Quill OS - quill

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel/blob/master/initrd/common/rcS-root#L292

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4:48 PM

it doesn't even create /tmp/ssh_session

4:48 PM

idk...

4:50 PM

actually it does

4:50 PM

yestarday it didn't

how to check if the poweroff sequence started?

poweroff sequence? You mean when it shuts down?

yes

5:33 PM

i want to fix a bug

I haven't created a way to know this, but you can see /sbin/poweroff and /sbin/prepare_shutdown

okay

5:34 PM

maybe /tmp/power_off_started with true in it?

5:40 PM

why does /etc/ssh/sshd_config not save beetwen boots?

5:47 PM

weird that service restart doesn't work, i need to reboot to apply changes

Szybet

why does /etc/ssh/sshd_config not save beetwen boots?

its not there in git

6:09 PM

w e i r d

kernel/rcS-root at master · Kobo-InkBox/kernel

Kernel sources for InkBox OS. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/kernel development by creating an account on GitHub.

9:42 PM

It's complicated

The kernel build in inkbox is complicated

What do you want It is what it is

tux-linux

What do you want It is what it is

me nothing, complicated doesn't mean bad

1

tux-linux

It's complicated

But I can add your SSH config for SFTP, shouldn't be a problem

9:46 PM

What was it again?

I will test it more and then give a pull request

1

Why did you move sleep_standby and wake_standby stop commands into poweroff and reboot files?

i clicked reboot but idle_sleep triggered when the brightness was going down, so it went sleep. it will now shut those services faster and prevent that

1

10:24 PM

a rare bug, but still possible

10:25 PM

+ the power button will not react when going to reboot

1

Will you accept my pull request?

7:37 PM

Szybet

I will test it more and then give a pull request

Did you not plan to do that?

Thats about sshfs

Szybet

Will you accept my pull request?

Im talking Here about sleeping fixes

ok, I'll test them before

i tested them and it works, but sure

Did you test with Wi-Fi reconnection, interrupt while reconnecting and all that mess?

not really, but i have been using it and didn't saw a problem doing various things

Szybet

i clicked reboot but idle_sleep triggered when the brightness was going down, so it went sleep. it will now shut those services faster and prevent that

It waits 15s before actually going to sleep So it would have had the time to power off (edited)

well, still the sleeping screen appears and then it goes poweroff

Every time?

i said its rare

5:38 PM

but still

Ok

maybe move the poweroff fbink command near the end

5:39 PM

or execute it 2 times

5:39 PM

there are many fixes for this

rm /dev/fb0

5:39 PM

That works too

oh, for example

5:39 PM

do it as you want

Might be better I'll see

8:38 PM

is this normal?

8:38 PM

its usb storage

Yes

8:39 PM

It's individual settings for each book

8:39 PM

Each folder name is the sha256sum of one of the books you opened

okay

8:51 PM

Polski_potop.epub

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8:51 PM

why

Epub is not following the standards I guess

i just exported an odt from libreoffice to epub

8:54 PM

:/

I thought that the problem with 1 of 0 pages was fixed

9:09 PM

well it isin't

10:08 PM

And what happened now...

Reboot

i looked up, some books dissapered, after canceling the file chooser this again happened

10:13 PM

and a folder A-Page-Number appered

10:15 PM

1 Reboot 2 file chooser 3 cancel 4 again this guy appears

10:15 PM

i cant really use the e-reader now

10:19 PM

UMS is read only

10:19 PM

wtf

Szybet

UMS is read only

Not my fault

Szybet

i looked up, some books dissapered, after canceling the file chooser this again happened

I know I tried to solve this problem but I didn't find a solution

10:25 PM

It goes away when you enable global reading settings

It would be funny if the SD card inside turned read only

tux-linux

I know I tried to solve this problem but I didn't find a solution

there is something really bad in your code happening

I know what it is I put the necessary fix But it doesn't work

do some checks if your fix actually worked?

10:30 PM

the usb storage i will need to debug later. scp worked

10:31 PM

why the QT file chooser doesn't like characters like ł ż ś ć... propably font issue?

Maybe

i hope i will learn qt faster and help

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10:33 PM

for now the experience learning it was something like that:

Clicking the file chooser and switching pdfs turned off the brightness, and restored it after cancel button

11:21 PM

Do you have a bug list? I think there are too many small problems to use github for it (edited)

tux-linux

It goes away when you enable global reading settings

It appears not so often, but still

Szybet

Do you have a bug list? I think there are too many small problems to use github for it (edited)

Use GitHub, document the issues well, with detailed information, and I'll close them when they get solved. I could host a "bugzilla", but then I'd have to disable GitHub issues, which I don't really want to.

Okay

@tux-linux Can i get permissions to assign labbels on github?, you wouldn't need to do that

and im just archiving those issues for later

Uhm, I need to provide you write access to the whole repository

well, your decision

11:00 PM

i dont think https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/issues/19 and https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/issues/21 are duplicates

they are triggered by the same issue so, yes

okay

#24, what are you talking about?

1 zoom in x times 2 switch page 3 the page isin't zoomed, but the slider is on position x (edited)

11:05 PM

Is that on purpuse? 1 switch system wide night mode to on 2 go to book 3 its white, i need to click the moon button

yes

11:06 PM

because maybe you read some book only at night and don't want the rest of your theme settings to be affected

true, but on the other hand it will burn someones eyes at 1 am

depends on which way you see it

Szybet

1 zoom in x times 2 switch page 3 the page isin't zoomed, but the slider is on position x (edited)

fixed

That was fast

1

11:35 PM

Is more fast flickering in dark mode normal?

yes

11:35 PM

eink i don't have control over that

tux-linux

eink i don't have control over that

In Qt, yes

dark mode is not handled by qt

11:46 PM

GitHub - gtalusan/kobo-nightmode: white-on-black mode for Kobo eboo...

white-on-black mode for Kobo ebook readers. Contribute to gtalusan/kobo-nightmode development by creating an account on GitHub.

It doesnt support kobo nia

11:54 PM

But if you say more flickering is normal for it, then okay

Well it is on my devices

Szybet

It doesnt support kobo nia

It probably just hasn't been updated

1:34 PM

1:35 PM

And this:

1:36 PM

Why? I cant repair this, reboots, shutdowns nothing

1:36 PM

The screen is... Shifted?

1:38 PM

1:39 PM

Here its ok, but too much space to the corner

Szybet

The screen is... Shifted?

The weird characters are taking up more space than they should I set a threshold for that but it seems weird characters bypass it Solution: open some new books with shorter file names

Szybet

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This should never happen

tux-linux

The weird characters are taking up more space than they should I set a threshold for that but it seems weird characters bypass it Solution: open some new books with shorter file names

Bruh...

tux-linux

This should never happen

Never is now

Szybet

Bruh...

Anyways, it doesn't restrict usability

Szybet

Never is now

But is it really a problem

3:58 PM

Maybe you didn't get the update when I fixed that

Maybe

I fixed a lot of issues

You can create a GUI bundle and i will check them

8:40 AM

It would be nice if you assign a"to check" label to the fixed issues on github

8:40 AM

Rootfs needs to be updated to?

8:40 AM

And what is the difference between GUI bundles, why are they device specific

Szybet

It would be nice if you assign a"to check" label to the fixed issues on github

I check them

Szybet

And what is the difference between GUI bundles, why are they device specific

Digital signatures

11:17 AM

I'll make it sometime in the morning if I have time

Szybet

Rootfs needs to be updated to?

Yeah

There is something wrong with inkbox GUI service

12:30 PM

I checked, ps doesn't showed inkbox process, maybe it crashed but the service did't restarted itself

12:30 PM

After restarting inkbox gui everything works fine

12:31 PM

The service didn't crashed when the process did, it was still 'started'

+ why there is python 3.9.2

tux-linux

Digital signatures

Other for every device? Why?

Szybet

+ why there is python 3.9.2

text file parsing

Szybet

The service didn't crashed when the process did, it was still 'started'

yeah sure, it's normal

1:44 PM

every other service that has something to do stops it before if needed

tux-linux

text file parsing

Just no...

i know that was the first thing I implemented march 2021 i was dumb in qt

1:46 PM

If you want to develop a better parsing engine, you're welcome

tux-linux

yeah sure, it's normal

No? The service could restart itself to avoid freezing the entire device and rebooting

tux-linux

If you want to develop a better parsing engine, you're welcome

I want many things to develop, for now I don't have much time

Well, yes, but this leads to problems e.g. if you start xorg, you stop inkbox_gui and it must not be started

This needs to be resolved in some way

1:48 PM

Another service that checks xorg and inkbox?

I will develop something like sickel for 2.0

1:49 PM

or maybe just add a while loop in /usr/bin/inkbox.sh that restarts inkbox-bin if the exit code is not 0

That's a option too

that would actually be really easy

1:54 PM

Can you test your rootfs PR one more time in all possible usecases and tell me if it's working properly? Then, I will merge it

I have been testing it for several days and no problems appeared

1:56 PM

There isn't much to break

For long time when trying to click the slider the word search something appeared, now I wanted to save some words, clicked a word and slided my finger below, the whole GUI freezed for good (edited)

2:24 PM

Irony

tux-linux

Can you test your rootfs PR one more time in all possible usecases and tell me if it's working properly? Then, I will merge it

tested, everything is fine

Now i see that cpu governor is not managed. i can add this, you should focus on qt side but i need to know which cpufreq governor to set. default is ondemand, for sleeping it should be powersave, i will add this. But in my experience interactive mode is better than ondemand. @tux-linux you decide and i will add it

8:38 PM

even koreader manages that: https://github.com/koreader/koreader/blob/ea3fa5c2c7ed7330e8e1e6ef838b780e7998ea51/platform/sony-prstux/suspend.sh

Szybet

Now i see that cpu governor is not managed. i can add this, you should focus on qt side but i need to know which cpufreq governor to set. default is ondemand, for sleeping it should be powersave, i will add this. But in my experience interactive mode is better than ondemand. @tux-linux you decide and i will add it

I guess that's a good idea

So interactive mode?

Well, first we need to know if if works well; IIRC, there were some issues on other devices about cpugovernor, would need @NiLuJe insight on this

9:40 PM

That's probably the reason why going to sleep would take more battery than Nickel

i changed to powersave and the device was slower (edited)

Szybet

Will you accept my pull request?

done

Hi everyone, I'm searching information about flashing inkbox into Kobo Libra H2O

8:00 PM

if someone had some information

I think its not done yet, the porting to it

9:05 PM

look at #porting at Kobo libra H20 tread

tux-linux

Well, first we need to know if if works well; IIRC, there were some issues on other devices about cpugovernor, would need @NiLuJe insight on this

Use interactive on devices that have it. i'ts tuned like ass, but it's better than the rest, and you can't tune it any better anyway since there's no matching support in the input driver (and it's also old)

1:10 AM

On older devices (those w/ dvfs), a tuned conservative can work somewhat decently, c.f., KOReader's startup script

1:10 AM

my TL;DR would be: don't bother, and keep the defaults. (I'm assuming boot defaults are nickel defaults, though. This may not actually hold). (edited)

1:10 AM

it's not going do any miracles, but it will ruin UI latency very easily (edited)

1:10 AM

Bad trade

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Where is the part in the source code when he prints on the screen "Inkbox ebook reader"?

It's a compiled file at /etc/init.d/splash.d/init_show. I lost the source code, but it was one of my first programs for Kobos and InkBox was originally going to be written in C with only FBInk as the library. I realized that it was almost impossible to do, so I decided to go the Qt way. The files in this directory are the remnants of what InkBox would have been with FBInk. You can try /etc/init.d/splash.d/init to get a glimpse of how it would have looked.

so i cant look at it and repair the cutted e in half

10:33 PM

well, i will write it in the future

Szybet

so i cant look at it and repair the cutted e in half

Uh?

Szybet

well, i will write it in the future

You can just script it, probably

tux-linux

Uh?

i showed it to you one time

if i change this file, do i need to compile the kernel to apply it?

11:42 PM

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel/blob/master/initrd/common/rcS-root#L292

11:47 PM

oh i need to provide the book here: https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/issues/25

11:47 PM

i will send it tommorow

Szybet

Where? I did not

12:23 AM

Szybet

if i change this file, do i need to compile the kernel to apply it?

of course

tux-linux

Where? I did not

When bootong kernel

tux-linux

of course

Then why it doesnt applied for me...

Szybet

When bootong kernel

are you using minicom?

Yes, but there was > at the end

yeah, minicom cuts end of lines and does not print the rest of them

6:34 AM

try with picocom/microcom

2048 works great, but maybe showing the score at game over screen could be nice

Reversi needs a bigger game button and removing the player name edits

Setting up the timezone with GUI ... It is possible but using the slider is not easy at start, it's not intuitive to use. Also setting the time after applying timezone... Maybe without a reboot?

After changing pages it always shows "you have reached the end"

10:06 AM

After this the page goes blank, the text disappears

10:06 AM

Completely not usable

10:08 AM

This was with global settings enabled,

10:12 AM

After I disabled it... Some of my books dissapered, in the file chooser appeared config directories, enabling global settings back freezed the device

10:16 AM

What the hell... What is global reading settings, it's so buggy and problematic

Epubs are not showing correctly, sometimes only 5 lines, no images

11:33 AM

Pdfs are fine

Szybet

After I disabled it... Some of my books dissapered, in the file chooser appeared config directories, enabling global settings back freezed the device

Maybe updating the GUI bundle caused this all?

11:40 AM

Maybe create a bug channel o discord, i dont know if its Worth it reporting those issues on github

How resseting the device caused error code 5

11:57 AM

Szybet

Setting up the timezone with GUI ... It is possible but using the slider is not easy at start, it's not intuitive to use. Also setting the time after applying timezone... Maybe without a reboot?

It should work right away

Szybet

How resseting the device caused error code 5

No recoveryfs yet

Szybet

Setting up the timezone with GUI ... It is possible but using the slider is not easy at start, it's not intuitive to use. Also setting the time after applying timezone... Maybe without a reboot?

You can drag your finger on the list, up and down, and it will scroll

Szybet

What the hell... What is global reading settings, it's so buggy and problematic

Well, normally it's something you enable/disable once and you leave there afterwards, so that was not part of my testing. Also, please don't be so harsh (edited)

Szybet

Maybe updating the GUI bundle caused this all?

If the update finished successfully, no

Szybet

After I disabled it... Some of my books dissapered, in the file chooser appeared config directories, enabling global settings back freezed the device

Clean your onboard storage mkfs.vfat /data/storage/onboard (edited)

12:46 PM

At this point, with you mangling between Nickel and InkBox on the same SD card, it might just be corruption due to flash wear

tux-linux

You can drag your finger on the list, up and down, and it will scroll

I needed a minute to figure it out, not intuitive

tux-linux

Well, normally it's something you enable/disable once and you leave there afterwards, so that was not part of my testing. Also, please don't be so harsh (edited)

Okay, sorry but its still this was sad

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1:06 PM

Also, there is no qr code and no sshfs support

1:06 PM

But I compiled a new kernel

1:06 PM

Weirddd

1:11 PM

Maybe with a rooted kernel, if a error code accours telnet over usb could be turned on?

1:11 PM

This should't be hard to implement

Szybet

Maybe with a rooted kernel, if a error code accours telnet over usb could be turned on?

Yes

When you open a book and flip through pages, does it refresh every time? And when you open the options menu, it refreshes when it has to refresh (e.g. each 3 pages)?

3:07 PM

I have this problem on my Kobos and can't find out why at all Even the debug output I wrote makes sense when it is run

tux-linux

When you open a book and flip through pages, does it refresh every time? And when you open the options menu, it refreshes when it has to refresh (e.g. each 3 pages)?

You mean the whole screen? (edited)

Szybet

You mean the whole screen? (edited)

That it turns white-black-white?

Yeah

@tux-linux maybe create a channel #dev too. i have some questions about developing qt for kobo

tux-linux

When you open a book and flip through pages, does it refresh every time? And when you open the options menu, it refreshes when it has to refresh (e.g. each 3 pages)?

Does it?

7:38 PM

Ok

7:38 PM

Done

well for now my kobo is bricked

7:39 PM

i will check... tommorow?

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You should really think of buying another SD card

no, the problem is now that i need to open the case

Not to worry, I think it affects all of them anyway, so no problem

i have to open it, i would really prefer not doing it many times. before I repair it i want to do the telnet thing when it crashes before

1

Sure, but actually, when it shows an error with a QR code, it shuts down after. So, maybe not so easy to implement

8:53 PM

Maybe I could get it to start usbnet on reboot if it failed before

start telnet wait 3 minutes check if telnet connection is on if not, shutdown its that easy

I have a better idea

9:15 PM

The thing first shuts down with the error code and writes to a flag Then it reboots, reads the flag and starts telnet without anything else On the next reboot the flag is unset and the device boot as normal, writes to the flag again if it can't boot and displays an error code

your decision

tux-linux

When you open a book and flip through pages, does it refresh every time? And when you open the options menu, it refreshes when it has to refresh (e.g. each 3 pages)?

I found that the culprit was the setEnabled calls in the next/previous buttons to prevent too fast page turning as you proposed. I assume Qt devs never have eInk in mind, but it triggers a repaint event, which results in the screen flashing. How awesome. @NiLuJe , @sherm_p , @pgaskin , if you have some time, is there a way to prevent an entire screen refresh when I setEnabled() true or false a QPushButton? Otherwise, I think I'll disable those because a screen refresh at each page turn is not a sane way to read a book... (edited)

Szybet

Click to see attachment 🖼️

You shut down the device via CLI Not the reboot button in InkBox right?

1:02 AM

When you click reboot in InkBox, the program terminates itself, and that prevents this issue

3:29 AM

Will start a telnet+ftp server on USBNet on 192.168.2.2 by default if it reboots from an error splash. The IP can be changed as usual with the USBNET_IP flag.

@Szybet BTW, I added a DFL flag, which will export the entire MMC over USB on boot without the need of pressing a key combination.

4:07 AM

Here's the commit: https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel/commit/0f1ebe0a60e3458d3eb187c8144960d3e08b3c40

Implement boot-time USB debug mode · Kobo-InkBox/kernel@0f1ebe0

tux-linux

It should work right away

Did you update the rootfs along that?

Szybet

2048 works great, but maybe showing the score at game over screen could be nice

done

4:47 AM

it was painful but hey, it works

4:50 AM

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/2048/commit/0f692fd6ca580d5a4f6a0360ce6618dbb9fae1ef

Show score in QGameOverWindow · Kobo-InkBox/2048@0f692fd

tux-linux

You shut down the device via CLI Not the reboot button in InkBox right?

Idk

tux-linux

@Szybet BTW, I added a DFL flag, which will export the entire MMC over USB on boot without the need of pressing a key combination.

Nice, do i need to write the boootloader for it?

tux-linux

Did you update the rootfs along that?

UM no

tux-linux

it was painful but hey, it works

Qt is painfull

Szybet

Nice, do i need to write the boootloader for it?

No, it's in the kernel/initrd It uses g_mass_storage

2:40 PM

Basically UMS mode but from Linux

So when exactly will it be enabled?

2:57 PM

On boot? So?

Yes Try it

well im trying it, one moment

7:01 PM

this is good

7:06 PM

I have updated the kernel and the rootfs, but there is still error 5

7:06 PM

i have previously launched reset device without the recovery partititon

You need to unset some flags

7:08 PM

DO_FACTORY_RESET or something

7:08 PM

Check boot flags docs

okay

7:08 PM

is it normal that there are no QR codes?

We will make the recoveryfs just before the release as it will contain the default system image

on the screen

7:09 PM

okay

Szybet

is it normal that there are no QR codes?

No

7:09 PM

Does it happen all the time?

no qr codes at all

Never

7:09 PM

?

never

You did update the kernel?

i will check if the sshd config writed, if not there is a problem with the sc card and writing to it

tux-linux

You did update the kernel?

yes

It's because the pr hasn't been merged yet

but for sshd i edited the files for my own

What's the latest commit in your kernel repo?

commit 752ca0df22b8bc379d64873d9491ea69d4df2761 (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD)
Author: Oliwer <53944559+Szybet@users.noreply.github.com>
Date:   Mon Mar 28 23:16:41 2022 +0200

    sshfs support

commit a6582731a1c23e776fd385616e7ac74fb8d70c9a
Author: Oliwer <53944559+Szybet@users.noreply.github.com>
Date:   Mon Mar 28 23:11:04 2022 +0200

    small kernel fix

commit de78cd8474a9ae14b1a285d0d7396496c68f0c37
Author: Oliwer <53944559+Szybet@users.noreply.github.com>
Date:   Mon Mar 28 23:06:49 2022 +0200

    touchscreen fix

commit 0f1ebe0a60e3458d3eb187c8144960d3e08b3c40 (upstream/master)
Author: Nicolas Mailloux <nicolecrivain@gmail.com>
Date:   Tue Mar 29 22:05:28 2022 -0400

    Implement boot-time USB debug mode

7:13 PM

its my fork repo, but i merged the changes with upstream

You aren't using the right repo

7:13 PM

I pushed new commits

7:14 PM

Clone the repo in another folder

what? i have all your commits

Or temporarily move this folder

Szybet

what? i have all your commits

Oh

commit 224c0f07157f9089da0b4693d29a4d2e94d6a01c
Author: Nicolas Mailloux <nicolecrivain@gmail.com>
Date:   Sun Mar 27 16:33:49 2022 -0400

    inkbox-splash: Display QR code when a boot-time issue happens

commit 4ca43ae1f17846f16722db835ffe370638eb9d5a
Author: Nicolas Mailloux <nicolecrivain@gmail.com>
Date:   Sun Mar 27 14:41:39 2022 -0400

    Add qr-to-png

they are here

What are the contents of /etc/init.d/inkbox-splash in initrd? (Access via telnet)

what telnet?

7:16 PM

from where

tux-linux

Yes Try it

IDK nothing appears on my pc

Szybet

what telnet?

Initrd debug flag

tux-linux

Initrd debug flag

oh okay, im now in ssh

7:20 PM

so when does the full sd as ums appears? on boot its nothing

Does a DFL splash appear?

kobo:~# ls /etc/init.d/inkbox-splash
ls: /etc/init.d/inkbox-splash: No such file or directory

(edited)

tux-linux

Does a DFL splash appear?

no, it boots to the gui

Wrong kernel

there is also no sshfs in sshd_config (edited)

Contents of /boot/flags/BOOT_USB_DEBUG

Szybet

kobo:~# ls /etc/init.d/inkbox-splash
ls: /etc/init.d/inkbox-splash: No such file or directory

(edited)

Yes

tux-linux

Contents of /boot/flags/BOOT_USB_DEBUG

no file

7:22 PM

the kernel didn't writed...

7:22 PM

why. how

And /boot/flags/DFL

kobo:~# ls /boot/flags/
USBNET_ENABLE  USBNET_IP      X11_START      X11_STARTED

7:23 PM

the kernel didn't write...

You need to set a flag to enable dfl

one sec

I told you It's in the wiki (edited)

tux-linux

I told you It's in the wiki (edited)

now i see it

7:24 PM

what if i write both flags?

7:24 PM

will telnet launch or ums?

IIRC dfl will take precedence

7:26 PM

Still strange that no QR appears

tux-linux

Still strange that no QR appears

becouse the kernel didn't update

7:27 PM

its old

Ok you're sure of that?

7:27 PM

Then dfl won't work until you update it

7:28 PM

/Recompile it

well, if the kernel didn't writed DFL flag will not work too...

tux-linux

Then dfl won't work until you update it

.

the kernel does write

7:47 PM

Linux kobo 4.1.15szybettest #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Mar 30 19:38:46 CEST 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux

7:47 PM

but no changes to sshd

tux-linux

What are the contents of /etc/init.d/inkbox-splash in initrd? (Access via telnet)

via telnet hmm...

ucho_-_narzad_zmyslu_sluchu_i_rownowagi_-_16_02_2022_-_str.pdf

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8:07 PM

it is there, its updated

8:09 PM

or not?

8:09 PM

no print_qr

8:10 PM

BUT IT IS IN THE KERNEL REPO

8:10 PM

whyyyyyy ._.

The kernel didn't update

8:23 PM

Idk

i have built the kernel with your repo, not it has a bigger size

Try from a clean repo

i will

8:24 PM

what the hell, git

8:24 PM

:(

8:27 PM

the kernel is already 10M

Make device nodes

I did

8:33 PM

now my repo is working

8:33 PM

i hate computer problems that are solved, and i dont know what was wrong

8:35 PM

oh

8:35 PM

your commit dissapered

8:35 PM

8:36 PM

um did i messed this up

ImageMagick-7/        fish/                 issue                 network/              rc.conf               terminfo/
acpi/                 fonts/                lbu/                  ntp.conf              resolv.conf           udev/
alpine-release        fstab                 libnl/                opt/                  rsyncd.conf           udhcpd.conf
apk/                  fuse.conf             local.d/              os-release            runlevels/            usb_modeswitch.conf
ca-certificates.conf  group                 localtime             pango/                securetty             usb_modeswitch.d/
ca-certificates/      group-                logrotate.d/          passwd                securetty.apk-new     usb_modeswitch.setup
chrony/               hostname              mdev.conf             passwd-               services              vim/
conf.d/               hosts                 mke2fs.conf           periodic/             shadow                wgetrc
crontabs/             images/               modprobe.d/           pkcs11/               shadow-               wpa_supplicant/
dbus-1/               init.d/               modules               ppp/                  shells
dhclient-script       inittab               modules-load.d/       profile               ssh/
dhcp/                 inputrc               motd                  profile.d/            ssl/
dhcpcd.conf           iproute2/             mtab                  protocols             sysctl.conf
e2scrub.conf          iptables/             nanorc                radiusclient/         sysctl.d/

why are here so many files?...

It's the rootfs?...

Szybet

um did i messed this up

Yes, congrats (edited)

tux-linux

It's the rootfs?...

in /etc? so many config files?

tux-linux

Yes, congrats (edited)

how

Installed by default

Szybet

how

I don't know, but my commit disappeared

i pushed some changes to my repo

8:57 PM

and it deleted your commit?

tux-linux

Installed by default

okay, i didn't see them before

Why does the sshfs thing dont update

9:07 PM

updating the kernel doesn't affect it

Szybet

and it deleted your commit?

Yes

Szybet

Why does the sshfs thing dont update

Contents of config file?

tux-linux

Yes

why is it like that? i cant update my repo without affecting a old pull request?

tux-linux

Contents of config file?

Rcs-root

9:15 PM

so the sshd_config file, yes (edited)

9:19 PM

my repo is broken

9:19 PM

simply broken

9:19 PM

and your commit doesn't work

9:20 PM

~ # cat /tmp/sshd_config 
PermitRootLogin yes\nSubsystem sftp internal-sftp\n# If sshfs doesn't work, first enable read-write support, then begin a connection with sshfs

9:21 PM

maybe leave it as i wanted? its cleaner code, and one echo and 3 won't give a much diffrence in speed

No it should work

it doesn't

What's the contents of rcs root on your device?

the part you are interested in is:

echo "PermitRootLogin yes\nSubsystem sftp internal-sftp\n# If sshfs doesn't work, first enable read-write support, then begin a connection with sshfs" >> /tmp/sshd_config

Oh I forgot -e after echo

yes

Is it bind-mounted correctly though?

yes

ok, I'll change it

11:17 PM

if i can find out how with your repo

idk what happened there

11:18 PM

this forked repo is a mess

maybe i can make the changes on my own and credit you in the commit

sure

1

This is alright?

git.diff

3.54 KB

if its the same as in my commits the yes

11:45 PM

maybe you could remove the \n in internal-sftp\n# If sshfs

11:45 PM

but its only what you prefer (edited)

i prefer to keep it like that

11:52 PM

will commit now

11:52 PM

thanks

11:56 PM

done

11:56 PM

you can check if it works with a clean git tree

tommorow

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Any last minute fix to add to InkBox before releasing 1.9?

fonts pls

11:01 PM

and one of these 3 pdf, i dont remember for 100% had problems with scrollbard (edited)

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narzad_smaku_oraz_wechu_-_23_02_2022_-_str.pdf

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budowa_i_rola_ukladu_hormonalnego_-_09_03_2022_-_str.pdf

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1

if you wait to the end of the weekend i will have an pre-release of sanki ready

Szybet

fonts pls

Aren't there enough?

Szybet

if you wait to the end of the weekend i will have an pre-release of sanki ready

Pre release won't be in the release

i mean, Ż Ź Ó Ą Ę

Oh I searched for that, there doesn't seem to be an obvious fix, besides, it seems to happen randomly, sometimes the characters show up properly

no, they never

They seem to be in the font

yes

11:44 PM

the question is: 1 does the system show them correctly at low level 2 does qt filechooser use these fonts

Szybet

the question is: 1 does the system show them correctly at low level 2 does qt filechooser use these fonts

1 idk 2 yes

maybe its using system fonts, and they don't have those characters

no, it's definitely using the U001 font

maybe just install some alpine system fonts?

what difference would it do

idk, this needs more debugging info

8:35 PM

is this really needed?

8:35 PM

sleep 10

Yes

why

Because Kernel bug

8:57 PM

Try it without and you'll see

well okay

8:58 PM

maybe adding sync before this is needed? plato had similar issues too

No it is not related

ERROR: font-noto-extra-0_git20170920-r0: No space left on device

6:26 PM

how do i make it bigger :/

you used the entire 66M available on the partition?

6:27 PM

well, there is no way

tux-linux

you used the entire 66M available on the partition?

i have installed powertop... i2c tools... idk what more

font-noto-extra is a very big package iirc

tux-linux

well, there is no way

common

well, there is no way

6:30 PM

unless you throw them directly in the compressed archive but that is probably not an ideal solution

is it the size of the p3 limiting it?

yes

and the reasons why i cant expand it are?

why do you want to install this package anyway?

i want fonts in file chooser to work

6:32 PM

or just test it

it won't change if you put them in the rootfs

6:32 PM

Qt fonts dir is /kobo/mnt/onboard/.adds/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib/fonts

Szybet

and the reasons why i cant expand it are?

60% of existing supported devices have this partition layout and an update to it would require an entire SD reflash

for me, for testing purpuses

well, you don't need it now because it isn't the place where you should put the fonts

now

tux-linux

Qt fonts dir is /kobo/mnt/onboard/.adds/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib/fonts

unsquashfs -d gui-bundle update.isa
unsquashfs -d gui-bundle/qt gui-bundle/qt.isa
cp <fonts> gui-bundle/qt/lib/fonts
pushd gui-bundle/qt && rm ../qt.isa* && mksquashfs . ../qt.isa -b 1048576 -comp xz -Xdict-size 100% -always-use-fragments && popd
openssl dgst -sha256 -sign private.pem -out gui-bundle/qt.isa.dgst gui-bundle/qt.isa
pushd gui-bundle/ && rm -rf qt/ && rm ../update.isa && mksquashfs . ../update.isa -b 1048576 -comp xz -Xdict-size 100% -always-use-fragments

6:38 PM

maybe you should also remove existing fonts in lib/fonts to give you more luck

Szybet

for me, for testing purpuses

you can expand it, but it wouldn't do real good to your SD card

tux-linux

you can expand it, but it wouldn't do real good to your SD card

i know

6:40 PM

do you have something like this?

6:40 PM

what font do you set

yes

6:44 PM

u001

6:44 PM

example https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/blob/dc93feed17cf86d062f78bc6235834046118d387/mainwindow.cpp#L31

weird ;_;

?

this makes no sense

what exactly?

... you there?

um yes

tux-linux

what exactly?

the font thing, i gived up

ok

propably writing a replacemant for file chooser would be easier than debugging this

yeah

8:36 PM

I updated the gui bundle if you want to have the latest bugfixes/features

8:37 PM

I added special characters when pressing shift in the virtual keyboard

nice, i will update it soon

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And it will remove Wi-Fi modules if you click "Cancel" instead of "Connect" in the Wi-Fi dialog

8:40 PM

Would there be other things to do before 1.9 release?

scroll bars

yeah ok

and thats propably it

excluding that?

8:41 PM

ok

8:44 PM

whoops https://stackoverflow.com/a/42653053/14164574

QScrollBar stylesheet resize handle

I need to style some scrollbars as in the image: After much pain and experimentation, I found how to make the gradient, and hide the arrows. m_scrollBarStyleSheet = "QScrollBar:horizontal { \n " ...

8:45 PM

we were thinking that it was qsliders

8:45 PM

but actually they are qscrollbars

8:46 PM

yuo are using sliders everywhere right?

wait there are settings in the stylesheet for the handle of a qscrollbar though i don't know if they actually work

Szybet

yuo are using sliders everywhere right?

qscrollbars

8:46 PM

except for brightness slider in mainwindow/brightnessdialog (edited)

hmm... but maybe doing this would be possible?

8:48 PM

this would help for... everything exept brightness dialog

actually it works

8:49 PM

the black thing is the scroll bar

oh thats good

8:50 PM

it will not look like that, right?

no

8:50 PM

i set it to 300px to test it

8:50 PM

but i wonder how it will look on devices with a smaller screen resolution

also for: https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/issues/22 will changing the margin solve the issue?

probably too big

8:51 PM

Yes but that would make the home button impossible to click

maybe add this to settings? a bit overkill but everyone has diffrent sized fingers

tux-linux

Yes but that would make the home button impossible to click

which one

the one close to the info button

change the margin only for the pdf, not the menu

8:52 PM

do this dynamically

8:52 PM

the exit button could be bigger anyway

Szybet

change the margin only for the pdf, not the menu

the thing is that the pdf is in the main grid layout and the menu too

you can't change the margins after showing the layout?

the layout encloses menu + graphicsView which contains the PDF page image (edited)

i knwo, but change the margins dynamically?

it wouldn't work

maybe... change the margins lower but add additional margins for the menu

8:55 PM

with a frame for example?

i'm not sure I follow you

add more margins to this but remove them from "reader"

every time i change something in the reader class layout a mess happens

8:59 PM

but maybe I can set a slightly lower margin to give pdfs more space while not stretching the ui too much

tux-linux

every time i change something in the reader class layout a mess happens

why would this do anything

tux-linux

but maybe I can set a slightly lower margin to give pdfs more space while not stretching the ui too much

no no no the home button its already too hard to click

actually it wasn't a good idea (edited)

Szybet

why would this do anything

there is no reason it will just do something

Szybet

add more margins to this but remove them from "reader"

if you understand what im saying, could you try this?

9:02 PM

i hope it will not do something

9:02 PM

and it will work

tux-linux

actually it wasn't a good idea (edited)

also that's what the margin would look like on the nia a bit too much right?

idk, you need to find a solution for all devices

Szybet

if you understand what im saying, could you try this?

can you do it and send me the .ui file?

um okay

9:07 PM

something like this?

42.7 KB

nope

what nope

9:12 PM

what is not working

well this is a screenshot

9:13 PM

there are huge margins in the pdf and on top of that the ui is almost going out of the bounds of the screen

is there any change?

compare with normal screenshot

is the pdf still cutted out?

9:14 PM

or less

less

9:15 PM

but the ui is unusable

than wait

9:15 PM

i will do it more

9:15 PM

i only changed half of it

9:18 PM

42.89 KB

9:18 PM

this is a bit too much i think

9:18 PM

but its for testing

9:20 PM

becouse its too near the border?

9:20 PM

and what about the pdf?

yes

9:21 PM

seems to be worse

? how

compare with other screenshots

9:22 PM

wait i took the wrong screenshot

why is one margin affecting other objects...

9:22 PM

?

is it better or worse

better

9:23 PM

well, not the ui

and the pdf?

better

9:23 PM

but the scrollbars are unusable even if I scale them up it will be ugly

why is this even affecting scroll bars?

because they are part of QTextEdit and QGraphicsView

did the scroll bars get smaller?

unrelated I'm playing around with the stylesheet

if you want to try more this idea you can go to page_20 and gridLayout_7 to edit the margin even more

1

the scrollbars are fine?

9:47 PM

That's on 600x800 devices (edited)

tux-linux

the scrollbars are fine?

idk, testing is needed

ok, even more bugfixes I updated the GUI bundle again

11:09 PM

Increased scrollbar size by 5px but it's all I can do for now It seems it will be a complete mess to change all of this

Goal of the day: get scrollbars working then freeze commits for 1.9 release and start working on factory images and update packages

Ale factory images available with root kernel? ( security not enforced )

Nope

2:47 PM

It is fairly easy to root one though

2:48 PM

The official version being that you get in the recoveryfs and you reset as root

2:51 PM

Yesterday I started to design a way to create reproducible image builds, but I gave up, maybe I'll have some success today

You need to make a script for this, its too much work by hand

does inkbox support rotating?

No and it will not Too complicated

i dont think so, but maybe only 180 degrees?

9:48 PM

180* degrees?

Idk

does only the kobo nia use the hal sensor for sleep? only it uses the F1 number?

I think all devices do use KEY_F1

There's now a logger active when the DEBUG=1 env var is set. Will make it easier to debug in the future...

Finally

Well, I'll need to put log calls in the app, but the base is there

I *think* I'm going to freeze the current commits for 1.9 release

Awesome, wake on touch also affects the Glo

10:40 PM

I'm desperate

10:40 PM

Whenever I want to release something a thousand of painful bugs appear

Its fixable

I want to believe you but I can't

We will see

https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/943711473341960253/952640370867585045 @NiLuJe : I got as close as this and it worked (so, probably not kernel-related, as you said; the Nia is a strange exception) Only because I was running it from a shell (and it executes the exact same commands as if it had been launched by OpenRC). Is there a common name for this problem? Nonsense™? (edited)

Hm?

This was discussed in #chat

And i dont understand this part here

11:11 PM

How do i save words?

Double click the word and click on the star

11:11 PM

(when you're reading)

Then its not working

Why

Wait, i xan only save words?

You can also unsave them by clicking on the star again

I tryied staring sentences, and nothing

11:15 PM

Now checked, words too. Nothing

11:15 PM

This needs improvements

11:15 PM

But the text selecting mechanism is not bad

Szybet

I tryied staring sentences, and nothing

It's saved words

Pretty good, maybe adding arrows like in koreader and then it's the best

tux-linux

It's saved words

Then it's useless a bit

11:16 PM

But there are no words in saved words app

Szybet

Then it's useless a bit

Nickel has the same thing

Then nickel is useless too

Szybet

But there are no words in saved words app

ls /data/config ?

11:18 PM

No

tux-linux

ls /data/config ?

I don't have a ssh or anything now

ls /opt/config

Usbnet on Android phone?

Ok

11:18 PM

SSH on wifi?

11:18 PM

Install termux

11:20 PM

Or open kterm

tux-linux

Or open kterm

No xorg on nia

Szybet

Click to see attachment 🖼️

That's because the signal is low I thing. Or there are repetiers. But on Android phone

Maybe you can set up a hotspot

11:23 PM

And this. Dark mode didn't disabled itself after exciting the book and there are flickers and screen bugs everywhere

Dark mode is not stable on new devices

tux-linux

Maybe you can set up a hotspot

I would need another device. I will do it on weekend

Your phone

tux-linux

Dark mode is not stable on new devices

Maybe darkmode could be handled by qt?

No

11:24 PM

Too hard

tux-linux

Dark mode is not stable on new devices

Can I help improve it?

Maybe

11:26 PM

GitHub - gtalusan/kobo-nightmode: white-on-black mode for Kobo eboo...

white-on-black mode for Kobo ebook readers. Contribute to gtalusan/kobo-nightmode development by creating an account on GitHub.

Szybet

This needs improvements

Maybe 2.0?

You're on your own

11:33 PM

I will have enough issues with powerd, file chooser, redesign, etc.

Powerd?

tux-linux

GUI: Increase QSlider size for some devices · Kobo-InkBox/rootfs@dd...

There is no issue label...

Reimplantation of the sleep wake framework in C++ I want to do

11:38 PM

It's a fork

Why

You didn't read what NiLuJe said in #chat

I read

11:38 PM

And, what?

11:39 PM

Dealing with the kernel and event codes works much better in C/C++

11:40 PM

I will probably take ideas from your implementation too

tux-linux

I will probably take ideas from your implementation too

You need to. Your is sloww

tux-linux

Dealing with the kernel and event codes works much better in C/C++

But the result is the same

You really found that fun to understand?

tux-linux

Click to see attachment 🖼️

In short, "it looks bad" and?

tux-linux

You really found that fun to understand?

You mean?

Szybet

In short, "it looks bad" and?

It's just not a mentally sane way to handle that kind of things

11:42 PM

It's a nightmare to debug and a real learning curve, probably harder than C/C++, for someone to actually understand it completely

tux-linux

It's just not a mentally sane way to handle that kind of things

Well okay

Szybet

You need to. Your is sloww

Yours is fast because the Nia doesn't need the 10s delay before actually going to sleep Other devices do

No. Kt goes to sleep still after 10s

Then why do you say it's fast?

It's faster because the manager don't need to wait for something to finish. ( why I would need to finish connecting to wifi when I want to go to sleep ). It kills it and starts going to sleep

11:45 PM

It's the same way around, it kills the sleep script and starts the after script

11:45 PM

Also some improvements in order

11:45 PM

Do it properly, so I don't need to redesign it

That does not mean I will accept your changes ;p

11:47 PM

i'll see

11:49 PM

tonight I'll make the final touches and release 1.9

tux-linux

That does not mean I will accept your changes ;p

If you do it the old way I will not be happy. The user input should be always handled, no matter what

Well, that was already planned

How will you handle building the roots then?

?

How will you build the rrotfs, you need to compile a bin file before

The bin will probably be included and I'll update it when needed

12:01 AM

Like 2048 in gui-bundle

12:01 AM

or qreversi

12:01 AM

I'll provide the source code on another repo

Saved words work for me

At least those special characters show up fine in Reader (edited)

2:23 AM

And it's the same font ... strange

Logging is getting along quite well!

06/04/2022 @ 22:44:02 | main: Running on device n705

06/04/2022 @ 22:44:03 | MainWindow: Checking for available updates ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:03 | MainWindow: checkForUpdate: No update available.
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:04 | MainWindow: Showing USB Mass Storage dialog ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:20 | MainWindow: Opening Settings Chooser widget ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:23 | settingsChooser: Launching KoBox Settings ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:26 | settingsChooser: Launching InkBox Settings ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:27 | functions: defineDefaultPageSize: Defined default ePUB page height to 365
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:27 | functions: defineDefaultPageSize: Defined default ePUB page width to 365
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:27 | functions: defineDefaultPageSizeDefined default PDF page height to 750
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:27 | functions: defineDefaultPageSizeDefined default PDF page width to 550

06/04/2022 @ 22:44:30 | main: Running on device n705

06/04/2022 @ 22:44:31 | MainWindow: Checking for available updates ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:31 | MainWindow: checkForUpdate: No update available.
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:32 | MainWindow: Showing USB Mass Storage dialog ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:41 | MainWindow: Launching Reader Framework ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:41 | reader: Opening file '/mnt/onboard/onboard/67550.epub'
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:41 | functions: defineDefaultPageSize: Defined default ePUB page height to 365
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:41 | functions: defineDefaultPageSize: Defined default ePUB page width to 365
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:42 | functions: Finding ePUB metadata ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:42 | functions: findEpubMetadata: ePUB metadata is: Bertrand W. Sinclair

06/04/2022 @ 22:44:42 | functions: Finding ePUB metadata ...
06/04/2022 @ 22:44:42 | functions: findEpubMetadata: ePUB metadata is: Troubled Waters

(edited)

6:42 PM

Mhm, after 2 days od reading one book

6:42 PM

Now the book exited, i clicked it and its working

6:42 PM

Now I can't close the option button

6:43 PM

Now it's 0 pages again

6:43 PM

6:46 PM

well

6:48 PM

After rebooting its fine

6:48 PM

But still

How do you reboot ?

I managed to go to the menu and revoot button

11:49 PM

Reset inkbox did nothing

it's probably because of the dark mode

QSliders are done https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/rootfs/commit/dd5f8bbe1a4b4f9ae0f32f5d842a26b35de268ba

You just need to update the rootfs

When you reboot, does the timezone work properly or you have to connect it to the Wi-Fi for it to show the right time?

Maybe they work, idk. The time is always incorrect

7:24 AM

Wrll, after NTP yes but it decalibrate quickly

7:24 AM

IW theree a Fox for that?

decalibrates? that's a hardware issue it would mean that even the hardware clock is crap

1:41 PM

nice

1:41 PM

if it works after ntp at least the base is working

The Nia's clock drifts extremely severely during suspend, yeah.

1:48 PM

Doing a simple hctosys on resume is mandatory on it

1

NiLuJe

The Nia's clock drifts extremely severely during suspend, yeah.

@tux-linux you are not doing it right? (edited)

NiLuJe

The Nia's clock drifts extremely severely during suspend, yeah.

Is it becouse the chip is crap? Or power issue?

Hmm im building a module with audio through USB, maybe adding a small CPU that would send it using serial and a good rtc module would be good (edited)

1:59 PM

U-Boot would not work with a serial USB adapter right? There would be no access becouse it uses low level CPU pins?

You can't access U-Boot once the kernel has started AFAIK At least, that's how it is on sunxi devices

Szybet

@tux-linux you are not doing it right? (edited)

I'll add it

NiLuJe

Doing a simple hctosys on resume is mandatory on it

So the hardware clock is ok, it's only the system one?

tux-linux

You can't access U-Boot once the kernel has started AFAIK At least, that's how it is on sunxi devices

U-Boot is helpfull only when the kernel doesn't

2:50 PM

And it is for me frequent

Are the sliders ok?

haven't tested yet, tommorow

9:45 PM

i have read an entire book using inkbox, the only major problem was the one that needed rebooting

9:50 PM

the second inconvenience was that all sides needed sliding for 1-2 lines. can't be there showed the entire page of the book ( in epubs ) its just more text, it won't cause major performance problems

1

It's strange, I also get the font issues on my Glo HD but not on the emulator

9:52 PM

Can't understand why

Szybet

the second inconvenience was that all sides needed sliding for 1-2 lines. can't be there showed the entire page of the book ( in epubs ) its just more text, it won't cause major performance problems

can you do it?

tux-linux

It's strange, I also get the font issues on my Glo HD but not on the emulator

um...

Szybet

can you do it?

Have you tried to reduce Epub page size?

what?

9:55 PM

this will not fix the problem

Yes it will

why...

9:56 PM

so to what walue do i set it?

Try...?

9:56 PM

Lower

now it uses half the screen

9:57 PM

just no

9:57 PM

it will not work

9:58 PM

it will be never perfect using this

Have you tried to set only height or only width?

both to 300

Szybet

it will be never perfect using this

It is difficult to have a perfect fit because the user can choose fonts

+ the font is smaller

Which change the text, this the page, size

Szybet

+ the font is smaller

That is impossible

tux-linux

It is difficult to have a perfect fit because the user can choose fonts

it will be if you won't cut pages to smaller pages. its just stupid for the most part

9:59 PM

just show the entire page

10:00 PM

5Kb of more text won't kill performance

How? Will just be more scrolling to do

but this scrolling will make sense

Szybet

just show the entire page

There's no entire page

10:01 PM

If you want that just increase the size in Settings

+ this will be the best way to mark lines of text in the future. koreader has problems with that

tux-linux

There's no entire page

then we need to find a way that scrolling 2 lines won't be needed

10:02 PM

for all configurations

But then you have to split bigger pages into smaller pages And insert missing text in the next page Change page numbers Keep in mind that fonts are different This will be a nightmare

10:04 PM

Also the auto save page thing will be messed up

But then you have to split bigger pages into smaller pages

you are already doing this

And insert missing text in the next page

its better then scrolling

Change page numbers

how are pages calculated in epubs?

Keep in mind that fonts are different

yes

This will be a nightmare

yes. do we have another way?

Also the auto save page thing will be messed up

it already is

10:14 PM

i will try to make a small qt app demo

10:14 PM

with it

10:14 PM

but after sanki is released

Szybet

But then you have to split bigger pages into smaller pages

you are already doing this

And insert missing text in the next page

its better then scrolling

Change page numbers

how are pages calculated in epubs?

Keep in mind that fonts are different

yes

This will be a nightmare

yes. do we have another way?

Also the auto save page thing will be messed up

it already is

Use qtextdocument with the full book XHTML At the time I tried it it was incredibly complicated and a nightmare to understand But in theory it should break the ePUB into pages adapting on the screen size

10:37 PM

Honestly I am not sure it is the right way either

qtextdocument? i though its qtextedit

It is currently

oh okay

But I'm not even sure it would work actually

tomorrow I'll work on imgtool and hopefully we'll have reproducible images soon ready for release

11:22 PM

I think everything is done/ready for 1.9 (edited)

11:23 PM

As for the timezone stuff, I don't have an idea about what's going on, but at least what I set up works since NTP syncs fine

Dis you try what niluje said? (edited)

oh yeah; i need to do it too

11:28 PM

i forgot that

Szybet

Dis you try what niluje said? (edited)

it's not related to the timezone though

Does it improve time accuracy to a good level? (edited)

I'll test it today But I haven't got devices that drift during sleep AFAIK

Nia is shifting even in nickel

whoops

Yeah, George mentioned that Nickel had been doing an hctosys on resume since basically forever because of similar issues (possibly on very very old devices, though ;p The Nia is the only "recent" device affected, AFAIK).

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@Szybet did you test the sliders? (edited)

i will do it in max 4 hours today from now

1

I'll continue working on imgtool from my side

tux-linux

QSliders are done https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/rootfs/commit/dd5f8bbe1a4b4f9ae0f32f5d842a26b35de268ba

better, but not perfect

11:28 PM

almost perfect

ok

Maybe make that the slider jumps per 2%, then it will be longer in horizontal orientation?

what do you mean? (edited)

In the slider, the thing you slide ( the black one ) is to small in horizontal orientation (its maybe widthh?). Its becouse its 100 numbers and percantage grom that. Doing it in half would make the slide thing bigger. Or maybe there is a Vetter solution

3:48 PM

Adding like 5 pixels to it would solve the issue

imgtool is online; still a big WIP this is complicated https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/imgtool/blob/main/release.bash (edited)

imgtool/release.bash at main · Kobo-InkBox/imgtool

Reproducible image builder for InkBox OS. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/imgtool development by creating an account on GitHub.

PKGS_BASE_URL="http://23.163.0.39"

6:34 AM

Is this your private server?

tux-linux

imgtool is online; still a big WIP this is complicated https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/imgtool/blob/main/release.bash (edited)

Could be worse

Szybet

Is this your private server?

It's @fermino 's one He permits me to put InkBox packages there, which is really cool

Idk about the security of it

11:18 AM

And speed isin't perfect too

11:18 AM

Could't githuv be used for that?

Szybet

Idk about the security of it

why does it matter?

Szybet

Could't githuv be used for that?

No, GH file size limit is 80M Otherwise, you have to pay for LFS (edited)

tux-linux

why does it matter?

IF you focus on security in inkbox that much then maybe this server too

tux-linux

No, GH file size limit is 80M Otherwise, you have to pay for LFS (edited)

Hm okay

Szybet

IF you focus on security in inkbox that much then maybe this server too

It's only for download So like, what's the point of using https

8:49 PM

The main website is in https

the only risk is for replacing the files in there

And how would https help?

where did i say anything about https, no, maybe md5sums on github?

sha256sums could be a good idea Maybe on the website

no... whats the point if giving sums on the same website. if someone replaces the files then whats the problem with replacing the sums

No, I mean the main website

8:51 PM

On the downloads page

Szybet

no... whats the point if giving sums on the same website. if someone replaces the files then whats the problem with replacing the sums

i think linux mint had a breach like that before

GitHub - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox.ddns.net: InkBox Project official websi...

8:52 PM

There

tux-linux

No, I mean the main website

its still the same server?

No

8:52 PM

It's also versioned on GitHub

well, good

8:52 PM

but i would still prever sums on github too (edited)

They will be on GitHub

8:53 PM

The source is there https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox.ddns.net

InkBox Project official website source. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/inkbox.ddns.net development by creating an account on GitHub.

8:53 PM

Server pulls from there every minute

is it normal that in sleep the battery is degrading like 70% in 2/3 days?

8:54 PM

i think on nickel it was similar

Maybe cpugovernor thing

oh yea, i set cpufreq to another thing

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8:58 PM

oh to this: i have another idea for it: a deep sleep button in the menu. it would apply powersave for the cpu, unload all modules ( usb things eat up battery too ), disable some services like sshd. it would improve battery life

8:59 PM

it would stand up from sleep more ( its a thing for cpugovernor powersave ) but if i know i would't use the reader for 2 days i would use it

@tux-linux so you simply want to rewrite the current sleep scripts into cpp or something more?

Basically that, yes

so i want to write it

What if I want to?

then you write it, and i edit it later for my weird case

Ok

8:26 PM

Maybe explain it and I'll try to include it the code already

soo can i redesign it for the kobo nia as a setting option that it will:
- its sleeping
- value 0 detected
- value 1 ( its on the back )
- value 0 detected
- value 1 detected, the sleep cover is back on the top go to sleep now

this software mod is the only thing i can think of that would work

@tux-linux here is a problem with the Kobo Touch N905C, @NonaSuomy doesn't have the wifi button

also, could you create a problems / bugs / help channel here on discord tux-linux?

4:54 PM

@NonaSuomy which version of inkbox do you have

Maybe I have to update from the 1.5 to 1.8

Szybet

@NonaSuomy which version of inkbox do you have

1.5

its really old, update it to be sure

4:55 PM

newer version have also better user experience

Does inkbox support cbz/cbr?

i dont think so, but it could in the future, maybe you could convert them to pdfs?

It’s just nice having the direct support for the formats so you can download them direct from libgen.gs without a computer involved.

5:09 PM

Have you tried to make any apps or other things for inkbox?

NonaSuomy

It’s just nice having the direct support for the formats so you can download them direct from libgen.gs without a computer involved.

yes, sure. we will add it to the list to add

NonaSuomy

Have you tried to make any apps or other things for inkbox?

yes, im writing sanki for inkbox right now https://github.com/Szybet/sanki most of the part is just writing a regular qt app, so its pretty easy. you can go with full bare metal fbink too

5:11 PM

inkbox is the best for it, writing apps for plato, koreader or nickel is harder and not so good appearing

Is Anki an E reader app?

no, but sanki will

5:13 PM

thats the point of it

What is sanki? I looked at the link and don’t see a readme.md

NonaSuomy

Does inkbox support cbz/cbr?

is it a manga format? maybe mangareader supports it

NonaSuomy

What is sanki? I looked at the link and don’t see a readme.md

see the description of the project

Just seems to say a light version of anki

small anki

Sanki —verbosemode

5:17 PM

Maybe add to the description what Anki is all about or what it’s going to do in your idea.

when it will be usable, i will add

Is it currently running on the device?

yes, running an qt app is easy. but making it look good harder

5:20 PM

the main problem now is no sql support on the build in qt libraries, im trying to add them, look at #dev

5:20 PM

anki uses sql so i need too

What is the link to anki?

https://apps.ankiweb.net

Thank you

5:40 PM

What do you use it to remember?

5:41 PM

updating to 1.8 now.

5:47 PM

The boot logo needs some form of loading animation to signify it's doing something.

NonaSuomy

What do you use it to remember?

school, electronic things, leaguages, egzams etc

I keep hitting the home button and putting it to sleep when I think it is locked up

NonaSuomy

The boot logo needs some form of loading animation to signify it's doing something.

there is a loading animation

maybe it's on the updated version.

5:48 PM

It's still updating

NonaSuomy

I keep hitting the home button and putting it to sleep when I think it is locked up

?

1.5 just showed inkbox logo.

5:48 PM

nothng else

5:52 PM

InkBox crash Error code: 3

did you put it to sleep while it was updating?

Szybet

did you put it to sleep while it was updating?

?

don't believe so maybe during boot

5:59 PM

Didn't touch it after it said do you want to update

um... weird

5:59 PM

try to reboot

yeah notta

6:00 PM

need to remove the back and reflash the sd

yea do it

6:00 PM

but its weird

6:00 PM

tux-linux needs to look at it

I'll try one more time for giggles.

6:02 PM

too bad it doesn't go into a recovery usb state where you can just dump the os back to .inkbox folder to reload.

actually, in never inkbox it goes

6:03 PM

then you can telnet to it, or even an file server is launched

Szybet

actually, in never inkbox it goes

but only with rooted kernels

when you do the updates do you have to do them in order?

6:15 PM

or can you just go from 1.5 -> 1.8?

i think no, but im not 100% sure

6:16 PM

just do 1.8

ok will try again just waiting for it to boot again after sd flash.

Szybet

@tux-linux here is a problem with the Kobo Touch N905C, @NonaSuomy doesn't have the wifi button

It's not supported

D:

6:41 PM

why

tux-linux

It's not supported

Does it not have the same chipset as the A/B?

NonaSuomy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Did you update to 1.6, then to 1.8, as specified in the readme?

tux-linux

Did you update to 1.6, then to 1.8, as specified in the readme?

well, he didn't. i didn't knowed aboout this too

Nope! but will now

Szybet

why

https://github.com/kobolabs/Kobo-Reader/issues/105

dhd.ko module incompatible with self-compiled kernel · Issue #105 ·...

I've recompiled a kernel from the imx507 sources for a Kobo Mini and Kobo Touch. All is fine but the wi-fi module doesn't want to cope with that kernel. I compiled the other modules...

in the folder for 1.6 is two files

Szybet

well, he didn't. i didn't knowed aboout this too

It's literally in bold letters in the readme

Ideally without wifi this may not be very useful

And in the how-to update file on the server

NonaSuomy

in the folder for 1.6 is two files

Put them both there at once

NonaSuomy

Ideally without wifi this may not be very useful

This doesn't mean I haven't tried to support it there

NonaSuomy

Does it not have the same chipset as the A/B?

No

6:46 PM

Touch B is imx508

tux-linux

This doesn't mean I haven't tried to support it there

its complicated there...

6:47 PM

but what does not work there? at the end you say its working with busybox

It's the Wi-Fi firmware and kernel module Both are crap

On Mini, Glo and Touch C the kernel module doesn't want to load, it fails everytime

6:49 PM

I got it working on the Glo HD and Touch B which have the same Wi-Fi chip but different SoC

we need a linux wizard - C/CPP god to help us with those crap drivers :/

I think there is a solution, but I haven't tried it yet I will for 2.0 release

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http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/update/Update-HOWTO you should put that 1.6 note in these files. I'm still not sure where it says this in bold.

6:57 PM

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/update/1.6/HOWTO-Update

7:01 PM

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox#how-do-i-upgrade-inkbox

GitHub - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox: An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader ...

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/inkbox development by creating an account on GitHub.

May cause you less headaches just to put the release version on the site to 1.6.

NonaSuomy

May cause you less headaches just to put the release version on the site to 1.6.

no...

that will be more headache for me

Why is that?

7:10 PM

I guess if you release 2.0 as a full flash at some point then you can just remove the funny business.

One step forward.

NonaSuomy

Why is that?

The original 1.5 rootfs didn't copy the digital signature of the rootfs which lead to an error if ever the rootfs was updated

7:40 PM

1.6 update fixes that with a temporary kernel that bind-mounts a scripts that copies the digital signature

7:40 PM

Then it can update to 1.6 and future versions (edited)

7:40 PM

Now you can directly jump to 1.8

I thought I was being smart and copied 1.8 to the card as well but renamed it to .bak but it wiped the full folder

7:42 PM

Waiting for the 600KB/s copy process again.

7:45 PM

If you hit eject on the pc with the usb screen eventually go away or you have to physically unplug it as well?

pretty sure you need to unplug it, at least in my experience

NonaSuomy

If you hit eject on the pc with the usb screen eventually go away or you have to physically unplug it as well?

unplug it too

Worked this time around thank you!

9:48 PM

Now just need wifi and I can ditch the Kobo OEM OS

9:52 PM

How do you get out of light maps?

NonaSuomy

How do you get out of light maps?

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9:53 PM

this will be fixed, but there is no exit button

9:55 PM

maybe sleep will shut it down

9:55 PM

or just reboot it

Reboot it is I guess

10:00 PM

Does usb networking work?

yes

Not sure if I was reading something about that

it works

How do you set that up?

root the device

10:02 PM

its on the wiki

What was the benefit to doing this https://youtu.be/Mt5tBSW9Gv0

GitHub - jasonhector/qok: A custom openhab e-ink display using pyth...

NickelBoot 1.0 demo

holy crap thats soo cool

10:43 PM

why i didn't knowed about this

10:43 PM

diffrent versions of inkbox, even nickel on the same sd card

So basically you can boot inkbox and the oem os from the same card?

yes

10:44 PM

and many more

10:44 PM

its a bootloader

That is cool

bricking your device is impossible with this

Is there more than these two?

nope

10:45 PM

maybe the one based on debian

10:45 PM

but its dead

Is the video just a PoC so far?

propably

Szybet

diffrent versions of inkbox, even nickel on the same sd card

Only nickel

Szybet

propably

There's a repo on my GH account

Is nickel the name of the official kobo os?

11:36 PM

@tux-linux can I test your wifi fix for n905c ?

NonaSuomy

Is nickel the name of the official kobo os?

yes

NonaSuomy

@tux-linux can I test your wifi fix for n905c ?

not done yet

tux-linux

Only nickel

Does that mean only only Nickel like inkbox can’t be booted from it?

i don't understand

tux-linux

Only nickel

He said you could boot multiple versions of inkbox/nickel. You said only nickel. Was trying to understand if that means nickelboot can only boot nickel and not inkbox.

11:54 PM

Or you can boot 1 nickel or inkbox from it.

NonaSuomy

He said you could boot multiple versions of inkbox/nickel. You said only nickel. Was trying to understand if that means nickelboot can only boot nickel and not inkbox.

You can only boot Nickel, that's why it's called NickelBoot

tux-linux

You can only boot Nickel, that's why it's called NickelBoot

Thank you for the clarification.

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12:05 AM

Why would you want to boot multiple copies of Nickel?

12:06 AM

Or is the goal to eventually figure out how to boot both and that was just the first step?

Help other people @pgaskin , who maintains NickelMenu, found that useful, I don't know if he will use it or not, he might not need it, but I think it's definitely useful for packagers to test their software on different Nickel versions (edited)

Ok would this be difficult to port to inkbox https://github.com/jasonhector/qok

A custom openhab e-ink display using python and Qt - GitHub - jasonhector/qok: A custom openhab e-ink display using python and Qt

Not really

12:16 AM

Python is a problem

Is the python interpreter included with inkbox?

It is, but it will be removed

12:18 AM

Python is a performance killer

NonaSuomy

Ok would this be difficult to port to inkbox https://github.com/jasonhector/qok

It would be better IF you rewrite this in cpp

12:18 AM

Thats what i do with sanki

Szybet

Python is a performance killer

this

12:21 AM

@Szybet imgtool is working

Just having it available kills the performance of inkbox or just sluggish to use it to develop something and run it?

Though it won't work for the Nia currently if you try to build an image It needs an inkbox-update.upd.isa file which isn't currently on the server It will be for 1.9

If it has no impact to the os should just be left

tux-linux

@Szybet imgtool is working

Nice, good work

Barrier to entry for a lot of people to play with python code is a lot less daunting

NonaSuomy

Just having it available kills the performance of inkbox or just sluggish to use it to develop something and run it?

Python is not great for any embedded device It's an interpreted language, not compiled

If they just want to play with some console basic hello world stuff

It's just not efficient

12:25 AM

If they want to do that, they need to do it in bash (edited)

This^

12:25 AM

Python is too bulky for such a device like e-readers

12:26 AM

That's the reality

whistles happily

12:26 AM

Python rocks.

hmm......

12:28 AM

Given that the main rootfs is a squashfs compressed in XZ format, not so sure in my case

The only significant performance cost that you'll feel more than on standard devices is the interpreter bringup.

12:28 AM

After that, performance is similar to what it should be.

12:28 AM

So, yeah, spawning a bunch of interpreters will be slow, but that's not really what you want to be doing with it ;o)

tux-linux

Python is not great for any embedded device It's an interpreted language, not compiled

They use it endlessly now for microcontrollers

yeah well, you'll admit that bash is still faster

Micropython

Depends on what you do with it after (edited)

Micropython

forking a shell isn't free either

12:29 AM

(or forking inside a shell, either. which you can much more easily avoid in Python)

https://learn.adafruit.com/getting-started-with-raspberry-pi-pico-circuitpython/micropython-or-circuitpython

Getting Started with Raspberry Pi Pico and CircuitPython

CircuitPython for Pico will get you started in minutes!

NonaSuomy

@tux-linux can I test your wifi fix for n905c ?

btw is this also for the Mini?

Well, in my experience with Python on eReaders, it wasn't great Shell was much faster

Python is by no means a speed daemon, but that's not what you should use it for anyway

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dill

btw is this also for the Mini?

maybe

ye python is slow on Kobos

You're conflating the interpreter bringup with, well, everything else ;p

NonaSuomy

They use it endlessly now for microcontrollers

Did you actually tryied it out?

I'm also thinking about Gentoo's portage... (edited)

Szybet

Did you actually tryied it out?

I have It works fine, but I'd rather have used C++ if I would have had more time

Paludis tried to rewrite it in C++. That... didn't go all that well, performance-wise.

Zackfreedman with his keyboard, he coded it with python and now its slow

12:32 AM

So idk about the performance :p

And it was written by people who were damn fine C++ coders

Well, let's still admit that Calculating dependencies might be actually longer than updating your system

NiLuJe

And it was written by people who were damn fine C++ coders

Interesting

It's slow, but not necessarily because of Python

tux-linux

I'm also thinking about Gentoo's portage... (edited)

On the kobo??????

no .... lmfao

Good

Python sure has some nice features over other languages and simplicity, but on embedded devices I would rather use a compiled language

12:35 AM

On desktop I can see the appeal

Depends on what you use it for ;o)

examples?

12:37 AM

I use it for text file parsing, I haven't gotten around changing this yet, but it's incredibly slow at start because of the interpreter bringup as you said

Well, yeah, that: don't spawn interpreters for 5ms tasks ;p (edited)

Or maybe spawn it initially and delegate tasks later...

tux-linux

I use it for text file parsing, I haven't gotten around changing this yet, but it's incredibly slow at start because of the interpreter bringup as you said

I will replace this if you dont, just for saying "inkbox is python free"

12:38 AM

I could be open to adding Python in the main rootfs But those who want that will have to give me valid reasons why it couldn't be accomplished with shell

Readability, mostly

Inkbox is too fast, we need to slow it down

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Python code is incredibly easy to follow

NiLuJe

Python code is incredibly easy to follow

Thats true

Yes, apart from readability...

And Qt code is horrible to follow

We focus on the end result, not how to read the code, even if reading shell is quite painful

Szybet

And Qt code is horrible to follow

true too

I... kind of like it, for C++

12:41 AM

cough rust cough

Well, it's easy to follow when there are enough comments But like, InkBox is not good on that point

Rust is not great, but better

(counter-example of needing to be a rocket scientist to follow)

python3 interpreter bringup takes 6.5 seconds on the Mini

12:42 AM

(after echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches)

I like the idea of Rust, but I can't see myself ever touching it with a ten-foot pole without actually having, to, like, learn CS stuff for real ;p

Most of the Rust code I read I didn't understand anything

12:43 AM

C++ is enough for me...

For reading, it depends

12:45 AM

But for packaging, documentation, level to learn it its better

12:45 AM

And the compiler is smart most od the time

interesting I still wouldn't jump to code InkBox in Rust

Well, look at plato

12:48 AM

Fasttttttttt

Yes I won't try to imagine Plato or InkBox programmed in Python that would be a nightmare

12:51 AM

change my mind........

I wager you'd actually be surprised ;).

hmm hmm

I'm not saying it's necessarily a great idea, or that it would be amazingly fast, but I don't expect that it would be meaningfully slow.

12:52 AM

And you'd be able to prototype hilariously faster

12:52 AM

Need I remind you that calibre is written in PyQt ;o)

12:53 AM

(with a bunch of native modules for computationally intensive bits)

NiLuJe

And you'd be able to prototype hilariously faster

true

12:54 AM

random question: i've never been sure whether koreader was interpreted or compiled, or both

The answer is neither and both ;p

I've read a bit about LuaJIT and it seems nice

It's a JIT compiler, meaning it heuristically compiles stuff at runtime (edited)

12:56 AM

Which allows it to be pretty damn fast when the JIT gods are with you ;p

hmm nice

12:56 AM

maybe inkbox in lua would be nice

The native ffi support makes interacting with C libraries fairly painless (caveats may apply :D), at some readability cost

12:57 AM

Lua's... weird.

NiLuJe

Lua's... weird.

I like syntax though

Koreader is in lua... And i have seen faster things

I grew to like it, but it can be deceptively finicky despite its simplicity.

12:58 AM

@Szybet: I haven't ;p

12:58 AM

We beat the Kindle UI

Idk about the kindle

NiLuJe

We beat the Kindle UI

that's pretty damn true

Which is the fastest thing I've ever gotten the pleasure to use.

On the nia it wasn't great

one of the slowest I have seen

On pocketbook too

The Nia's kernel is a broken mess (apparently less so on 4.32)

NiLuJe

The Nia's kernel is a broken mess (apparently less so on 4.32)

true too

And PocketBooks run on weird old sunxi SoCs

I nad used a kindle too, its not bad?

The most recent PB contributor simply gave up trying to do things by hand and implemented a native backend to ease most of the pain away

1:00 AM

the Kindle's UI (and Reader) is pretty damn snappy (usually), yeah.

1:01 AM

Despite its... fairly complex design.

NiLuJe

the Kindle's UI (and Reader) is pretty damn snappy (usually), yeah.

not on my pw3 though...?

NiLuJe

Despite its... fairly complex design.

its fairly coughs restrictive OS

It's snappier than nickel on similar hardware ;p

InkBox is restrictive, but Kindle OS is......

1:02 AM

Like, Secure Boot was a bit too much

1:03 AM

I'd like to implement that on InkBox, but at least provide users a way to change the keys if they want

Ok, I think this time is the right time; I've gotten around about everything I've wanted to fix in the GUI, completed logging (it now also logs to /var/log/inkbox-gui.log if GUI_DEBUG flag is set to true), added support for landscape PDFs, fixed the timezone thing, it doesn't require any reboot anymore and implemented some fancy cinematic brightness if a different setting is set for a book. So I think I can release 1.9 now. Finally. Am I wrong? ^^ (@Szybet : advice requested) (edited)

Is there a guide to root to enable USBNet

Did you read the wiki? https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Boot_flags (edited)

Boot flags

When you have no network connection to modify files?

Boot in diagnostics

4:45 AM

The flags tab

How do you access Sd-p1

4:51 AM

To put the boot flags in place?

Launch diagnostics mode

4:52 AM

There is a flags tab at the top

4:52 AM

Tick the USBNET_ENABLE checkbox (edited)

4:52 AM

(are you rooted)?

NonaSuomy

How do you access Sd-p1

mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt

4:53 AM

but you can enable usbnet from diags

how to boot in diagnostics mode seems it says you do a factory reset?

?

do you just hit reset from the options menu?

no

4:54 AM

you need to reboot and once the green light starts flashing, immediately slide the power button repeatedly for ~5s (edited)

4:54 AM

then wait a minute or two

4:54 AM

and diags GUI should come up

got to it

if you need to root the device, go into reset options and reset as root

4:56 AM

after the reset is done, get into diags again and tick the usbnet checkbox

USBNet doesn't work unless you are rooted correct?

then reboot without sliding the power button again and it will show up as an usbnet device on your computer with IP 192.168.2.2 by default

4:57 AM

yes

NonaSuomy

USBNet doesn't work unless you are rooted correct?

when on a standard kernel you can't access any shell even via serial for security reasons

tux-linux

if you need to root the device, go into reset options and reset as root

you will need to update to 1.6->1.8 again though

4:58 AM

maybe I can give you a quick trick without needing factory reset

4:58 AM

do you have access to a linux pc?

tux-linux

maybe I can give you a quick trick without needing factory reset

want to do that instead?

Sure

5:01 AM

Arch Linux

power off put microsd card into the pc

mount /path/to/inkbox-update-1.8.upd.isa /mnt
dd if=/mnt/uImage-root-n905c of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=81920
echo rooted | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872
umount /mnt

(edited)

5:03 AM

while you're at it:

mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
echo true > /mnt/flags/USBNET_ENABLE
umount /mnt

(edited)

5:03 AM

and finally

sync
eject /dev/mmcblk0

Szybet

also, could you create a problems / bugs / help channel here on discord tux-linux?

done

Thank you trying now

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sudo mount inkbox-update-1.8.upd.isa /mnt
ls /mnt
rootfs.squashfs       uImage-root-n905c       uImage-std-n905c       update.isa
rootfs.squashfs.dgst  uImage-root-n905c.dgst  uImage-std-n905c.dgst  update.isa.dgst
cd /mnt

sudo dd if=/mnt/uImage-root-n905c of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=81920
11660+1 records in
11660+1 records out
5970332 bytes (6.0 MB, 5.7 MiB) copied, 0.0329221 s, 181 MB/s
sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872

sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt                              
mount: /mnt: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist.

sudo fdisk -l?

Just my nvme0 is listed

well, most of it should be there, just enable usbnet from diags then sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 skip=79872 count=1? (edited)

rooted
0+1 records in
0+1 records out
7 bytes copied, 2.7383e-05 s, 256 kB/s

Your SD isn't detected by your computer

5:33 AM

You just have written to an empty file

5:33 AM

Am I right?

5:33 AM

sudo rm /dev/mmcblk0 and plug/unplug your SD

NonaSuomy

sudo mount inkbox-update-1.8.upd.isa /mnt
ls /mnt
rootfs.squashfs       uImage-root-n905c       uImage-std-n905c       update.isa
rootfs.squashfs.dgst  uImage-root-n905c.dgst  uImage-std-n905c.dgst  update.isa.dgst
cd /mnt

sudo dd if=/mnt/uImage-root-n905c of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=81920
11660+1 records in
11660+1 records out
5970332 bytes (6.0 MB, 5.7 MiB) copied, 0.0329221 s, 181 MB/s
sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872

sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt                              
mount: /mnt: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist.

181mb/s data rate is completely impossible

let me try another reader

tux-linux

sudo rm /dev/mmcblk0 and plug/unplug your SD

then check if it detects partitions with fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sdb: 3.69 GiB, 3965190144 bytes, 7744512 sectors
Disk model: SD/MMC          
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x9566d046

Device     Boot   Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1         40959   79871   38913   19M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2        104448 1128447 1024000  500M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3       1128448 1390591  262144  128M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb4       1390592 7549747 6159156  2.9G 83 Linux

ok redo the steps I mentioned before

tux-linux

power off put microsd card into the pc

mount /path/to/inkbox-update-1.8.upd.isa /mnt
dd if=/mnt/uImage-root-n905c of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=81920
echo rooted | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872
umount /mnt

(edited)

there

/dev/mmcblk0 => sdb1 ?

yes

or just sdb?

just sdb

5:39 AM

sdb1 if it is mmcblk0p1

should I change the IP address to the same as my lan?

5:51 AM

does it do dhcp?

NonaSuomy

should I change the IP address to the same as my lan?

No and no

6:03 AM

It works?

6:04 AM

Normally I do ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.1

booting...

1

ssh root@192.168.2.2 Password is "root"

do i say yes to the manage books when you plug in the usb cable?

6:12 AM

I see under settings => storage it says networking now

6:19 AM

Hmm I don't see a usb0

6:22 AM

Disconnecting the USB cable didn't seem to reset back main screen just stuck on the black screen with the USB logo

NonaSuomy

do i say yes to the manage books when you plug in the usb cable?

No

maybe it crashed

It will be in usbnet before you click that button

6:24 AM

Just reset with button on the back

6:24 AM

Or plug/unplug again, hit connect again, wait, unplug (edited)

NonaSuomy

Hmm I don't see a usb0

It might be enp2s2oui1 or other mangle of random things like that instead of usb0 too

only seeing my two ethernet jacks (1: lo 2: laptop 3: wifi 4: dock

6:28 AM

oh after the crash I rebooted see something now

6:28 AM

6: enp0s20f0u1

It must be that

6:31 AM

Try it

sudo ip addr add 192.168.2.1 dev enp0s20f0u1

6:34 AM

then I ssh root@192.168.2.2 and nothing.

6:39 AM

6: enp0s20f0u1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 92:3a:64:50:4a:12 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.2.1/32 scope global enp0s20f0u1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

6:42 AM

Think I crashed it again by pressing the dhcp lease option under settings

6:42 AM

Rebooting...

6:48 AM

Hmm under Information it shows IP address: Not available but maybe this only shows wifi...

NonaSuomy

Think I crashed it again by pressing the dhcp lease option under settings

Don't do that It's not for that purpose

NonaSuomy

6: enp0s20f0u1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 92:3a:64:50:4a:12 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.2.1/32 scope global enp0s20f0u1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

You're not using the right subnet mask

7:02 AM

It has to be /24

tux-linux

Ok, I think this time is the right time; I've gotten around about everything I've wanted to fix in the GUI, completed logging (it now also logs to /var/log/inkbox-gui.log if GUI_DEBUG flag is set to true), added support for landscape PDFs, fixed the timezone thing, it doesn't require any reboot anymore and implemented some fancy cinematic brightness if a different setting is set for a book. So I think I can release 1.9 now. Finally. Am I wrong? ^^ (@Szybet : advice requested) (edited)

for 1.9 its propably everything, if you want and there is a easy fix you can try to make the brightness slider bigger in horizontal orientation, but if no thats it

tux-linux

and diags GUI should come up

is this for nia a thing too?

tux-linux

I'd like to implement that on InkBox, but at least provide users a way to change the keys if they want

yes, changing keys is needed

8:25 AM

but... its too much

8:25 AM

its an ereader... you read books on it

Szybet

is this for nia a thing too?

Yes It will be in the final image

nice

Szybet

for 1.9 its propably everything, if you want and there is a easy fix you can try to make the brightness slider bigger in horizontal orientation, but if no thats it

It's already too big IMO

then thats it

Ok thanks

tux-linux

It has to be /24

I noticed that it auto chose that when I didnt specify it and then I deleted it and put /24 at the end and it still didn’t work.

If you try with ifconfig?

3:00 PM

If it isn't there, install busybox and do busybox ifconfig

3:01 PM

Or maybe the net-tools package on Arch

I don’t have ifconfig in arch Linux it’s also recommend to no longer use net tools.

Well, if something fails, that's what I would try out

3:02 PM

ifconfig is not a monster that will eat you ;p

I don’t see what it would do differently

3:02 PM

The ip is set on the adapter what more would need to happen

I've never used ip dev set when trying Kobo networking

3:02 PM

So maybe it won't change But you can try

3:04 PM

If it doesn't work, it's a hardware problem on either your computer or the Kobo And I'm not sure I can help you there Are you using NetworkManager?

8: enp0s20f0u1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether f2:d8:5f:15:d8:72 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.2.1/24 scope global enp0s20f0u1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

3:06 PM

I only use systemd-networkd

Well... It's DOWN

good eye

NonaSuomy

I don’t have ifconfig in arch Linux it’s also recommend to no longer use net tools.

what

ifconfig auto-ups the interface if you set an IP

sudo ifconfig -s enp0s20f0u5 192.168.2.10/24

3:08 PM

thats what i use

That's why ip didn't work

on arch linux

tux-linux

If it doesn't work, it's a hardware problem on either your computer or the Kobo And I'm not sure I can help you there Are you using NetworkManager?

you need disable network manager

3:09 PM

or stop connecting to this interface

He/she doesn't use it

so what She/he uses? (edited)

NonaSuomy

I only use systemd-networkd

.

good luck

3:10 PM

i need to disable nm in kde to stop getting dhcp address on the usb interface

tux-linux

ifconfig auto-ups the interface if you set an IP

It's really not much to switch over to doing everything with ip

3:15 PM

It's working now. Thanks for spotting that it was Down

3:15 PM

sudo ip link set dev enp0s20f0u1 up

Szybet

sudo ifconfig -s enp0s20f0u5 192.168.2.10/24

this is simplier but yea

Szybet

this is simplier but yea

https://archlinux.org/news/deprecation-of-net-tools/

3:18 PM

Arch Linux is very bleeding edge it gets you in a lot of trouble but it's fun to learn how to do a lot from scratch.

Ok nice

so next is password issue you said it's root for the password correct?

NonaSuomy

https://archlinux.org/news/deprecation-of-net-tools/

yea, sure, and no. many apps still use ifconfig, it will be there for 10 next years

NonaSuomy

so next is password issue you said it's root for the password correct?

yes its root

Szybet

yea, sure, and no. many apps still use ifconfig, it will be there for 10 next years

I've never been one to be stuck in the past just because everyone does or uses something.

i use ip too, but if it doesn't work, there a re problems i use ifconfig

Always enjoy the bleeding edge like managing a constant puzzle.

3:22 PM

I try not to go oh it doesn't work lets go back to how it used to be. Always try to keep moving forward.

3:23 PM

In arch you usually break a lot more when you let tools manage things for you.

3:25 PM

root@192.168.2.2: Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).

NonaSuomy

I try not to go oh it doesn't work lets go back to how it used to be. Always try to keep moving forward.

lets go back and dont waste time on this

Szybet

lets go back and dont waste time on this

haha

3:25 PM

Some times you enjoy hitting yourself with a hammer because it feels so good when you stop.

NonaSuomy

Some times you enjoy hitting yourself with a hammer because it feels so good when you stop.

im not a "masochist"

Ideally though it becomes more about a really simple system with less to go wrong. (edited)

3:29 PM

Any ideas about this? root@192.168.2.2's password: Permission denied, please try again.

3:30 PM

How do you get out of this screen?

3:30 PM

Not sure how it came up

@tux-linux its the second time a person has problems with this :/

3:31 PM

on the glo the file chooser ( its horrible anyway ) is not working

3:31 PM

it will be replaced for 2.0 i hope

It disables all the buttons while it is up

3:32 PM

If the hardware button was a home button instead of sleep would probably solve some what

NonaSuomy

If the hardware button was a home button instead of sleep would probably solve some what

no no no no no

NonaSuomy

It disables all the buttons while it is up

its window above the buttons

Szybet

its window above the buttons

none of the buttons work on the screen except the ones in the file window

3:35 PM

I guess reboot it is.

yea

3:36 PM

this needs to be fixed

Szybet

no no no no no

Why do you need two sleep buttons? the slider power switch puts it to sleep and the home button puts it to sleep?

the glo has 2 psyhical buttons?

this is not the glo

okay, the touch

3:40 PM

the touch has?

The Touch has the slider power switch and the home button under the screen as seen on the image above.

oh okay

3:43 PM

then it could go to home

@tux-linux any idea why the password of root doesn't work with the root user?

do you have a rooted kernel

Szybet

no no no no no

You aren't on 1.9, it is fixed there Not as a home button, but it doesn't sleep the device

Szybet

do you have a rooted kernel

I don't think USBNet works without rooted kernel?

propably

NonaSuomy

How do you get out of this screen?

Go in root and open rootfs.tar.xz (double click)

arent they squashfs?...

It's just a random file there

3:53 PM

It was used for the base of GUI rootfs

3:53 PM

(buildroot) (edited)

NonaSuomy

I don't think USBNet works without rooted kernel?

It only works with a rooted kernel

3:54 PM

Oh

3:54 PM

In 1.8 root SSH login wasn't enabled yet

3:54 PM

Login as user, password user

3:54 PM

su to get root

there is ssh inthe normal kernel?

No

3:55 PM

It's designed to be locked down

will try after reboot hit the file manager again...

tux-linux

Go in root and open rootfs.tar.xz (double click)

Do this next time The button with the book opens it

3:56 PM

You can open books with local storage search instead

Ok thank you will try that next time.

1

NonaSuomy

will try after reboot hit the file manager again...

Usbnet is activated roughly at the same time the ebook reader splash shows up

3:58 PM

There is a progress bar in 1.9 (edited)

1

tux-linux

There is a progress bar in 1.9 (edited)

Before I learned to be patient with the start up I would hit the home button on the bottom of the touch to see if it was doing anything which would instead put it to sleep haha... so that is a good change.

4:02 PM

It would be nice if the home button was a home button but maybe they removed this off of all the other units.

4:03 PM

ssh user@192.168.2.2 
user@192.168.2.2's password: 
Welcome to InkBox!
* Warning *
Root filesystem is mounted read-only.
Invoke `ifsctl mnt rootfs rw' to make it read-write.
kobo:~$ su root
Password: 
kobo:/#

4:03 PM

w00t!

yes

What would I need to do to now to make it so the device can get internet access? (edited)

4:12 PM

um experience in cpp, c and linux

or just add a external battery / usb wifi adapter

4:44 PM

but thats stupid

Interesting idea never the less.

Make an internet bridge via usb with brctl

5:07 PM

Then request a DHCP lease with the button in Settings that's designed just for that

NonaSuomy

It would be nice if the home button was a home button but maybe they removed this off of all the other units.

The Touch is the only model with a home button

How do you exit netsurf?

Top right menu File -> Quit

5:20 PM

Don't go in other menus with netsurf Can make X11 subsystem crash for no reason Just quit

In the picture above do you see a top right menu?

The icon with a file and a x

Ok will try that next time.

1

Via ssh, you can do killall netsurf-gtk2

So I added both enp0s20f0u2u2 (primary network cable to the laptop interface) to a bridge called brusb and enp0s20f0u1 to the bridge but doesn't seem to grab a lease from dhcp. (edited)

Bridges are very finicky Maybe you can debug via serial port

5:33 PM

Sometimes they work and then they don't work for no reason

debug this with wireshark

NonaSuomy

So I added both enp0s20f0u2u2 (primary network cable to the laptop interface) to a bridge called brusb and enp0s20f0u1 to the bridge but doesn't seem to grab a lease from dhcp. (edited)

kobo dhcp?

Ok, let's get 1.9 out... now

1:30 AM

Wheee! https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/releases/tag/1.9

Release InkBox 1.9 · Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

Probably the biggest release since version 1.5. There goes the changelog: 'Online library' feature for Wi-Fi-able devices Picture display support Support for landscape PDFs Wi-Fi devices: ...

1:30 AM

I will put the images online tonight or tomorrow

1

WOOO!!

1

1:41 AM

:D

@tux-linux Great Work!

1

Got it working over usbnet

1

4:36 AM

Thanks for your help!

1

4:37 AM

The adapter has two interfaces now

4:38 AM

kobo:/# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
2: usb0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 82:99:3d:50:42:a0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.2.2/24 brd 192.168.2.255 scope global usb0
    inet 10.20.30.118/24 brd 10.20.30.255 scope global usb0

4:39 AM

why does it not show the IP under system info

4:39 AM

is that only looking at the ip for wifi?

The IP is for the Wi-Fi interface

4:39 AM

You can check system report, it will display the IP for usbnet there

system report?

sorry

4:40 AM

you aren't on 1.9 yet

4:40 AM

i'm confused

4:41 AM

normally in 1.9 it's settings->page2->generate system report

ah ok waiting with baited breath for the binary release...

1

4:43 AM

is there a docker to compile from git?

sysreport looks like this

sysreport-2022-03-02_22.38.13.pdf

251.17 KB

4:43 AM

no there isn't

Some weird disconnected message showed up while downloading but it’s still going fine…

netsurf makes the vnc viewer crash for no reason sometimes

4:52 AM

doesn't happen with other apps

ok so that’s an error message from vnc just dumping its window on top of netsurf and not netsurf?

yes

4:56 AM

vnc viewer is qt

What does oem nickel use for the beta browser?

5:02 AM

Hmm finished download but wasn’t sure how to close the download window tapped the percentage at the bottom left and the screen went dark

5:04 AM

Tried your killall netsurf-gtk2, inkbox is reloading now (edited)

5:11 AM

Where would netsurf default download location be?

5:16 AM

any chance you added an orientation button to 1.9?

NonaSuomy

any chance you added an orientation button to 1.9?

no

NonaSuomy

Where would netsurf default download location be?

/xorg/root/Downloads probably?

5:18 AM

or just /xorg/root

NonaSuomy

What does oem nickel use for the beta browser?

qtwebkit it's not possible to use it on inkbox because unsolvable build issues

1

tux-linux

or just /xorg/root

/xorg/root you found it thank you.

1

5:24 AM

In the UI redesign of 1.9 does the file book button fit on the screen now?

no

5:24 AM

but you can use local storage search (edited)

any hacks to get to that xorg/root folder?

probably not

can you inject things into that recent menu at the top from ssh?

yes but it won't work like what you're planning to do

5:26 AM

/data/config/08-recent_books

maybe /opt/config if it doesn't exist

NonaSuomy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

it won't work because you're in the /kobo chroot while in the GUI

NonaSuomy

any hacks to get to that xorg/root folder?

Open KTerm

scp /root/download.epub user@localhost:/tmp
ssh user@localhost
su
mv /tmp/download.epub /data/onboard
sync
exit
exit

5:28 AM

In 1.9 this can be narrowed down to this:

scp /root/download.epub root@localhost:/data/onboard
sync
exit

When I update to 1.9 will it kill my root?

no

5:29 AM

btw it's ready

5:30 AM

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/update/1.9/n905c/inkbox-update-1.9.upd.isa

2

5:53 AM

My fav feature to the update right there.

thx

yes, a big changelog

What would need to be done to get cbr/cbz to render in the reader?

6:59 AM

Besides pre converting them to another format.

tux-linux

In 1.9 this can be narrowed down to this:

scp /root/download.epub root@localhost:/data/onboard
sync
exit

Worked good thank you

What is the correlation with vnc and netsurf? Like are we looking through vnc at netsurf or something? (Why does vnc dying mean netsurf no longer functions)

NonaSuomy

What would need to be done to get cbr/cbz to render in the reader?

adding a library to get files from a zip without upacking them, and some code to handle page changing

11:52 AM

its very easy to make, they are just images

NonaSuomy

What is the correlation with vnc and netsurf? Like are we looking through vnc at netsurf or something? (Why does vnc dying mean netsurf no longer functions)

Touch input in X11 is handled by a VNC viewer here

why do you write u-boot?

2:28 PM

and will the update work for me?

2:28 PM

i dont have a recovery partition

2:29 PM

and i will need to replace the kernel to a rooted one?

2:29 PM

can i just remove u-boot and the kernel from the update?

I will upload an image tonight

Szybet

and will the update work for me?

Probably

Szybet

and i will need to replace the kernel to a rooted one?

?

Szybet

can i just remove u-boot and the kernel from the update?

And this

Why? Won't do harm

its unneceserry, adds risk and additional writes

Maybe But Kobo update packages always include U-Boot and kernel

becouse they are adding uneceserry risky and additional writes to their updates (edited)

If something goes wrong you just factory reset

how do you factory reset when u-boot is dead

That's then the user's fault

sure, but we could avoid them

If it updated with battery too low, if there was a manual shutdown during the update

5:57 PM

Also, a kernel update is required for 1.9

5:57 PM

And U-Boot too for most devices

and for me, dd sometimes doesnt work, i have written a kernel, nothing happened, opened the device, writted it again and it worked

tux-linux

Also, a kernel update is required for 1.9

well sure then yes

The update script is more reliable than you

tux-linux

And U-Boot too for most devices

why, what did you changed

On dd that is

Szybet

why, what did you changed

Kernel load size

tux-linux

The update script is more reliable than you

we will se

tux-linux

Kernel load size

oh okay, so the kernel now can be bigger?

Well until it reaches 11.5M

5:58 PM

That's the limit of the MMC space for it

11.5 is better than 10.5

Maybe it's 10.5 I don't recall exactly

Szybet

and i will need to replace the kernel to a rooted one?

and this?

Before U-Boot of other devices loaded 8M instead of 10 and the kernel size increased

Szybet

and this?

No the update script writes the root kernel if you are rooted

nice, thanks for this!

suprice to me, the update worked

10:14 PM

is there anything to test?

I've still got issues with the factory images I'll put that online tonight hopefully

tux-linux

Touch input in X11 is handled by a VNC viewer here

Why?

because I didn't find any other way to handle it elsewise

can't handle it like a mouse?

and since touch input works well in Qt, I thought why not just start a local vnc viewer and send input events to x11 via qt

Seems convoluted to use vnc as the touch interface I would have thought x11 would already have a proper interface to accept touch input like a mouse etc.

I would have had to develop the whole input driver Which I don't really have the skills for

I believe in you.

1:02 AM

Can you rip it out of nickel?

? Nickel is using Qt

does nickel use vnc to accept touch input?

no, it's qt Qt in InkBox doesn't use VNC touch input, it's native

What is the chipset that it uses for touch?

I didn't develop the platform plugin

NonaSuomy

What is the chipset that it uses for touch?

depends

probably just a serial or i2c bus

it's i2c

1:04 AM

sometimes elan touch or neonode zforce

1. Power on the sensor.
2. Wait for sensor to assert Data Ready pin (DR).
3. Initiate 2 byte I2C read operation. Payload of this read should be EE XX where XX is the amount of bytes toread in a second I2C read operation.
4. Read XX amount of bytes (number of bytes to read is indicated by second byte of first I2C Read Operation).Now read a message called BootComplete. The message should be
F0 11 40 02 00 00 63 0B 80 01 YY 81 02 03 YY 82 02 00 YY
where YY is usually "00" but can have another value. This signals the sensor is now booted.
5. To enable the sensor to start sending touch notifications, do the following:
a. Sending an Enable command:
EE 09 40 02 02 00 65 03 81 01 00
b. Read the response. The response should be:
EF 09 40 02 02 00 65 03 81 01 00
The initialization is now complete. When DR is asserted the sensor will send a touch notification or a newBootComplete. A BootComplete indicates that the sensor has restarted for some reason; Enable must then be setagain

The I2C Transport Protocol is very simple and identical in both directions (Read and Write). • Byte 1: FrameStart (A synchronization byte). • Byte 2: DataSize (Contains the size of the data that will be transmitted. Please note that the DataSize >= 1.The reason being that :even if the Command Data size is zero, one byte will be transmitted containing theCommandID). • Bytes 3 - : Payload encoded in ASN.1.

yes, touchscreens send bootcomplete signals

Looks well documented https://www.micro-semiconductor.com/datasheet/0e-NN-AMC-MAXIPCEX.pdf

1:28 AM

Even has some pseudo code near the end.

1:32 AM

https://support.neonode.com/docs/display/downloads

I'll see But this is not in my main goals currently Thanks for the docs (edited)

https://elinux.org/Interfacing_with_I2C_Devices

Interfacing with I2C Devices

1:36 AM

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/i2c/index.html

1:37 AM

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/i2c/writing-clients.html

1:38 AM

https://support.neonode.com/docs/display/Downloads/zForce+Programmer+Downloads?preview=/45875642/45875666/zForce%20Programmer%201.0.0.0-BETA.zip

1:42 AM

https://support.neonode.com/docs/display/Downloads/Communication+Protocol+Downloads?preview=/1671913/39518982/zforce_pdu_def_1_9.asn

1:44 AM

https://github.com/neonode-inc/zforce-arduino/blob/master/example/zForceKeyboardMouse/zForceKeyboardMouse.ino

zforce-arduino/zForceKeyboardMouse.ino at master · neonode-inc/zfor...

Neonode Touch Sensor Module interface library for Arduino - zforce-arduino/zForceKeyboardMouse.ino at master · neonode-inc/zforce-arduino

1:45 AM

First corp company I have ever seen to offer an Arduino Sketch

1:46 AM

https://github.com/neonode-inc/multi-sensor-example-application

1:50 AM

https://github.com/neonode-inc/zforce-arduino/blob/master/src/Zforce.cpp

zforce-arduino/Zforce.cpp at master · neonode-inc/zforce-arduino

Neonode Touch Sensor Module interface library for Arduino - zforce-arduino/Zforce.cpp at master · neonode-inc/zforce-arduino

1:51 AM

https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/TOUCHSCREEN_ZFORCE.html

1:53 AM

"The Linux kernel configuration item CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_ZFORCE"

1:53 AM

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxNjc

Linux 3.13 Supports The Neonode zForce

There's many exciting Linux 3.13 kernel features already, but we have another one to talk about today

1:55 AM

~~Linus~~ Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de> beat you to it... https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/diff/drivers/input/touchscreen/zforce_ts.c?id=4937e2a6f939a41bf811378e80d71f68aa0950c6 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/diff/include/linux/platform_data/zforce_ts.h?id=4937e2a6f939a41bf811378e80d71f68aa0950c6 (edited)

1:57 AM

Maybe just email Heiko and ask if he will port it for your inkbox. (edited)

there isn't only zforce

2:06 AM

elan, and probably other ones in newer devices

2:06 AM

but maybe, yeah

"the work appears to be done by MundoReader and Barnes & Noble."

2:07 AM

Maybe they will want to deploy your os to their devices as well haha

2:08 AM

what is the chipset numbers for elan?

I'm more talking about the X11 input driver not the kernel one

2:10 AM

is that what we were talking about?

Like for the zforce the chipset is zforce nn1001

2:13 AM

should say on the plastic package if you have one of those devices

2:15 AM

once that is implimented x11 should just accept it as a mouse input.

mouse is not the same as touch screen

2:15 AM

mouse sends relative events and touchscreen sends absolute ones

2:16 AM

I can't find it

maybe install i2c-tools and see if it tells you

in the kernel it just says elan-touch

https://github.com/S-trace/xorg-input-kobomultitouch

GitHub - S-trace/xorg-input-kobomultitouch: Xorg Z-Force touchscree...

Xorg Z-Force touchscreen input driver for Kobo books - GitHub - S-trace/xorg-input-kobomultitouch: Xorg Z-Force touchscreen input driver for Kobo books

I tried that once and had no success Maybe I should retry some time

Did you contact Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>

No

I will beg everyone for you.

thanks, but you don't have to only netsurf isn't quite working

2:32 AM

you can create x11 extensions with other apps if you want

2:32 AM

I already did some there: http://23.163.0.39/bundles/kobox/extensions/

c64 emulator

do you have video of that?

no, you can try it out

2:38 AM

plug usb in -> kobox settings -> export extensions put the two files there

do you just dump that in the .inkbox dir?

and it will be in x11 apps

tux-linux

plug usb in -> kobox settings -> export extensions put the two files there

there

Sorry was scrolled up

️

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What would make InkBox as smooth and quick loading as Nickel?

disabling all signature verification (not something I want to do) uncompressing all software packages to no compression this would increase the system size from ~3.5G to ~6G so... no, sorry (edited)

What consumes so much space?

x11

What things are you working on for 2.0?

Re-doing the entire home page (recent books, abandon file chooser, etc.)

well, I don't know much c64 things if you're trying to do a graphics demo it won't work

4:13 AM

maybe a text-based game can work

Yeah, I wanted to do that, but vice emulator or any other possible thing didn't work for various reasons

4:15 AM

At least I got it working in text mode

I just thought that was just text

actually you might be right

4:15 AM

but I'm not sure it likes that so much either

If you want more boot progress, echo true > /boot/flags/DISPLAY_DEBUG and reboot (edited)

4:27 AM

But that will consume battery, so caution

4:28 AM

Disabling KoBox speeds up the boot process a lot

SYS 32800,123,45,6 this crashes the emu

ah

4:39 AM

well, it was just a PoC extension

PRINT "HELLO WORLD" worked haha

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4:40 AM

good enough.

4:42 AM

Is there a method to boot inkbox and nickel without swapping cards?

it only exists on emmc devices and inkbox isn't intended for that

I love playing with InkBox but when I want to actually read stuff I need to go back to Nickel and feel like eventually I'm going to break the clips off this backing.

do you have a cover?

yes

you can just put it in the cover without the back

4:45 AM

in which way do you "need" to go back to Nickel?

for CBR/CBZ and wifi/beta browser to download content on the fly.

1

4:53 AM

I'll have to review as my memory is foggy but I grabbed some books and they weren't loading when I tapped them in the file manager they seemed to show up after it crashed though.

4:53 AM

epubs

? you double-click once, not more otherwise it could create unexpected... issues like, a random loop that never ends for no reason

4:54 AM

but you should switch to local storage search, works much better

4:54 AM

just type 'epub' for example and you'll get epubs in your local storage

PDF's are supported correct?

yes, and image files (.png, .jpg) too

I was trying this 145mb one think it crashed as well.

maybe you're pushing it a bit too hard...

4:56 AM

i think if the pdf weighs < 20mb you're usually safe after that it might or might not work

yeah, that's because some pdfs aren't respecting the standards on the location of the pages number in the file

4:57 AM

i plan on fixing that

It loaded after the crash but when you open it it says it’s the end of the document

'the crash', you're talking about a small ascii bomb on the screen with a qr code?

Screen just locks

maybe too much for the ram then

But yeah that's basically what I have discovered so far which work in Nickel.

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5:06 AM

Unfortunately I don't feel safe leaving the back off when the rest of the fam is using it.

5:07 AM

there's a gaping hole on the left where the binding is

5:07 AM

When you just put the cover on it.

5:07 AM

Good thought though.

Ah ok My Libra is fine in the case without the back since three months...

NonaSuomy

Good thought though.

IIRC, it originally came from @andi

tux-linux

Ah ok My Libra is fine in the case without the back since three months...

It would be fine if it was just me that uses it but little goober fingers would find their way in there while reading comics.

1

5:31 AM

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5:40 AM

sneak it out the side and hot snot it to the back of the cover then put the case over it.

tux-linux

Re-doing the entire home page (recent books, abandon file chooser, etc.)

This is the most important thing

Could inkbox run on a Sony PRS-T1?

6:15 AM

https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/8bcc2e4c

Sony PRS-T1 - Specifications

Specifications of the Sony PRS-T1. Dimensions: 110 x 173 x 8.9 mm, Weight: 164 g, SoC: Freescale i.MX508, CPU: ARM Cortex-A8, 800 MHz, RAM: 512 MB, Storage: 2 GB, Display: 6 in, E Ink Pearl, 600 x 800 pixels, Battery: 1000 mAh, Li-Ion.

Yes but no x11

6:15 AM

Lot of hard work to port it

6:15 AM

You have one?

6:16 AM

Oh it's imx508 Sweet

Serial terminal works?

6:17 AM

What Linux kernel version?

"It turns out the Sony PRS-T1 runs Android 2.2. The speed of operation on the rooted PRS-T1 is pretty quick"

Does it have a touch screen?

yes

Ok Well InkBox is not Android So ideally we will need to use Linux sources Or port it to mainline

6:33 AM

https://youtu.be/lr8-aRzdItg

The eBook Reader

Rooted Sony Reader PRS-T1 Review

6:36 AM

I wish someone made a translation layer for android apps to linux.

6:41 AM

Someone said "the kernel contains a comment in linux-2.6.35.3/drivers/usb/gadgets/fsl_udc_core.c"

Sad when you find this old stuff and all the downloads and information is broken.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329270

PRS-T1 PRS-T1 run from SD card / UART recovery from broken internal...

PRS-T1 PRS-T1 run from SD card / UART recovery from broken internal flash Sony Reader Dev Corner

7:08 AM

Someone built a Linux image for Sony devices, FWIW.

1:58 PM

I can't remember the name right now, but it's the Sony target in KOReader.

1

First getting UART to work would be nice... see the porting thread

NiLuJe

I can't remember the name right now, but it's the Sony target in KOReader.

Is KOReader only for Android or Linux as well?

Both

Does it run in InkBox?

9:09 PM

Not sure what this is in general but will leave it here http://fread.ink/

NonaSuomy

Does it run in InkBox?

...no? InkBox purpose is the same as KOReader's

Oh KOReader is a full linux build as well?

NonaSuomy

Not sure what this is in general but will leave it here http://fread.ink/

interesting?

9:14 PM

no, its an app

tux-linux

...no? InkBox purpose is the same as KOReader's

What do you mean?

9:16 PM

InkBox is trying to make an ereader app like KOReader? (edited)

yes

9:17 PM

but its an entire OS

Is KOReader QT?

Szybet

but its an entire OS

it has some adventages and minuses for this approach

9:18 PM

koreader is lua thing

Is Lua bad?

9:19 PM

Slow like said python or something?

its good i think

Does InkBox support lua currently?

Found the Sony distro: https://gitlab.com/phreakuencies/prstux/-/wikis/home (edited)

Home · Wiki · Matias N. / prstux

PRS-TUX: Linux system for Sony PRS-T* ebook readers

1

NiLuJe

Found the Sony distro: https://gitlab.com/phreakuencies/prstux/-/wikis/home (edited)

okay, so porting inkbox will be actually easy

NiLuJe

Found the Sony distro: https://gitlab.com/phreakuencies/prstux/-/wikis/home (edited)

Great job!

Any one running a debian/ubuntu based machine that can git clone the repo above and run the make from prstux and see if something tangible comes out? Requires docker as well.

9:03 AM

https://gitlab.com/phreakuencies/prstux.git

Matias N. / prstux

PRS-TUX: Linux system for Sony PRS-T* ebook readers

Thats the problem?

Did it work for you? (edited)

Szybet

Thats the problem?

oh, whats the problem?

Do you have Debian/ Ubuntu /docker running?

i could, im asking what problem did you encounter

I would have to find a machine to generate the build

you dont have a pc?

Not installed with those

just install it?

4:59 PM

you mean the OS?

Right as to why I said I would have to find a machine

4:59 PM

Yes

i dont see why it needs debian

5:00 PM

just build it on arch

5:00 PM

or run distrobox

Arch becomes a mess when you try to fit the square peg in a round hole

wtf... just build it

5:03 PM

if any error accours, then say it and we will try to help

I’ll just build another machine.

5:05 PM

Will be less of a headache

Szybet

or run distrobox

Szybet

just build it on arch

Simply just do not do that

5:21 PM

It will become a mess

5:21 PM

I always use a Debian VM for InkBox compile things

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5:22 PM

Only my toolchain for the Qt part is on my Gentoo PC, and I'm surprised it works

well, i had issues with building inkbox kernel on arch, an another arch machine it worked fine

5:22 PM

so i use a debian vm too

Szybet

or run distrobox

but still:

That could be a good idea, yes

I like how nobody seems to be interested in InkBox at MR...

Maybe its the wrong forum, not many people there are interested in linux, open source etc

6:05 PM

And inkbox isin't ready for the average person yet, but for all the fixes in 2.0 it should

6:05 PM

We should then make some "advertisements" of this project

tux-linux

Doesn't work on Kobo Nia (firmware 4.30.18838) · Issue #12 · dbeind...

what is the chance he will help? https://github.com/dbeinder/kobo-nightmode/issues/12

Hello, i've recently installed this mod but it doesn't work. I have tried everything : i have NickelMenu with KoboLauncher and they never appeared in the first place. So i edited so...

next to none

well, i tryied

9:42 PM

what is the repo for kobox? i want to create a issue there too

there isn't

9:43 PM

and it isn't the place where you should create the issue

9:43 PM

it is more related to kernel/epdc

Is the creator alive?...

creator of what?

kobox

it's me...?

okay, so how do I debug the issue on the nia :D?

you can't

9:44 PM

I have the problem on my Libra and it just happens randomly for no reason

whats the exact problem once more?

the screen freezes

and you said once about a vnc viewer in rust, how would that resolve the issue?

vncviewer is based on qt

9:45 PM

and qt is the problem

tux-linux

the screen freezes

there is no more indept data?

so the real issue is the vncviewer

tux-linux

and qt is the problem

from when

9:46 PM

:|

qt breaks too when you enable X11 even if you aren't in kobox

Szybet

there is no more indept data?

this [FBInk] [fbink_refresh] Failed to refresh the screen!

tux-linux

this [FBInk] [fbink_refresh] Failed to refresh the screen!

what causes this problem?

9:47 PM

wrong writes to the e-ink?

i said it, I don't know

Szybet

wrong writes to the e-ink?

no, it does it even when there are no writes

9:47 PM

it's just like "imma stop working now because it seems fun"

tux-linux

so the real issue is the vncviewer

how would writing another one help

at this point, the fix would be to write a proper X11 input handler for all devices

9:48 PM

the vnc viewer only handles touch input

9:48 PM

but no

9:48 PM

it wouldn't solve the problem

9:48 PM

I believe the real one is Xorg When Xorg isn't running, qt works

tux-linux

this [FBInk] [fbink_refresh] Failed to refresh the screen!

like what this error even means? nope becouse nope? or just a write to the e-ink at low level refused to send

tux-linux

at this point, the fix would be to write a proper X11 input handler for all devices

hah...

I don't know, but once it fails it fails forever

9:49 PM

until you relaunch the qt platform plugin

9:49 PM

for some reason

Szybet

hah...

but that isn't the fix

um, and niluje said anything about this?

it will improve kobox and make it faster, but won't solve the problem

9:50 PM

yes, he doesn't know how to solve it

any more detail when this error accours?

no

9:51 PM

well, it can occur when the user triggers too many refreshes (edited)

9:51 PM

but it also occurs when there isn't any refresh

i have one idea for this

9:52 PM

if this error accours, and im able to write something to the screen using plato's writing to the e-ink implementation, then what?

what are you wanting to do?

just try writing to the e-ink using plato implementation for writing to the e-ink

9:54 PM

^after the error accours

you can do that? it doesn't fail?

i want to test that

try it

will plato run oob on inkbox?...

with a chroot, yes

9:54 PM

maybe it could run in the /kobo chroot too

9:55 PM

let me try

you will acidentally port plato to inkbox ;p

this is not what i want

i know

9:56 PM

will you try the idea on your libra?

i'll try that on my glo hd

9:56 PM

i'll tell you if it works and you can try it on the nia

i dont have now time for this really

9:56 PM

okay

10:16 PM

it kinda works

10:17 PM

it thinks it's running on a Touch

10:17 PM

but anyway

10:18 PM

cp /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings-sample.toml /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings.toml
env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/libs:/mnt/onboard/.adds/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib" /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/plato

touch input is messed up too

it writes to the eink something, its important

well, i don't know if it works with the xorg bug (edited)

tux-linux

cp /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings-sample.toml /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings.toml
env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/libs:/mnt/onboard/.adds/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib" /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/plato

touch input is messed up too

touch... its device specific, i needed to test it for the nia

tux-linux

well, i don't know if it works with the xorg bug (edited)

you can try it with the libra, or i will try this next week

1

anyway, that doesn't matter we are only looking for eink drawing fixes

I would like to know if those hacky writes would not Brick the device, damage the e-ink?

10:49 PM

Ummm maybe pinging niluje?

There has been so many on the Libra that I don't fear for that anymore ;p

But those are diffrent

10:54 PM

Fbink refuses to do something, and then we do it anyway using some low level implementation

Then ping him if you want

@NiLuJe I have worries, everything is explained above

Try the fbink cli, if it works, it's an issue with the QPA

11:07 PM

FWIW, that's the ioctl failing (i.e. the kernel telling us to gtfo) (edited)

NiLuJe

FWIW, that's the ioctl failing (i.e. the kernel telling us to gtfo) (edited)

Or... not. See what FBInk's verbose output says, and strace the binary for ioctls.

11:12 PM

There should be a MXCFB_SEND_UPDATE_V2 log right before, that's the actually useful bit of logging (and it's not even verbose only) (edited)

Oh, yeah, it showed that error message too

11:13 PM

(MXC_SEND_UPDATE_V2)

What comes after is the important part ^^

1

11:14 PM

And no, you (theoretically) can't damage the screen, although given the state of the ntx epdc, never say never ;o)

NiLuJe

And no, you (theoretically) can't damage the screen, although given the state of the ntx epdc, never say never ;o)

Okay, thanks for the answer, i will try it

@NonaSuomy literally booted the Touch B image on the PRS-T1 and although things didn't display correctly (but still did), the display was not damaged when booting on the Sony software after

1

He did it

11:16 PM

What a risky man

It did make a weird whining sound though. It blanked the screen twice and just showed the Sony loading bar and never moved forward. I’m guessing it gets this splash loading bar from the initial boot partition on the eMMC and not from the SDCard then passes it off to the SDCard which then loads the loading bar sequence. (edited)

IIRC, it's the same ioctls anyway

11:17 PM

(and/or the kindle ones, can't recall)

New KoBox extension available: XBoard+Fruit-2.1 (or How-To-Lose-At-Chess)! https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4216273&postcount=70 (edited)

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1

3:48 AM

Now I just need to learn how to play chess

1

Soo I was able to run syncthing on the kobo with inkbox using syncthing-linux-arm-v1.19.2 , I opened the page on another machine, synced my books, everything works

8:24 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

8:25 PM

it says that it doesnt synced but it actually does

really?

8:25 PM

nice

i think a small app where its launching it, says the ip address etc would be a cool thing (edited)

hmm

its too complicated to do a full app arround it, and showing the website on the kobo also will be bulky

8:30 PM

also im writing it to /kobo/mnt/onboard/onboard, but it only has 500Mb, how do i increase it?

8:30 PM

i thought it will magically inrease it when i connect usb storage, but no

you need to dd if=/dev/zero of=/data/storage/onboard bs=1M count=number-of-M-you-want

Szybet

Soo I was able to run syncthing on the kobo with inkbox using syncthing-linux-arm-v1.19.2 , I opened the page on another machine, synced my books, everything works

syncing word saves, anki decks is also possible

no easy way to increase it

can i do this on the kobo / will my files be still there?

8:31 PM

no to both?

yes / no

oh

8:32 PM

okay i will sync it once more

you can restore them afterwards

8:32 PM

make squashfs backup or tarball

you could increase it while creating the image

8:32 PM

to the stock memory of the device

maybe

Love this project, I've been waiting to find something like this for years and just installed. Have one hiccup on my N905B. The file explorer doesn't resize and so I can't select the document folder when I open the reader. Anyone know a fix? Tried GUI resizing and disabling with no success. Have to reset each time.

Double-click to open a book

8:53 PM

Or you can use the local storage search function to open books too

This will be fixed in 2.0 with a rewrite of this part of the reader as there is absolutely no way to solve this problem

Alight, thanks for the work around. Really appreciate your work. Great stuff m8

1

thats the most popular issue

1

tux-linux

you need to dd if=/dev/zero of=/data/storage/onboard bs=1M count=number-of-M-you-want

no, not really

9:18 PM

kobo:/kobo/mnt/onboard/onboard# du -h /data/storage/onboard 
9.8G    /data/storage/onboard

?

kobo:/kobo/mnt/onboard/onboard# df -h /kobo/mnt/onboard/onboard/
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
fuse-overlayfs  115M   68M   39M  64% /kobo/mnt/onboard/onboard

mkfs.vfat onboard too

9:19 PM

then reboot

mkfs.vfat /kobo/mnt/onboard/onboard ?

9:20 PM

or the image

9:20 PM

hmm

the file itself

now it works

9:50 PM

perfectly, no errors

1

tux-linux

cp /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings-sample.toml /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings.toml
env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/libs:/mnt/onboard/.adds/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib" /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/plato

touch input is messed up too

For plato

oh okay

12:29 AM

but look at #porting kobo nia

Is there a way I can change the UI scaling once I’ve already set it?

you mean the one in settings?

I think so? Everything is a bit cramped (even in book selection)

when you try to set it back, nothing happens?

I think I found the setting? (I had it set to no UI scaling

3:27 PM

Not after a reset, I’m trying a reset now…

Issue solved with a reset

i dont understand what was the issue in the first place

Imagine using a 16:9 on a 4:3, it felt a little like that

Can I upload epubs to an external sd card? Or do I need to plug this thing in?

what an external sd card? plug what?...

Can I use a secondary sd card to store epubs or do I need to plug the kobo in directly to upload epubs

your device has a second slot for a sd card?

Yup

3:49 PM

Do they not usually?

3:49 PM

All of mine do

kobo touch a b c?

A And B

oh

3:49 PM

i dont think that an external sd card is supported in inkbox

Oof

im not sure

3:50 PM

well you can implement it

But it’s a headache and plugging it into a computer is easier?

hm?

Am I better off adding epubs by connecting the kobo to my laptop?

i dont understand, english is not my first language, you can add books by plugging the kobo into your computer

Okayyy thank you!

Szybet

i dont understand, english is not my first language, you can add books by plugging the kobo into your computer

And don’t worry about it, you’re helping me out and I appreciate it

Hey! How do I add books to my kobo? I tried a few ways today, no such luck

what did you do?

Additionally, my file manager opens up larger than the screen (I can’t leave the file manager once I open it)

ChuckGPT

what did you do?

I tried drag and dropping epubs

had that same problem 2 days ago lol, you have to double click the file to add to open/add to recents

Lol

4:17 AM

Is it really that simple?

boss is working on fixing the fm window in the next release

Oh sweet!

was for me. have the B

Same here

4:18 AM

so can I leave the FM once it’s opened?

it should close its own once a file is opened. otherwise the page gets stuck and you have to hard reset - at least that was my experience

Ahh yeah, I didn’t think to open a file

ChuckGPT

had that same problem 2 days ago lol, you have to double click the file to add to open/add to recents

Ok so my books are under /.kobo/books (a folder I made myself) is that where I should put them?

I didn't think to double click - I could just make out the buttons off screen so I tried to press them with a cotton swab open

Free Radical

Ok so my books are under /.kobo/books (a folder I made myself) is that where I should put them?

should be fine, just have to double press/click the folder I think, then same for the file(s)

Testing it out right now, but I ran into another issue I have, whenever I eject the kobo it doesn’t seem to want to lose the “usb” screen

4:28 AM

So where am I looking to find these books?

4:29 AM

(Sorry, I know I keep asking basically the same question)

assuming all things equal it should be in /mnt/onboard/onboard/[folder/files]

Then I suspect I did something wrong

Free Radical

Testing it out right now, but I ran into another issue I have, whenever I eject the kobo it doesn’t seem to want to lose the “usb” screen

You need to unplug the USB cable It's written on the screen

tux-linux

You need to unplug the USB cable It's written on the screen

I know… it doesn’t seem to behave the way it is intended

ChuckGPT

should be fine, just have to double press/click the folder I think, then same for the file(s)

Yes, or use local storage search

1

Free Radical

I know… it doesn’t seem to behave the way it is intended

You are still on 1.7

4:34 AM

Update

Am I? I extracted the files to where you said to

Did you click update button after that?

OH

4:35 AM

No I did not…

It's kind of needed ...

1

Lol

4:35 AM

Yeah I bet

4:35 AM

It’s funny, I saw the button earlier when fishing around

4:35 AM

But forgot about it

Go into settings

4:35 AM

Second page Click on update

Ok will do!

1

Free Radical

Ok so my books are under /.kobo/books (a folder I made myself) is that where I should put them?

No

4:36 AM

You should put them in the root of the exported USB storage

So I “checked for updates” none appear

not that button

4:39 AM

"Update InkBox"

4:41 AM

I suspect I put the files in the wrong spot?

is there still something under onboard storage/.inkbox ?

Yeah

ok, unplug and reboot, the update dialog should show up again

Free Radical

Yeah

what something?

4:42 AM

wait

“Rootfs.squashfs” and more

what did you do?...

4:43 AM

how did they manage to get there?

With endearing clumsiness?

did you copy the .isa file or extract it?

7zip “extract to” extract to .Inkbox

whoops you need to copy them

Ahhh

remove everything there and copy .isa

Ok copying now

4:55 AM

Almost done I think

1

don't forget to eject

will do

1

5:02 AM

updating!

5:02 AM

thanks

1

well we need better instruction how to update ;D

tux-linux

cp /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings-sample.toml /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/Settings.toml
env LD_LIBRARY_PATH="${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/libs:/mnt/onboard/.adds/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib" /mnt/onboard/.adds/plato/plato

touch input is messed up too

it doesnt see the toml file anyway?...

11:12 PM

weird

Then put it in root of the chroot

11:14 PM

Idk why but it worked for me

tux-linux

Then put it in root of the chroot

still nothing really

try to strace it

kobo:/plato# env RUST_BACKTRACE=full ./plato thread 'main' panicked at 'called Result::unwrap() on an Err value: Os { code: 2, kind: NotFound, message: "No such file or directory" }', src/library.rs:62:42 stack backtrace: 0: 0x54f16e70 - <std::sys_common::backtrace::_print::DisplayBacktrace as core::fmt::Display>::fmt::hbc32816bedd649a5 1: 0x54f4349c - <unknown> 2: 0x54f10998 - <unknown> 3: 0x54f1981c - <unknown> 4: 0x54f193f0 - <unknown> 5: 0x54f19ffc - <unknown> 6: 0x54f19c2c - <unknown> 7: 0x54f173f0 - <unknown> 8: 0x54f199c0 - <unknown> 9: 0x54b8e3a8 - <unknown> 10: 0x54b8e47c - <unknown> 11: 0x54c416fc - <unknown> 12: 0x54dd34d0 - <unknown> 13: 0x54d7933c - <unknown> 14: 0x54d4c7f8 - <unknown> 15: 0x54f16508 - <unknown> 16: 0x54d37024 - main 17: 0x75cf8d3c - __libc_start_main

It's maybe missing some libs

11:18 PM

I had this error too but don't remember what was needed to fix it

could you look up history?

11:19 PM

it should be saved in chroot

It wasn't in the chroot iirc

11:19 PM

Maybe I'll check later when I have some time

Just Strace It (TM)

https://github.com/baskerville/plato/issues/224

[question] emulator does not start, filesystem errors · Issue #224 ...

I built the emulator using docker, when i try to run it is says: thread 'main' panicked at 'called Result::unwrap() on an Err value: Os { code: 2, kind: NotFound, messag...

11:22 PM

i had this issue with plato emulator

11:22 PM

i still dont know how to solve it xD

11:27 PM

mkdir /mnt/sd to solve this

11:27 PM

Can't update [0, 0, 758, 1024]: can't send framebuffer update: EPERM: Operation not permitted. the same error (edited)

11:27 PM

no luck with that

Szybet

mkdir /mnt/sd to solve this

oh yes it was that

11:28 PM

don't know why it requires it that much

https://github.com/93null/tauri-web-browser maybe this browser? it is lightweight

GitHub - 93null/tauri-web-browser: Tauri/Rust minimal proof-of-conc...

Tauri/Rust minimal proof-of-concept for rendering iframe-prohibited content and performing browser automation. - GitHub - 93null/tauri-web-browser: Tauri/Rust minimal proof-of-concept for rendering...

Did you see what back-end it uses?!

5:18 PM

That's probably not compilable and everything but lightweight

1

yea, rust

Microsoft Edge webdriver

5:19 PM

But rust would also be difficult to compile

tux-linux

But rust would also be difficult to compile

plato

tux-linux

Microsoft Edge webdriver

i didn't saw this D:

What is the Yocto Project https://community.nxp.com/t5/i-MX-Processors/Yocto-chromium-integration-to-run-on-iMX6/td-p/555148 (edited)

Yocto chromium integration to run on iMX6

Hello Here is my issue in brief I am trying to integrate chromium browser to my Yocto build using open embedded recipe from meta-browser layer, but my build fails with following error message ERROR: The recipe imx-gpu-viv is trying to install files into a shared area when those files already exi...

5:23 PM

https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/IMX_YOCTO_PROJECT_USERS_GUIDE.pdf

5:25 PM

No iMX.5 though… maybe not someone saying mx53 they were trying to compile for (edited)

5:31 PM

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/main

main lists.yoctoproject.org Group

Yocto Project™ | An open source collaboration project of the Linux Foundation The Yocto Project™ is an open source collaboration project that helps developers create custom Linux-based systems regardless of the hardware architecture. * If you are interested in membership, please visit https://www.yoctoproject.org/how-to-join/ * If you are inte...

5:33 PM

https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-freescale

meta-freescale lists.yoctoproject.org Group

Usage and development list for the meta-fsl-* layers

Hello my friends!

9:22 AM

I just successfully got inkbox on my kobo

3

Nice

luːk

Hello my friends!

Which device did you install on?

NonaSuomy

Which device did you install on?

Kobo Nia!

WOW!

1

Unfortunately i've discovered it is extremely laggy

you are the 4 person on the internet that uses this device

luːk

Unfortunately i've discovered it is extremely laggy

i have a kobo nia, even ported inkbox to it. what is laggy exactly?

12:01 AM

and what version did you install (edited)

Szybet

i have a kobo nia, even ported inkbox to it. what is laggy exactly?

I have version 1.9 and what seems to be laggy is loading up the reader, transition between sleeping and not-sleeping. and the X11 subsystem

X11 is laggy becouse of the cpu, we can't do anything about it ( wait, isint X11 freezing after some time? ) loading up? you mean after reboot? going to sleep is slow, it will be completly rewritten for 2.0. If you want, i already done a better version you can install on your device (edited)

Szybet

X11 is laggy becouse of the cpu, we can't do anything about it ( wait, isint X11 freezing after some time? ) loading up? you mean after reboot? going to sleep is slow, it will be completly rewritten for 2.0. If you want, i already done a better version you can install on your device (edited)

I mean after reboot

its becouse its loading X11, its heavy

I'd love to install a better version on my device

do you have a rooted device?

I understand, shall live with X11 being slow

12:05 AM

Im unsure!

so propably not

I just flashed the firmware onto a sd card

so you need to root it

12:05 AM

there is propably a guide on the wiki

I shall look for a guide

( wait, isint X11 freezing after some time? )

12:06 AM

do you encounter freezes?

i do!

and you need to reboot?

yep

12:06 AM

thats the most frustrating

we cant do anything about it, we haven't figured what is causing this bug, its affecting nia and libra devices

Oh gotcha!

12:08 AM

I guess i should expect this for a experimental OS

you can avoid the issue ( not in 100% ) by enabling wifi, plugging it into power source and setting cpu governor to performance

12:08 AM

but it would be best to disable x11

luːk

I guess i should expect this for a experimental OS

not really experimental, X11 works on other devices fine

1

12:10 AM

@tux-linux look! the 4 person on the internet that is using kobo nia, and the second using inkbox

Szybet

not really experimental, X11 works on other devices fine

I meant because I had chosen to use a different OS by downloading it off the internet :p

the stock one doesn't have x11 at all ;p

Im guessing kobo would have a massive team ironing out bugs

12:11 AM

true!

luːk

Im guessing kobo would have a massive team ironing out bugs

yea, for inkbox its only one person, and 3 persons helping a bit

I shall disable x11 for the moment. would there be an app that can access wikipedia? I have a wikipedia addiction you see

1. You can write your own qt app 2. You can fork an existing app and adjust it for inkbox 3. just download pdfs of wikipedia

Szybet

1. You can write your own qt app 2. You can fork an existing app and adjust it for inkbox 3. just download pdfs of wikipedia

So for now i have no knowledge of what qt nor how to fork. but im happy to explore. the magic of open-source is that i can learn and fiddle

12:16 AM

on koreader, they had the ability to load up a wiki epub on any work

12:17 AM

https://github.com/koreader/koreader/wiki/Wikipedia-support

Wikipedia support · koreader/koreader Wiki

An ebook reader application supporting PDF, DjVu, EPUB, FB2 and many more formats, running on Cervantes, Kindle, Kobo, PocketBook and Android devices - Wikipedia support · koreader/koreader Wiki

luːk

So for now i have no knowledge of what qt nor how to fork. but im happy to explore. the magic of open-source is that i can learn and fiddle

Qt is easy to learn... is easy to use, i have written an app within a month

oh nifty!

luːk

https://github.com/koreader/koreader/wiki/Wikipedia-support

oh, i think there is something like that in inkbox

12:18 AM

not sure

thats okay! i shall focus on school for a moment!

12:18 AM

I shall be back to discuss

Szybet

Qt is easy to learn... is easy to use, i have written an app within a month

*Qt is easy to learn, hard to use

Szybet

oh, i think there is something like that in inkbox

? (edited)

luːk

I shall disable x11 for the moment. would there be an app that can access wikipedia? I have a wikipedia addiction you see

web browser (netsurf, in X11) (edited)

Szybet

@tux-linux look! the 4 person on the internet that is using kobo nia, and the second using inkbox

the second using inkbox? no, there are more people than that

luːk

I shall look for a guide

Reboot into diagnostics Reset options -> Reset as root

tux-linux

Reboot into diagnostics Reset options -> Reset as root

Im unsure how to reboot into diagnostics, to be quite honest

reboot the device immediately after the light starts blinking, press the power button multiple times and wait (edited)

5:07 AM

make a backup of your books or anything you have on the device, it will be erased

okay! Is 5 times acceptable as multiple times?

yes

5:07 AM

you could also do it one time, but it would decrease the chances of the device actually recognizing it

Sweet it worked, im loading diagnostics

1

5:10 AM

Do you think the Onboard storage size would be talking about the size of the sdcard?

no, the space you have for storing your books

Im unsure what space i have allocated for books, would you say 64 MiB is reasonable? (edited)

no, it won't be enough for updates

5:12 AM

put at least 256

5:12 AM

maybe 128m would work, but I'd rather take 256

okay!

5:12 AM

I'll 256 a shot. thanks for being clear and patient with me.

np

5:15 AM

note: reset can take from 10 to 20 mins

"Restoring", sweet!

1

so don't think it's not doing anything

I shall be patient

1

5:17 AM

Is there a good strategy to reduce the amount of glitching that happens. Sometimes things freeze and stay half printed on the screen. For example, the brightness menu is stuck in the middle of the screen.

what do you mean, stuck in the middle of the screen?

It looks like its half glitched in the middle of the screen. As if it didnt want to fully disappear after closing.

5:19 AM

It happens with the file explorer menu

5:19 AM

too

please post a picture once the device has finished restoring

For sure!

@Szybet , you should know about this?...

It no longer says "restoring", it has now been stuck on 'InkBox' in big letters.

5:36 AM

Is that something i should be patient for too?

it means it has finished

5:37 AM

you can start it (power it on) (edited)

Oh!

Out of curiosity does using balenaEtcher remove the original kobo nia sd image?

6:19 AM

Im concerned if I ever feel like i want to change back, i cant.

what do you mean?

I am to understand when I flashed the "InkBox OS" to my SD card it put a new OS onto the sim card. Im curious to know if I can still switch back and forth from the Original OS image and the InkBox OS?

If you did backup your origninal SD card, yes

6:54 AM

Otherwise, also yes, but it's more difficult

I did not back it up :/ Im glad I didnt brick my device

6:56 AM

Would I have to dig through the files to recover the recovery partition?

you can't, you erased it

Ah!

you need to request a sd image for the nia at MR

I see!

6:59 AM

Thats okay, I am satisfied with InkBox. I will make it more user friendly for myself, Szybet has a fix for the frigid transition between sleeping and not-sleeping

tux-linux

@Szybet , you should know about this?...

I think he is meaning how e-ink works, that it doesnt refrrsh in 100% and the old window is visible a bit Maybe, a photo explaining that would be nice

I shall take a photo when It occurs

7:04 AM

Also I have rooted my device!

tux-linux

you need to request a sd image for the nia at MR

I can provide it if its really needed, good that the screen works for you with mine waveshare Still this was very stupid by not backing it up...

Szybet

I can provide it if its really needed, good that the screen works for you with mine waveshare Still this was very stupid by not backing it up...

*waveform, but yes

luːk

Also I have rooted my device!

Do you "can into linux" and how much?

tux-linux

*waveform, but yes

Yes

Is there risks to sharing SD Images?

A bit

1

I see. Also, I'm unsure what you mean by "can into linux" so I would I do not.

7:10 AM

Im happy to research, if its a researchable thing.

Can use linux, the CLI, etc

I can a small bit! I'm not super knowledgeable by all means.

7:12 AM

I've just played around with it through a VM and i ssh'd in.

7:12 AM

thats all

luːk

Is there risks to sharing SD Images?

Also, @tux-linux did you erased mine nickel device ID from the image?

yes inkbox overwrites it

7:13 AM

and I already did that before too

Good, thanks

1

luːk

thats all

Well okay, do you have a machinę with linux on it?

Szybet

Well okay, do you have a machinę with linux on it?

I shall check if i still have it downloaded!

7:17 AM

I have it downloaded! Though i shall reset the user passwd swifty.

Get a working one and launch it, it can be a vm

also for the nia, if you try put it to slepp, but touch the screen will it go back to menu?

tux-linux

? (edited)

word searching

tux-linux

the second using inkbox? no, there are more people than that

i mean with the nia

1

Szybet

word searching

It's not really Wikipedia...

but its similar (edited)

Szybet

also for the nia, if you try put it to slepp, but touch the screen will it go back to menu?

I shall check, I had dissapeared last night.

Szybet

also for the nia, if you try put it to slepp, but touch the screen will it go back to menu?

No it does not go back to the menu when its put to sleep

If you touch it instantly, all the time?

Nope, it just stays on "sleeping"

Szybet

Get a working one and launch it, it can be a vm

Also i got my linux vm machine working!

1:22 AM

I couldnt find the vhdx file

@tux-linux are you able to add a second loading boot animation? The Sony first does the loading bar then it shows a rotational arrow circle. Not sure what it's doing between your boot animation and the home screen showing up but still takes some questionable time where you are unsure if the device is just locked up or what. (edited)

luːk

Nope, it just stays on "sleeping"

weird... @tux-linux do you see it?

8:11 AM

maybe my unit is broken?

luːk

Also i got my linux vm machine working!

install nano,wget, unzip, curl, git, sshfs on it

Szybet

maybe my unit is broken?

Why don't you try reinstalling stuff?

8:12 AM

Use a faster sdcard while you at it

Raycast [THCoH]

Why don't you try reinstalling stuff?

i did this so many times that the sd card is propably broken

A faster sdcard made the menus load much faster

Also i did the port for the nia... so

Raycast [THCoH]

A faster sdcard made the menus load much faster

interesting

You did?

8:14 AM

Nice

yea

8:14 AM

you have a nia too?

Yep

can you test / tell me those things? 1. With x11 enabled, does it freeze sometimes? 2. when you go to sleep and touch the screen, will it go back from sleep? 3. battery is worse on inkbox propably? 4. how did you open the nia? with what tool?

1. No problems with freezing, only need to put it in standby while loading kobox and then get it out of standby cuz otherwise loading takes longer I guess 2. No 3. Battery usage sucks, used about 5% in around 10 minutes I guess 4. A plastic card from one of the stores near my house (I'll send a picture)

8:20 AM

1. w h a t 2. wtf 3. yea this needs a fix/ 4. cool way

8:21 AM

how much did you used x11?

A bit

8:21 AM

Imma go to school now

test it more if you can

8:21 AM

sure

Sure

8:22 AM

Need to make a clean installation first tho

8:22 AM

I wiped my SD cuz I wanted to compare the performance of the original os and inkbox

Szybet

weird... @tux-linux do you see it?

It's just doing what it's supposed to do

so what is wrong with my nia?

The x11 sleep/wake fix works on the Libra too; I think I mentioned it earlier. You should try it on your Nia

which one?

1:00 PM

what?

Szybet

so what is wrong with my nia?

Probably the SD card, can't see anything else

w h a t?

Szybet

which one?

When it freezes, put it to sleep Then wake it up

the sd card is broken, so the screen will wake up when touched ( only when going to sleep )

1:01 PM

i already tryied that... 3 month ago

Idk, corrupted libs or something then

i flashed the image you made

1:02 PM

i can make badblocks test on the sd card ._ .

You should

it would show errors if anything was wrong

Maybe he tested it while plugged in or something

it was happening to me even with this

1:06 PM

but with less frequency

1:10 PM

https://sites.google.com/site/gibekm/hardware/kobo/kobo-as-tablet

mgibek - Kobo as a Linux tablet

I've successfully installed Debian Jessie (and previously Ubuntu 13.04) on my Kobo Touch e-book reader. Almost all apps are running (games, utils, etc). To do it I needed to: repartition original SD card (I replaced it with bigger one) make following changes in kernel's source code: for eInk

Yes?

just a interesting link

1

https://github.com/plateaukao/browser

GitHub - plateaukao/browser: An Android web browser based on webvie...

An Android web browser based on webview, which is specialized for E-Ink device. - GitHub - plateaukao/browser: An Android web browser based on webview, which is specialized for E-Ink device.

11:18 PM

You starred it

11:18 PM

everything fine but:

11:18 PM

crap

11:18 PM

such a cool project

Szybet

You starred it

Yes, it was not to implement it in InkBox Just a cool thing out there

kinda sad that it will be not ;/

It's for Android in the first place, so no

Szybet

install nano,wget, unzip, curl, git, sshfs on it

Alright! shall do

Just installing sshfs and we should be all sweet. Done (edited)

12:40 AM

im not familiar with using curl or sshfs, though im sure using the manual i should be good.

Szybet

https://github.com/plateaukao/browser

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/native-overview.html#target-platforms

Kotlin Native | Kotlin

4:24 AM

“Kotlin/Native is primarily designed to allow compilation for platforms on which virtual machines are not desirable or possible, such as embedded devices or iOS. It is ideal for situations when a developer needs to produce a self-contained program that does not require an additional runtime or virtual machine.”

i dont think it will work

It won't work

8:10 AM

Cuz no system WebView

8:11 AM

That's a android thing

that too

Still waiting for a doom port

8:12 AM

Or maybe even dosbox if possible

you can do it

8:14 AM

you know

I indeed know

8:15 AM

But I'm lazy

Raycast [THCoH]

Still waiting for a doom port

This has the lowest priority ever Don't expect things soon...

Raycast [THCoH]

Still waiting for a doom port

Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VYMZ59oJ6g

JJ Dasher

Doom II running on 5.83" 3 color ePaper / eInk display salvaged fro...

3:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0apFspOlK10

Charbax

Play Doom on an E-ink screen

3:27 PM

http://www.mobileread.mobi/forums/showthread.php?t=128908&page=2

Raycast [THCoH]

Cuz no system WebView

https://medium.com/@sreeharikv112/communication-from-webview-to-native-ios-android-app-6d842cefe02d

Communication from WebView to Native iOS/ Android App

One of the most common use case in native mobile apps development is sending and receiving data from WebView to native and vice versa…

What is the problem with webkit on the kobo?

3:36 PM

That it doesnt work

The only problem is always the limitation of peoples mind to complete something. (edited)

3:40 PM

They will always find a million ways why they can't do something instead of just doing the work and making it happen. Alas time constraints and priorities kills everything indefinitely like entropy.

Or glibc is too old

3:42 PM

:p

3:42 PM

But seriously?

If you had all the time in the world you could backport anything to your glibc version

So to port webkit to kobo we need to find a way to not die from old age

2

3:46 PM

Please let me know if you succeed with the second part of that statement.

3:52 PM

Maybe just try to make a stupid simple implementation of it. Grab one of those quick examples and see what happens.

3:52 PM

https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.5/qtwebkitexamples-webkitwidgets-fancybrowser-example.html

3:53 PM

https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.5/qtwebkitexamples-index.html

3:54 PM

All you need is a box to type a url then puke out a page.

3:55 PM

Walk the webkit version backwards until you find one that works.

3:58 PM

https://prodgpl.blob.core.windows.net/download/Audio/common/hJsWqVCRMu1Ptka9i6waUw/webkit-sony-20140625.tar.gz

3:58 PM

rip that apart then bump the webkit version forward until it breaks.

3:59 PM

Says Webkit-5.0.328

Szybet

Or glibc is too old

WebKit will work but only on X11 AFAIK and it has outdated web standards, which make most websites unusable, like in Nickel built-in browser

5:24 PM

It has been replaced by Qt WebEngine But that requires higher glibc=>higher kernel

5:27 PM

It also doesn't work on newer devices because of the hardware bug we talked about earlier

5:28 PM

I'm still trying to compile pale Moon, got some compile errors, hopefully I'll be able to fix that soon

What does that browser use that you already have running?

What do you mean?

5:32 PM

Pale Moon worked on a Debian chroot with higher glibc, but that only works on devices with kernel >4.1.15 So I'm trying to compile it for musl/Alpine with a working setup

NonaSuomy

Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VYMZ59oJ6g

Isn't running on Ereader hardware 0/10

NonaSuomy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0apFspOlK10

Runs on Ereader hardware 10/10

NonaSuomy

https://medium.com/@sreeharikv112/communication-from-webview-to-native-ios-android-app-6d842cefe02d

Won't run on ereader

kobo:~# uname -a
Linux kobo 3.0.35-inkbox #1 PREEMPT Thu May 12 00:57:03 EDT 2022 armv7l GNU/Linux
kobo:~# node
Welcome to Node.js v18.1.0.
Type ".help" for more information.
> .help
.break    Sometimes you get stuck, this gets you out
.clear    Alias for .break
.editor   Enter editor mode
.exit     Exit the REPL
.help     Print this help message
.load     Load JS from a file into the REPL session
.save     Save all evaluated commands in this REPL session to a file

Press Ctrl+C to abort current expression, Ctrl+D to exit the REPL
>

Yay, node.js works on InkBox OS (edited)

1

I don’t know if this will help you but someone said that most ereaders and embedded processor Linux builds don’t know to turn on iCache says it really speeds up booting for what it’s worth.

7:24 AM

i may stand for instruction… cache

tux-linux

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Ascii art snake very nice!

1:37 PM

Does it work in 2.6?

what can we run with node?

Everything

i dont use node even on my main pc

1:37 PM

so?

1:37 PM

everything i know written with node is too heavy

What do you know that is written in node?

the only app i know ( and use ) that uses node is joplin (edited)

1:39 PM

well except browsers, maybe they use it

NonaSuomy

Does it work in 2.6?

it should (edited)

And what do you plan to do with it?

To use something like this https://npm.io/package/epub-cover-extractor

Epub-cover-extractor NPM | npm.io

Check Epub-cover-extractor 1.0.3 package - Last release 1.0.3 with MIT licence at our NPM packages aggregator and search engine.

I hope it will be not launched every inkbox launch

No, I plan to readahead on it or something

I will also add git in the rootfs since npm needs it

Hey @Szybet, do you notice your nia having a really short battery life when using this OS?

Yes, he's planning to fix it

Oh sweet! I kept getting a warning saying that the device is incredibly low, and that i need to charge ASAP to avoid damage

4:00 AM

I'll be a patient lad, with this one.

4:00 AM

Thanks for letting me know.

luːk

Oh sweet! I kept getting a warning saying that the device is incredibly low, and that i need to charge ASAP to avoid damage

Ok it went that bad

4:00 AM

It discharges that fast?

4:01 AM

Theoretically if you don't power off before the battery hits 0% the device may be bricked forever

It sure does! and I'm not even using it (as im finding it laggy). Its just in idle position, and after a couple days it leaks all the way to zero.

tux-linux

Theoretically if you don't power off before the battery hits 0% the device may be bricked forever

fuck.

Well, forever minus powering it with 3.3V serial and USB, it can work

4:02 AM

But it's not straightforward

luːk

It sure does! and I'm not even using it (as im finding it laggy). Its just in idle position, and after a couple days it leaks all the way to zero.

No sleep mode?

tux-linux

No sleep mode?

Yeah it has been sitting in sleep mode

It's that laggy?

Yeah, i find myself waiting more than actually reading

4:10 AM

The things that I've noticed being the most laggy is the reader (file manager), settings, internet connection, sleep transition and book configurations (like, font size and other settings). I dont want to rant about my issues but more give you an insight to help with development.

1

tux-linux

Theoretically if you don't power off before the battery hits 0% the device may be bricked forever

OH damn

it happened with my Touch C but it is possible to power it on with a multimeter, 3.3vcc and an USB cable somehow

epub-parser node.js extension working on the Kobo! (edited)

1

You can't just scrape that out with sh script?

6:34 AM

or it's some kind of encrypted format or something

It's REALLY complicated You'd have to do some serious regex that would only work on certain books and in certain circumstances

tux-linux

Theoretically if you don't power off before the battery hits 0% the device may be bricked forever

What the fuck

6:35 AM

What

luːk

Hey @Szybet, do you notice your nia having a really short battery life when using this OS?

It is, but first its not that bad and i will fix it

1

it was almost true on my touch; don't know about the nia

But why

Do I look like I know?

6:36 AM

;p

Szybet

It is, but first its not that bad and i will fix it

Sadly i cant write the sleep deamon

6:37 AM

My only quess is that the battery: 1 doesnt charge becouse the controller is to weak on the kobo 2 it locked himself up

6:37 AM

Can you measure the voltage on the battery?

6:38 AM

With a multimeter

My theory was:

Not enough power to power the PMIC to charge it when USB is connected
Not enough power to power the PMIC to actually power on the device when USB is connected

When bursted with USB+3.3V it finally powers up (also half-frying my rpi, but a reboot fixes it) (edited)

Well frying only the 3.3 regulator on the pi (edited)

Szybet

With a multimeter

Not on the battery On the serial ports, the voltages with USB initially plugged in are about 1.8V When I give it a burst of 3.3V via VCC, it has enough energy to power on and it powers on, serial ports stay at 3.3V

Some times with lithium ion batteries they just take a really long time on the charger to fix when they go to zero

6:39 AM

I've had that before

that one is just dead...

Can you just measure the voltage on the battery?

Just leave them overnight and the next day the battery randomly works again.

NonaSuomy

Some times with lithium ion batteries they just take a really long time on the charger to fix when they go to zero

This too

NonaSuomy

Just leave them overnight and the next day the battery randomly works again.

I must have left it a week

ok shot in the dark

Szybet

Can you just measure the voltage on the battery?

can't right now, sorry maybe tomorrow really late here

Sure

6:41 AM

Don't make a short, you can even start a fire with it

i must have made it more than 30 times and nothing

I mean while measuring the voltage

oh

6:42 AM

ok

do I add python in the main rootfs and get a 99.05MB one or I don't and I get a 87MB one?

No.

7:00 AM

Python will be removed from inkbox

hm, I guess node can do most of the stuff python would be tailored for, if not even better

Yes

7:01 AM

I can accept node but not python

7:01 AM

How much space takes it?

7:01 AM

( node )

7:02 AM

Can' you add it t p4? P3 is already too small

it's about 14M

Add it to p4

no

7:03 AM

it's not upgradable via the update.sh script

Installing some packages on p3 is already hard

tux-linux

it's not upgradable via the update.sh script

Why

because...? a year ago I did not think I would have come to install system binaries into an user data partition (edited)

7:03 AM

even if I added it now it would cause a problem

You already have Qt on p4

yes, it's only update.isa that is updated

And why cant you include node there

because first all things in update.isa are mounted in a chroot second, it would make no sense

Szybet

Installing some packages on p3 is already hard

maybe a good solution would be to allow a root filesystem to be mounted via nfs on boot

tux-linux

because first all things in update.isa are mounted in a chroot second, it would make no sense

Why do you need node on the main system

to extract epub covers, but also for other things in the future, it might be useful

tux-linux

maybe a good solution would be to allow a root filesystem to be mounted via nfs on boot

Yes, this makes more sense

like a debug dev server via http, etc.

It can be done via chroot

7:07 AM

Pushing everything to p3 when it has no space is not a good idea

tux-linux

maybe a good solution would be to allow a root filesystem to be mounted via nfs on boot

Thats a good compromise

without python, rootfs is at 87.59mb

7:08 AM

that's 336M of compressed data

7:09 AM

node binary is 67M but when compressed it amounts to ~19M

Szybet

Thats a good compromise

Well okay but this could be good for the future

yes maybe you could implement it

Maybe

or maybe I can and you do the sleep thing

It doesnt sound hard but i didn't did somethine like that before

tux-linux

or maybe I can and you do the sleep thing

Yes, i want to write it anyway

the power management daemon is way harder than rootfs mounting via nfs

Its just asynchronic script written in cpp right?

Well, ok, you can write it:

In CPP/Go/C/some compiled language; needs to be lightweight
Commented code (I'm not good at this, but anyways), or at least, functions that are clear and/or make sense (not good at this either haha)
Needs to follow current sleep splashes and design guidelines
Needs to handle critical battery alerts, to replace battery_watchdog (splashes for those are in /etc/images)
Needs to handle idle sleep
Needs to handle Wi-Fi modules loading/unloading on-demand, ideally without kernel panics hehe

(edited)

7:16 AM

I will follow the development and suggest changes if I see something useful to add (edited)

Sure

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7:16 AM

I will try to write in cpp but if i get angry i will use rust

rust is not really something you can use on alpine (edited)

7:16 AM

it isn't in the package repositories

How do i show alerts?

so you have to build it from source...

7:17 AM

fbink -g file=/etc/images/n306-battery_critical.png

7:17 AM

c.f. /etc/init.d/battery_watchdog (edited)

tux-linux

fbink -g file=/etc/images/n306-battery_critical.png

It could be overwritten by the GUI by accident

I prevented that hehe

7:17 AM

rm /dev/fb0

tux-linux

so you have to build it from source...

I will handle this. Its easier than cpp really

tux-linux

I prevented that hehe

XD but then it will not be able to refresh the screen

it's fine, it's going to power off after...

OH ok

                BT_LEVEL=$(cat "${SYSFS_PATH}/capacity")
                if [ ${BT_LEVEL} -le 5 ]; then
                        "${FBINK}" -k -f -q
                        sleep 0.5
                        "${FBINK}" -k -f -q
                        sleep 0.5
                        "${FBINK}" -q -g file="${IMAGES_PATH}/${DEVICE}-battery_critical.png"
                        sleep 0.5
                        "${FBINK}" -q -s -f
                        # Prevent other processes from printing over what we just showed on the screen
                        rm -f /dev/fb0
                        /sbin/poweroff no_splash

7:21 AM

So I will implement rootfs nfs mount at boot and you can do the sleep daemon

7:22 AM

Actually maybe node would be something half-great for that job Since it's based on async events

7:22 AM

But probably too slow as the initial interpreter bringup takes about 30s After that, it's fast

OH god 30 seconda

Well, it's 1x30s Average launch time after that is 1-2s

Szybet

It is, but first its not that bad and i will fix it

I appreciate your dedication.

1

Is there logs i can snapshot to help with debugging?

Help in what specificly?

Perhaps to help with identification of what causes my device to lag and lose battery.

There are propably ways in linux to measure that

11:26 AM

What lag? The x11 one?

Re: dead batteries

5:18 PM

A night in a freezer was known to jolt dead Kindles awake back in the day

Interesting

Just, don't forget it in there, and give it time to warm up to avoid condensation

1

5:19 PM

(And, yeah, keeping it plugged to a real DCP charger for days after that) (edited)

1

NiLuJe

A night in a freezer was known to jolt dead Kindles awake back in the day

What is the behind the scenes process for this?

5:28 PM

Would charging the battery with a external good charger solve the issue?

Temperature and chemistry magic in the battery mix, I would assume

6:56 PM

I don't quite remember the details, there's possibly something smart to do to avoid condensation, too (putting it in a ziploc bag, maybe?) (edited)

i think that the charger on ereaders is too weak to recharge the battery when it is abaout 3 Volts

Szybet

What lag? The x11 one?

The things that I've noticed being the most laggy is the reader (file manager), settings, internet connection, sleep transition and book configurations (like, font size and other settings).

1 file manager is being slowly replaced, its crap we all know that 2 settings... you mean? 3 internet connection: speed or? 4 sleeping manager can be fixed now ( with the one i writed ), and will bre replaced with a better one in the future 5 its cpu limited ( or maybe bad coded, idk ) (edited)

Szybet

1 file manager is being slowly replaced, its crap we all know that 2 settings... you mean? 3 internet connection: speed or? 4 sleeping manager can be fixed now ( with the one i writed ), and will bre replaced with a better one in the future 5 its cpu limited ( or maybe bad coded, idk ) (edited)

1 Sweet! 2 The settings menu, the one opened when you press the cog on the main menu 3 Connecting to, staying connected and using the internet menu. Im unsure about speed because I have nothing that can use it. 4 Oh for real? I got the linux vm setup, so i can try fix that. 5 Im not sure either. Once I get a SD image, I might jump back into the original OS just to read some books. Though I'll definitely still be jumping back and forth.

Please don't flash the image back and forth It will only make your device slower

12:41 AM

Buy another microSD card

tux-linux

Please don't flash the image back and forth It will only make your device slower

Thank you for that tip!

Just use two separate sdcards

I'll have an array of SD cards!

2 in what way 3 connecting to well @tux-linux, staying connected is slow?, internet menu -> gutenberg library? 4 do you can use openrc on linux?

I'm using a 128gb sdcard for the Kobo os and a 64gb sdcard for inkbox

luːk

Thank you for that tip!

Read about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Memory_wear

I'm keeping the original sdcard as clean as possible

Raycast [THCoH]

I'm using a 128gb sdcard for the Kobo os and a 64gb sdcard for inkbox

God damn

Using a u3 sdcard speeds inkbox up a lot

Szybet

2 in what way 3 connecting to well @tux-linux, staying connected is slow?, internet menu -> gutenberg library? 4 do you can use openrc on linux?

it should not be slow gutenberg sync takes time... but it's syncing, give it time

Szybet

2 in what way 3 connecting to well @tux-linux, staying connected is slow?, internet menu -> gutenberg library? 4 do you can use openrc on linux?

2 I press an option (for example "▢ Always show status bar") and it freezes and I wait 10 seconds the screen refreshes and than the option gets selected. I imagine its just a slow device. 3 I mean the device does stay connected (after a moment of being connected it seems to just disconnect), By the "Internet Menu" I mean the menu used to connect to the internet. 4 Im not familiar with openRC though is this something I should learn?

tux-linux

Read about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Memory_wear

Thank you! I shall indeed read about this.

1

luːk

2 I press an option (for example "▢ Always show status bar") and it freezes and I wait 10 seconds the screen refreshes and than the option gets selected. I imagine its just a slow device. 3 I mean the device does stay connected (after a moment of being connected it seems to just disconnect), By the "Internet Menu" I mean the menu used to connect to the internet. 4 Im not familiar with openRC though is this something I should learn?

WHOA Ok, your device has a problem

tux-linux

WHOA Ok, your device has a problem

12:49 AM

When i was on the other OS it was satisfactory

4. look up some tutorials, and tommorow ping me at #porting kobo nia thread and we will install this on your device

1

but 10s is way too slow, right @Szybet ? (edited)

i will test it now

12:51 AM

wait

ok

it works perfectly

12:51 AM

weird

12:52 AM

can you record that? @luːk

12:52 AM

its something that can be fix propably

Szybet

can you record that? @luːk

Record the lag?

yes

Ill give it a shot.

strace it. That looks suspiciously like the Libra issue with the mxcfb wait_for ioctls timing out. (edited)

in that case, it would only hang forever

Nope, 10s is the timeout ;o)

then my Libra is not having the same issue

1:04 AM

Did we discuss about a completely different issue since I first reported it...?

https://github.com/NiLuJe/FBInk/blob/de366433554f1dceb1b419d280ed80465ee1d5cc/fbink.c#L2514

FBInk/fbink.c at de366433554f1dceb1b419d280ed80465ee1d5cc · NiLuJe/...

FrameBuffer eInker, a small tool & library to print text & images to an eInk Linux framebuffer - FBInk/fbink.c at de366433554f1dceb1b419d280ed80465ee1d5cc · NiLuJe/FBInk

NiLuJe

strace it. That looks suspiciously like the Libra issue with the mxcfb wait_for ioctls timing out. (edited)

only on his nia

NiLuJe

https://github.com/NiLuJe/FBInk/blob/de366433554f1dceb1b419d280ed80465ee1d5cc/fbink.c#L2514

Note: the platform plugin on the Nia isn't using FBInk (if that matters) (edited)

https://github.com/koreader/koreader-base/pull/1329

Kobo Libra: Bypass WAIT_FOR_UPDATE_COMPLETE ioctls... by NiLuJe · P...

They can apparently mysteriously timeout for no apparent reason, which obviously murders performance. This a very, very shitty hack, hopefully only there until more is understood about the issue......

tux-linux

Note: the platform plugin on the Nia isn't using FBInk (if that matters) (edited)

what

Irrelevant, that's a kernel issue that was reproduced on Nickel, too

1

It's using native writes to fb0 and ioctl calls to draw the screen

oh o

1:06 AM

k

I will say it's definitely less than 10 seconds of lag. Sorry for the overestimation, though it's definitely frustrating.

that one is to be expected I was thinking about the checkbox

1:14 AM

Also, night mode probably isn't going to help you

1:15 AM

It's not the most stable on Nia

I will try catch some other lag, As its seems to be variable

1

tux-linux

It's not the most stable on Nia

Oh Understood. I'll turn it off

Raycast [THCoH]

Using a u3 sdcard speeds inkbox up a lot

Does the card slot even support the second row of pins?

1:19 AM

If not just a newer u1 would probably have the same performance increase.

luːk

I will say it's definitely less than 10 seconds of lag. Sorry for the overestimation, though it's definitely frustrating.

you described it wrong, this is espected

Szybet

you described it wrong, this is espected

I sure did! Sorry about that. Thats reassuring.

In terms of openRC is there specifics you'd reccommend learning about?

service command

1:34 AM

where are things

https://filebrowser.org/ interesting

Welcome

NonaSuomy

Does the card slot even support the second row of pins?

U3 was faster than the U1 card tho in inkbox

Raycast [THCoH]

U3 was faster than the U1 card tho in inkbox

Yes but what are the exact stats of both cards besides the U3?

Both are class 10

And

I think they also both were a1

and

?

year of manufacture date

Idk

If you look in the slot is there a double row of pins?

2:03 PM

If you look on the back of the card is there a double row of pins?

Lemme take a look

2:05 PM

Single row for the U3

It's fake

2:05 PM

It's a Samsung evo

must be mislabeled or fake

It's real cuz I do get the speeds that are said on the internet that you are be able to get

2:06 PM

I can get above 60mb/s

U3 does not determine speed

2:09 PM

This are the sdcards

2:10 PM

NonaSuomy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

UHS-1 not UHS-2

2:13 PM

see that I ?

2:15 PM

That means UHS-I

Yeah

2:15 PM

But it still is U3

which is a single row of pins

2:17 PM

UHS-II

So?

NonaSuomy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

what is this madness

Still doesn't change the fact that the sdcard is faster than the standard sdcard

I was just wondering why though.

2:18 PM

going to say it's just that your other one is much older

2:18 PM

has an older controller in it

Different speed class

maybe also more wear

If you overclock the sdcard bus of the ereader it would make stuff even faster

NonaSuomy

maybe also more wear

Wasn't used much tho

what was it used in?

Raspberry pi for a not very long time

Raspberry Pi's destroy SD-Cards

2:20 PM

I have yet to have one survive an RPi

I don't have any problems with that tho

NonaSuomy

Raspberry Pi's destroy SD-Cards

true^ but it depends on the power supply for the pi

I just hook up a 15w charger

All the ratings on SDCards usually just determine the minimal sequential write speed.

Baguette

you could technically have a U1 card with a high end built controller in it and a U3 with a lower end controller in it and the U1 card could technically out preform it as the standards is just stating minimums but doesn't say the U1 is impossible to write at 1000MB/s

NonaSuomy

I have yet to have one survive an RPi

Use raspi-overlayroot for Arch https://github.com/nils-werner/raspi-overlayroot or overlay root filesystem in raspi-config

GitHub - nils-werner/raspi-overlayroot: Protect your SD card agains...

Protect your SD card against wear and tear. Contribute to nils-werner/raspi-overlayroot development by creating an account on GitHub.

1

NonaSuomy

you could technically have a U1 card with a high end built controller in it and a U3 with a lower end controller in it and the U1 card could technically out preform it as the standards is just stating minimums but doesn't say the U1 is impossible to write at 1000MB/s

1000mb/s does sound impossible tho

It's only improbable.

3:43 PM

It's basically like we thought phonelines could only go so fast with dialup back in the day. Then discovered dsl then the same phonelines could now go at mbps speeds instead of kbps speeds.

3:48 PM

most of what the public sees for labeling is just hyperboil advertisement data. A lot of the time as well they have technology that can go way faster or know the current model will go way faster but they govern a limit for it and they throttle it so they have a new product to show the next year so the company is still showing that they are innovating without having to innovate.

Disable the sun tho

3:49 PM

I now remember why I don't like going outside

3:53 PM

Do you really need node for epub cover extraction? you can extract it and then OEBPS>Image>WCover.jpg (edited)

Just use a standalone converter

It is never the same path

1:55 PM

Besides, it also gives useful info about the book

do it that it will be not needed for the user to wait

1:56 PM

pls

1:57 PM

or i will need to rewrite that in the future too

I will start in in early boot

2:30 PM

To speed up things after (edited)

how much ram will it take?

Too much

then don't use it

2:31 PM

really

2:31 PM

there is a reason why it isin't used on any ereader (edited)

epub-parser really provides a lot of info I don't plan to use it just for that

2:32 PM

It also provides author, published date, subject, etc In JSON format

2:32 PM

Besides, it will only be run when there are new books

2:32 PM

Or at the initial stage after the update

do you want the user to wait 30s till his book is added?

I will store the info in a database I guess

im asking^

Szybet

do you want the user to wait 30s till his book is added?

It's similar to Nickel

we are not nickel

2:33 PM

when do you want to start to use it?

2:34 PM

to develop something with it^

There will be an "indexing" boot mode which will do just that

2:34 PM

Also, it's not going to take 30s for each book

2:35 PM

Once the first is done, I can just throw the rest in a while loop

the ideas with your epub parsing are being worse and worse...

Szybet

when do you want to start to use it?

im asking

With the new homepage

so when?

2:35 PM

if its not in the next week i will write a rust library for it

2:35 PM

im trying to avoid a disaster

Szybet

if its not in the next week i will write a rust library for it

Rust is not compilable on the kobo

It is.

Not on Alpine

2:36 PM

It won't be a disaster

it has a musl target

2:36 PM

it will

2:37 PM

also we can run it in chroot using glibc

2:37 PM

specify what info you want from epubs and how do you want to communicate with Qt etc and i will do it

2:38 PM

user apps will be later done becouse of it

Szybet

it will

Good luck

i can even do this in cpp of you want

Cpp will probably be less brain damage

Nope, but thats personal

2:39 PM

using another programming language becouse you need a library from it isint a solution

Node will be used for a debug http server if specified by a flag I might use it for other things (edited)

but not for something that the user needs to wait

2:40 PM

its not fast

2:40 PM

also you dont have much ram, dont run it all the time

It can be fast Only interpreter initial start is slow

but then it takes ram

And?

how much ram do you have on ereaders?

2:41 PM

becouse i think not to much

If it's used for static tasks, it won't consume RAM all the time

2:42 PM

Even for http server

but it will consume some of it

2:42 PM

15 Mb is too much already

2:43 PM

https://github.com/danigm/epub-rs

GitHub - danigm/epub-rs: Library to support the reading of epub files.

Library to support the reading of epub files. Contribute to danigm/epub-rs development by creating an account on GitHub.

2:43 PM

there is already a library for rust

Szybet

specify what info you want from epubs and how do you want to communicate with Qt etc and i will do it

Make a standalone binary that gets the same info as epub-parser in the same JSON format so that it can be a drop in replacement in the future +Support epub3 spec

Szybet

https://github.com/danigm/epub-rs

Node isn't for reading epubs It's only to get the metadata

this library can extract everything

2:44 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Try to compile it on Alpine

tux-linux

Make a standalone binary that gets the same info as epub-parser in the same JSON format so that it can be a drop in replacement in the future +Support epub3 spec

sure

2:45 PM

plato launched

Plato was already compiled

why other things wouldn't

It also launched in the glibc chroot

2:45 PM

In which you can't put that library

yes, in the glibc

2:45 PM

why?

It's not upgradable

what, why?

2:46 PM

you use the cpp tolchain for rust

Also I would like that to be available globally, not only whilst the GUI is running

you link it

2:46 PM

OK

tux-linux

Make a standalone binary that gets the same info as epub-parser in the same JSON format so that it can be a drop in replacement in the future +Support epub3 spec

I will start with node If you provide something faster I'll use that

where is the json scheme for that: https://npm.io/package/epub-cover-extractor

Epub-cover-extractor NPM | npm.io

Check Epub-cover-extractor 1.0.3 package - Last release 1.0.3 with MIT licence at our NPM packages aggregator and search engine.

no it's not that

2:51 PM

epub-parser module

then send the right one

2:52 PM

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@ridi/epub-parser

@ridi/epub-parser

Common EPUB2 data parser for Ridibooks services. Latest version: 0.7.4-alpha.1, last published: a year ago. Start using @ridi/epub-parser in your project by running npm i @ridi/epub-parser. There are 2 other projects in the npm registry using @ridi/epub-parser.

2:52 PM

this?

https://www.npmjs.com/package/epub-parser

13.28 KB

Szybet

this?

nope

2:52 PM

epub-parser

Epub parser. Latest version: 0.2.5, last published: 7 years ago. Start using epub-parser in your project by running npm i epub-parser. There are 4 other projects in the npm registry using epub-parser.

do you need all the chapters?

I might

2:55 PM

but not now

4:57 PM

snake rust example running on the kobo with arm-unknown-linux-musleabi

4:57 PM

it took me 15 minutes to get this

4:57 PM

also the epub library works too, i attached it to snake and launched a small example

4:58 PM

there were some problems with another snake example, but it was using 100+ libraries for some reason

Really

4:59 PM

Ok good

tux-linux

Rust is not compilable on the kobo

RuSt Is NoT cOmPiLabLe On ThE kObO

Well, I tried to compile castor browser once and it never worked

libgtk-3-dev libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libssl-dev

5:00 PM

its using those libraries

5:00 PM

its more complicated when those aren't rust libraries

How much time did it take to compile?

what?

5:01 PM

snake?

Oh... You got a precompiled rustc

what did you tryied to do?...

Compile rust from source since it isn't available in Alpine package manager

no no no no no

5:03 PM

https://doc.rust-lang.org/nightly/rustc/platform-support.html

Platform Support - The rustc book

5:04 PM

give me the link to castor

5:04 PM

i cant find it

5:04 PM

too much castorama's

Szybet

https://doc.rust-lang.org/nightly/rustc/platform-support.html

Nice

5:21 PM

https://sr.ht/~julienxx/Castor/

5:21 PM

It's a different kind of browser

5:21 PM

It will go in X11 subsystem

5:21 PM

As an extension

error: failed to run custom build command for `glib-sys v0.9.1`

Caused by:
  process didn't exit successfully: `/home/szybet/Downloads/castor/target/debug/build/glib-sys-704c9f1508b4f6a7/build-script-build` (exit status: 1)
  --- stdout
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=GLIB_2.0_NO_PKG_CONFIG
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_ALLOW_CROSS_armv7-unknown-linux-musleabi
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_ALLOW_CROSS_armv7_unknown_linux_musleabi
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=TARGET_PKG_CONFIG_ALLOW_CROSS
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_ALLOW_CROSS
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_armv7-unknown-linux-musleabi
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_armv7_unknown_linux_musleabi
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=TARGET_PKG_CONFIG
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR_armv7-unknown-linux-musleabi
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR_armv7_unknown_linux_musleabi
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=TARGET_PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR
  cargo:rerun-if-env-changed=PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR

  --- stderr
  pkg-config has not been configured to support cross-compilation.

  Install a sysroot for the target platform and configure it via
  PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR and PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or install a
  cross-compiling wrapper for pkg-config and set it via
  PKG_CONFIG environment variable.

5:34 PM

i need those compiled libraries

Try to cross compile them

no no no no no no no

5:42 PM

you can try

5:42 PM

and then i can try the rust part

Ok then you can work on the ePUB thing

5:46 PM

I need to get a JSON with author, pub date, cover page location and book name

So I can safely remove the epub-parser module from the rootfs? Does the rust library provide all the details above? (edited)

tux-linux

I need to get a JSON with author, pub date, cover page location and book name

is that all?

Basically yes

8:56 PM

Unless you find some info you think would be useful

tux-linux

So I can safely remove the epub-parser module from the rootfs? Does the rust library provide all the details above? (edited)

O think yws

1

tux-linux

Basically yes

Could you provide a epub for testing?

Szybet

Could you provide a epub for testing?

A_Kiss_Before_Dying_by_Ira_Levin.epub

73.21 KB

1

Szybet

Could you provide a epub for testing?

Ones from project Gutenberg are good

tux-linux

I need to get a JSON with author, pub date, cover page location and book name

cover page location? so i need to extract it?

Yes

10:12 PM

Not the cover

10:12 PM

Only the path

oh ok

Well, you can extract the cover too But I can do that

book name = tittle?

publish date: {"identifier": ["1a32fad3-5a66-4262-b095-752fd66ab673", "1a32fad3-5a66-4262-b095-752fd66ab673"], "language": ["en"], "title": ["A Kiss Before Dying"], "creator": ["Ira Levin"], "date": ["0101-01-01T00:00:00+00:00"], "calibre:title_sort": ["Kiss Before Dying, A"], "description": ["<p>The young man wanted to become reach using charming girl that studied with him. Her name is Dorothy and she is a daughter of very rich man named Leo Kingship. But suddenly Dorothy became pregnant and her boyfriend realized that his plan can be ruined. He started to make new arrangements for resolving so inconvenient situation. In several days Dorothy found dead. According to suicide note that was send to Ellen, sister of dead girl, and that fact that birth certificate was found at place of dead, police decided that her death was certainly suicide. But Ellen was not so sure, she thought her sister was killed. Ellen went to city where her sister was studying at university. There she started an investigation, almost immediately she founded a man that she thinks killed her sister…</p>"], "calibre:timestamp": ["0101-01-01T00:00:00+00:00"], "publisher": ["http://english-e-books.net/"], "contributor": ["calibre (2.16.0) [http://calibre-ebook.com]"], "cover": ["cover"]}

11:13 PM

thats the data I can get with a single function

11:13 PM

the only thing is missing is the publish date? or am I blind

11:14 PM

its in the first line... but there is nothing?

maybe just date?

11:22 PM

idk

@tux-linux @tux-linux @tux-linux

12:12 AM

yes.

12:12 AM

https://github.com/Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox

GitHub - Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox

Contribute to Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox development by creating an account on GitHub.

12:13 AM

written in 30 minutes

12:13 AM

it works instantly, sonic would be proud

12:13 AM

idk about the date and other things, just say if this fits or you want something else

Szybet

its in the first line... but there is nothing?

Not included I guess

i used date, idk about these there

12:14 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's an old book from 19 something

Szybet

i used date, idk about these there

Oh as in the date variable or the date command?

12:14 AM

Oh wait

Raycast [THCoH]

It's an old book from 19 something

yea, propably then there wasn't this epub version

12:15 AM

Raycast [THCoH]

Oh as in the date variable or the date command?

variable from the hashmap

The date of the release of that book isn't included cuz I got it from illegal sites

I also have the txt version

idk if we can talk about piracy here (edited)

Let's just say that I searched for the book on legal sites but couldn't find it for free

12:16 AM

I hired the book at the library but lost it on my way home

12:16 AM

I was pissed and just decided to download it somewhere on the internet

and then you send shrek to the dev channel

12:17 AM

good day it was

12:17 AM

Was a different day

12:17 AM

I think it was about 8 days ago or something

12:18 AM

SPOILER

We need a channel for memes

12:21 AM

But for funny ones

Yes

12:21 AM

I agree

Szybet

https://github.com/Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox

THX

12:25 AM

Some random person in my discord server

12:25 AM

Lol

@tux-linux channel for memes and/or funny stuff pls?

Maybe roles as ereader devices?

dill

@tux-linux channel for memes and/or funny stuff pls?

Forst you test sanki, then you get the meme channel

Gimme meme channel or I will send twerking spiderman

12:35 AM

@Szybet

First person banned? Wow

Nu!

12:36 AM

Oh wait, I can just make a thread

Raycast [THCoH] started a thread. 5/17/2022 12:36 AM

Szybet

Forst you test sanki, then you get the meme channel

is sanki on the mini

Szybet

https://github.com/Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox

though the size of the binary is terrifying

Ok, I got it as low as 2mb

5:18 AM

I forked your repo and improved some things, good stuff https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/epubtool/commit/438f27c752ef79c7a29448b8af3af70c082a31c3

Improvements · Kobo-InkBox/epubtool@438f27c

node consumes 5M of RAM with an http server FWIW (edited)

@Szybet miracle: look at the special characters: it's with a newly compiled platform plugin (edited)

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tux-linux

though the size of the binary is terrifying

Really -_-

dill

is sanki on the mini

It can be

tux-linux

Ok, I got it as low as 2mb

I can remove debug things

tux-linux

@Szybet miracle: look at the special characters: it's with a newly compiled platform plugin (edited)

Nice

tux-linux

I forked your repo and improved some things, good stuff https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/epubtool/commit/438f27c752ef79c7a29448b8af3af70c082a31c3

make a pull request

7:49 AM

i will propably optimise it for disk space

Szybet

make a pull request

i did ti myself

9:03 AM

hehe

tux-linux

Ok, I got it as low as 2mb

now its 0.5 Mb

9:08 AM

https://github.com/Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox/releases/tag/0.2

Release 0.2 · Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox

4.5 Mb less ( not tested if it works )

You guys never sleep??

as little as possible

...

code won't write himself?

1

Just get some people help you

ok, then you

9:11 AM

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/blob/master/apps.cpp

inkbox/apps.cpp at master · Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/inkbox development by creating an account on GitHub.

9:11 AM

add here a qdialog that appears if in /mnt/onboard/onboard is a file called .ink.pkg.gz

Szybet

ok, then you

I can't do c or c++

https://www.w3schools.com/CPP/default.asp

W3Schools offers free online tutorials, references and exercises in all the major languages of the web. Covering popular subjects like HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Python, SQL, Java, and many, many more.

9:12 AM

sit down and learn

Szybet

add here a qdialog that appears if in /mnt/onboard/onboard is a file called .ink.pkg.gz

I only can make stuff like that in bash

write a script in bash that will teach you cpp

No

yes

I'm busy learning for my final exams

exams are just numbers

I have math today

they won't matter

9:13 AM

oh math

9:13 AM

then maybe a bit

Szybet

exams are just numbers

Won't graduate without my final exams

reject school start programming

Can't

9:14 AM

Won't have access to laboratory if I don't graduate

well in my country there arent any laboratories

I will do a study for programming in a couple of years

so you are lucky

I first need to do a different study cuz otherwise I can't go to a higher niveau of education cuz the school system here sucks

denemark?

After I'm done with those two studies I will move to the united states

Szybet

denemark?

The Netherlands

Raycast [THCoH]

After I'm done with those two studies I will move to the united states

wtf why

Raycast [THCoH]

The Netherlands

such a nice country

9:19 AM

amsterdam

9:19 AM

bike roads

Szybet

wtf why

Cuz I already have a place where I can live there

i would love to live there

I got hit by vehicles multiple times UwU

Raycast [THCoH]

Cuz I already have a place where I can live there

well, USA has got some problems

I know

9:19 AM

And it's only temporary

Raycast [THCoH]

I got hit by vehicles multiple times UwU

you can drive?

Bike

i hope you won't got shot there

9:20 AM

or robbed

Szybet

i hope you won't got shot there

I'll just shoot them

Szybet

well, USA has got some problems

I will move with two others to a different place after making some money

i dont get it

9:22 AM

netherlands is such a good country (edited)

There are not enough houses here

9:22 AM

It's near impossible to get a house here

9:23 AM

And inflation fucked up all the prices

its all the same here in poland

9:23 AM

in usa too

9:23 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

9:23 AM

thank putin

Yep

9:25 AM

The government here sucks

becouse?

9:26 AM

then you didn't see poland's goverment

9:26 AM

usa isint better in that too

They brought many people in dept cuz of their last names

same here in poland

9:26 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Welp

9:27 AM

And the government here is slow asf

thats how democracy works

They have stupid racist person in government

50% of poland's goverment are old stupid racist boomers

He literally said Do you want more or less Moroccans?

moroccans?

9:28 AM

moro and cans?

9:28 AM

beans?

9:28 AM

what

People from Morocco

9:29 AM

We have a lot of diversity here

9:29 AM

It even affects our culture

look at sweden

9:30 AM

his hate isin't without foundation

9:30 AM

but still

25.5% of our population comes from different countries

its nothing wrong with it

9:31 AM

people are people

Our country is small

9:31 AM

People keep moving here and then have trouble finding a house

its called overpopulation

Yes

9:32 AM

We have 17,44 million people

9:33 AM

Spread over 41.543 km²

well

Szybet

https://github.com/Szybet/epub-extract-inkbox/releases/tag/0.2

Good, but isn't there a way in rust to define DEBUG at compile time and include it or not in the build instead of commenting code?

there propably is

1

1:25 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1:25 PM

but i ripped off completly the debug library

1:25 PM

soo propabyl not o much

1:28 PM

do you want a even smaller or is it good?

1:28 PM

It's fine

1:36 PM

Maybe just println more if debug build is defined

then it takes more space

1:55 PM

ph debug build

1:55 PM

it should do that

1:55 PM

but the binary will be 20 Mb

wait no

2:09 PM

not

2:09 PM

i will think about it later

1

PSA: please don't edit anything on the wiki, I'm redoing server stuff EDIT: Done now, you can (edited)

1

What flavor of linux is InkBox based on?

Alpine 3.10

Thank you.

1

about browser for inkbox: https://github.com/openandclose/tosixinch i wanted to do something like that

GitHub - openandclose/tosixinch: Browser to e-reader in a few minutes

Browser to e-reader in a few minutes. Contribute to openandclose/tosixinch development by creating an account on GitHub.

11:12 AM

but in rust ;p

Is inkbox encryption with EncFS secure enough that it can't be decrypted with brute force software if I use a long complex passcode?

San

Is inkbox encryption with EncFS secure enough that it can't be decrypted with brute force software if I use a long complex passcode?

As long as you don't store any construction plans for bombs, ABC weapons or plans for future attacks or murders, this encryption is completely sufficient.

️ In any case, your data is better protected with this encryption :) (edited)

1

Suggestions for a new NTP pool?

but why did these died?

5:34 PM

can you test them

5:34 PM

those are official... ntp.org

1

Does somebody want to add new author quotes to the GUI?

Need those to be authors?

Hmm yeah, I need to show a picture next to them

i mean, main characters from books?

I guess I could allow that too

3:25 PM

But with pictures

It's Over Anakin! I have the high ground!

3:27 PM

i hope this was in the book, didnt checked that

There's a book?

star wars is based on books?

3:27 PM

i readed one

Is it? I thought it was created on movie then adapted to books since you tell me so

im not sure

tux-linux

Is it? I thought it was created on movie then adapted to books since you tell me so

well then its in the book anyway

1

3:29 PM

but serioudly i could make many quotes from the witcher series

Sure

3:29 PM

Just make the picture height/weight roughly match that of the existing ones

maybe a repo for those?

Then... invent a better way to display a quote instead of if/else if things in reader.cpp

json

3:30 PM

json.

3:30 PM

:D

Maybe a for loop with randomization

3:30 PM

No, the goal is to have a random display of quotes

json array -> random

There's aready qrandom implemented

3:31 PM

File 1.txt can match file 1.png Not sure if we really need JSON here

well sure then

3:32 PM

but one place for all of those quotes could be goo

3:32 PM

a repo where users can add them (edited)

Submodule

3:32 PM

ok

3:33 PM

So it will be a submodule at /resources/quotes

3:33 PM

And users will be able to switch to the home screen to the quote thing without always seeing the same thing

tux-linux

So it will be a submodule at /resources/quotes

we need to remember to not copy .git file to the final image

Compress your pngs to the max Because otherwise the binary is going to be heavy

Szybet

we need to remember to not copy .git file to the final image

oh sh--

3:35 PM

qrc is file-based

tux-linux

Compress your pngs to the max Because otherwise the binary is going to be heavy

its going to the binary?

3:35 PM

cant we use it in the gui bundle?

Well, now it's not

3:35 PM

Yeah, better there

20+ quotes and the binary will build for ages (edited)

Ok, so content/inkbox/resources/quotes

tested out convay - wow this is great

9:06 PM

i love this

9:06 PM

the obly thing is that those arrow buttons are small

9:06 PM

but eassly fixable

9:06 PM

great work!

Szybet

tested out convay - wow this is great

yeah, it's fun

Szybet

but eassly fixable

make a PR

i will, propably

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https://cad.onshape.com/documents/81e0f651ce1aae8ffa9f1575/w/13728586c81f5141ee16cb80/e/15c8e15d132d19d48017d937?renderMode=0&uiState=62c9e47180b2d137eba6eb76 3d model of the nia with inkbox becouse why not

nice

10:51 PM

but why is it white

becouse im lazy

and why is your battery icon like that

10:51 PM

and you're not using the right font

tux-linux

and why is your battery icon like that

its hell to work with such a big sketch, it loads for ages so i applied it and didnt repair some things. like v in reversi

1

tux-linux

and you're not using the right font

you mean for what?

Szybet

you mean for what?

Kobo logo

10:53 PM

Use Rotis bold

10:53 PM

But that is not open-source anyway

Szybet

its hell to work with such a big sketch, it loads for ages so i applied it and didnt repair some things. like v in reversi

Have you tried Blender? (edited)

tux-linux

Kobo logo

oh okay, didnt even tryied, it looks good so i leaved it

you're using liberation serif

10:54 PM

this thing is horrible

tux-linux

Have you tried Blender? (edited)

in blender i couldn't get measurments right, but yea applying the screen in blender would be better

1

tux-linux

you're using liberation serif

how can you tell what font it is from looking at it...

because I can

10:57 PM

well thats a unusual skill (edited)

I guess

Is there a way to expand the system filesize on InkBox beyond the 1024 MiB choice?

Yes but you need to do it manually

How would I go about doing that? through KTerm, a partitioning tool, or...?

Do you really have >1G of books to store ?

Yes, actually. I plan on tinkering extensively with ZIM archives also

Do you know Linux well?

Er, kinda.

3:18 AM

I cut my teeth on it in college as my main OS

3:18 AM

(ubuntu)

which was around what time?

2018?

did you use the cli?

The terminal? Yes.

Backup everything that is currently in your onboard storage Boot on an Ubuntu LiveDVD Extend partition 4 of your microSD with a tool like gparted then

mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt
rm /mnt/onboard
dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/onboard bs=1M count=<nb. of mb you want, 1024=1G>
sync
sync
umount /mnt

3:22 AM

(assuming mmcblk0 points to your microSD card, it could be sdb, sdc or something like that otherwise, check with fdisk -l)

It works and its easy to make

8:56 AM

Hi. First of all thanks for the great work! InkBox already looks impressive and I can't wait for all kinds of new features. At the moment there is one thing unclear to me: Does InkBox support wifi for N705, N905C and N613 or not? The website/wiki/github do not seem to mention this, but a post on mobileread.com does. On my N613 I indeed do not seem to see any WiFi options, although the original OS does have it. So if it doesn't in InkBox, why not? Hope to hear from you.

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It doesn't work because of this https://github.com/kobolabs/Kobo-Reader/issues/105 It might work in 2.0 release Thanks for reviewing! (edited)

dhd.ko module incompatible with self-compiled kernel · Issue #105 ·...

I've recompiled a kernel from the imx507 sources for a Kobo Mini and Kobo Touch. All is fine but the wi-fi module doesn't want to cope with that kernel. I compiled the other modules...

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tux-linux

It doesn't work because of this https://github.com/kobolabs/Kobo-Reader/issues/105 It might work in 2.0 release Thanks for reviewing! (edited)

you have a plan to make it work for 2.0?

I think

will you explain it?

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Thanks for your quick response! Hope this will then work in 2.0. Unfortunately I only have N613 and N905C lying around, but do like to have wifi ;).

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tux-linux

I think

Dill: enters the chat

Hello! I'm currently having some serious issues with battery on the Nia, is there some strategies I can use to improve this?

Ask @Szybet Every Kobo kernel is seriously flawed in some way For the Nia it seems the main problem is power (edited)

5:32 AM

We're developing a new power daemon and he's the main person you should talk to about that It's currently undergoing a long process of testing/debugging/debugging/debugging/debugging/fixing but it will be working better soon to add it in 2.0 release

tux-linux

Ask @Szybet Every Kobo kernel is seriously flawed in some way For the Nia it seems the main problem is power (edited)

Sweet! I appreciate the clarity, and you guy's hard efforts.

the power daemon will fix some things for sure

1:00 PM

for nwo you can contact kobo and ask them to update the linux kernel becouse the license requires them to do it...

1:01 PM

also a note: battery life on the stock os wasn't great either for me, it was better, but suprisingly worse of what i had expexted. the nia has a really small battery inside (edited)

well if you really want, you can start using it now

7:50 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For now I think i will flash back to the OG image

8:31 AM

I found someone who could provide me a NIA image

Hi guys, just a quick question. Lets say I install inkbox on my device, have I any way to reinstall the stock/default os ?

make a backup

2:08 PM

what device do you have? (edited)

None for now, I'll buy it today

Which one

2:12 PM

dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 status=progress | xz > kobo-backup.img.xz

2:12 PM

I... hope you know a bit of Linux things?

tux-linux

Which one

Don't know yet, I'll what's in store and compatible

tux-linux

I... hope you know a bit of Linux things?

Yup no worries for that

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Zalax

Don't know yet, I'll what's in store and compatible

Ooh, you buy new?

Exactly, i wanted one a while ago but didnt know about this project at the time

We currently don't support new devices

2:17 PM

The most recent we officially support is the Glo HD

2:17 PM

But

tux-linux

We currently don't support new devices

because no want wants to port to them, you can help with that*

You can buy a Clara HD and help us port it, 90% of users who proposed help for this are never online / gave up interest / didn't want to do it

Szybet

because no want wants to port to them, you can help with that*

*we don't have enough money

tux-linux

You can buy a Clara HD and help us port it, 90% of users who proposed help for this are never online / gave up interest / didn't want to do it

The Clara HD is the only device with an easily-accessible internal microSD card

I think i'll go with that one then, thanks a lot

because im me, i need to say about the nia everything works, only battery life is worse

2:24 PM

also there is a 3d printed case for it :) https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/blob/main/case/guide.md (edited)

Oh I forgot the Nia

2:34 PM

True

Zalax

I think i'll go with that one then, thanks a lot

Good choice

okay i have the Clara HD, what do I need to do now?

how did you get an ereader in 30 min?

i was in front of the store when i was writing earlier c:

okay, nice

3:03 PM

well #porting and clara thread

Hmm ok I'm not available currently, when I come back (3h) I will guide you

3:04 PM

Maybe Szybet can help you make a backup And set up a serial connection (edited)

is there already a kernel for it? https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel

GitHub - Kobo-InkBox/kernel: Kernel sources for InkBox OS

Kernel sources for InkBox OS. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/kernel development by creating an account on GitHub.

Yes

tux-linux

Maybe Szybet can help you make a backup And set up a serial connection (edited)

sure i can if he wants

Some effort has been done

tux-linux

Yes

so i can help him compile everything

We have to make the FB work before

whats the problem

Plus it doesn't seem to support FBInk So we need to reach out to NiLuJe so he can add it if we provide test data

Szybet

whats the problem

Look in the thread

What is the state of the xorg fix?

stale

9:42 PM

i'm testing your wifi binary now

tux-linux

stale

You mean?

i really don't have the energy to find the problem in the source, recompile a whole xorg rootfs, repackage 8 system images and upload that

I mean, we have a binary that unlocks the eink

yes

9:48 PM

maybe ipd could do something with it

We could eassly add to ipd some code

the platform plugin fix on the kindle with that binary's code makes it even worse

9:49 PM

so

9:49 PM

better put that in ipd

9:49 PM

but when and how

But we need a way to detect if eink is locked

without polling too much

Does fbink dump work when the screen is frozen?

probably

Dumping one random pixel

it just can't send an update

Of the screen

9:50 PM

Dumping it, getting the info from the screen

9:50 PM

We are not writing anything

but how would you know it's frozen

Szybet

Dumping one random pixel

Im thinking of this

Szybet

We are not writing anything

well then we would be

Dumping means writing?

no

Exactly

but how do you know if it's frozen if you don't write to the screen

That's what I'm asking Does dumping work when the screen is frozen?

it probably does

Well, if not we have a solution

only screen updates don't work

Yes. only the ioctl handler is locked

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Crapp

Which is why the place that sends those ioctls in the first place is the place to work it around if you can't be arsed to fix the root cause (edited)

9:55 PM

Doing it any other way lies madness

tux-linux

i really don't have the energy to find the problem in the source, recompile a whole xorg rootfs, repackage 8 system images and upload that

:/

9:56 PM

If I would find the cause of the problem in the code, would you do the rest?

Well, first, we would need to find what causes the problem

tux-linux

Well, first, we would need to find what causes the problem

Do we know which ioctl write causes it?

Szybet

Do we know which ioctl write causes it?

we could know, but it wouldn't be easy to search afterwards

9:56 PM

even in the source

just grep^fbioblank or what-ever the actyual name isz

9:57 PM

ezpz (edited)

Szybet

If I would find the cause of the problem in the code, would you do the rest?

we can try to find it together we would also need to succeed in compiling it

NiLuJe

just grep^fbioblank or what-ever the actyual name isz

I'm thinking of that :p

tux-linux

we can try to find it together we would also need to succeed in compiling it

Well first compiling it

9:58 PM

Can you provide the source? O can try tommorow

let's go

9:58 PM

https://github.com/freedesktop/xorg-xserver

GitHub - freedesktop/xorg-xserver: X server

X server. Contribute to freedesktop/xorg-xserver development by creating an account on GitHub.

NiLuJe

ezpz (edited)

But the exactly ioctl write?

nicolas@gentoo-ryzen ~/D/i/xorg-xserver (master)> rg FBIOBLANK
hw/xfree86/fbdevhw/fbpriv.h
38:#define FBIOBLANK            0x4611

hw/xfree86/fbdevhw/fbdevhw.c
84:    FBIOBLANK_UNSUPPORTED = 0,
856:    if (fPtr->unsupported_ioctls & (1 << FBIOBLANK_UNSUPPORTED))
877:    if (-1 == ioctl(fPtr->fd, FBIOBLANK, (void *) fbmode)) {
881:                       "FBIOBLANK: %s\n", strerror(errno));
887:            fPtr->unsupported_ioctls |= (1 << FBIOBLANK_UNSUPPORTED);
889:                       "FBIOBLANK: %s (Screen blanking not supported "
905:    if (fPtr->unsupported_ioctls & (1 << FBIOBLANK_UNSUPPORTED))
911:    if (-1 == ioctl(fPtr->fd, FBIOBLANK, (void *) (1 - unblank))) {
915:                       "FBIOBLANK: %s\n", strerror(errno));
921:            fPtr->unsupported_ioctls |= (1 << FBIOBLANK_UNSUPPORTED);
923:                       "FBIOBLANK: %s (Screen blanking not supported "
nicolas@gentoo-ryzen ~/D/i/xorg-xserver (master)>

9:59 PM

... great

Umm

Possibly related: man 5 xorg.conf, Option BlankTime (0 to disable)

Hmm Interesting

tux-linux

... great

just purge all writes with FBIOBLANK :D?

I didn't see there were ioctls I only saw FBIOBLANK_UNSUPPORTED

2:13 PM

maybe it would be better to check the config file before

i mean

2:14 PM

its a bug in xorg, 100%

2:14 PM

only on some devices happens randomly

2:14 PM

soo

check it on your Nia, I seem to have lost my Libra

i mean, check what

like, I haven't seen it in weeks

tux-linux

check it on your Nia, I seem to have lost my Libra

what, how?

check the bug

tux-linux

check the bug

um and?

Szybet

what, how?

I don't know

Szybet

um and?

check if the config file option works

tux-linux

like, I haven't seen it in weeks

you were saying you traveled a bit

tux-linux

check if the config file option works

oh this

2:15 PM

okay i will today

might have lost it while traveling

propably :/

I can go back to these places, I will check if it's there

2:16 PM

(my grand-parents place)

post on facebook or a local social network about it

I haven't lost any other device

2:16 PM

so I don't care too much

still its something

It's Wi-Fi Unless you write variable names

4:11 PM

oh, didn't see this was an older commit

4:11 PM

but don't forget to correct it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJrD-XcuPM Version 2.0 teaser video

MobileRead Forums - View Single Post - InkBox: a new open-source O...

InkBox OS 2.0 preview

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wow

5:11 AM

nice!

1

Hey, what about WiFi? (edited)

9:23 AM

:<

9:25 AM

You also didn't showed user apps

Yeah, it was mainly to preview reader things I'll make another complete video for the official release Wi-Fi is not yet design-ready And difficult to demo in the emulator (edited)

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4250178&postcount=84 I mentioned them there

MobileRead - the resource for mobile geeks seeking information and advice for keeping their gadgets happy.

NiLuJe

Possibly related: man 5 xorg.conf, Option BlankTime (0 to disable)

found it

@Aramir try with this http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/misc/inkbox-update-1.9-n613.upd.isa

Got stuck. I can't validate this popup. Repro steps : 1/ get a glo on 1.6 (with nothing installed on it) 2/ copy paste the update files and some books on the glo 3/ disconnect and update the device. 4/ once the update is done. Notice the "generating database" popup overlapping the changelog popup. 5/ get stuck

remove any book you have

12:14 AM

mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt
mount /mnt/onboard /mnt1
rm /mnt1/books.......
umount /mnt1
umount /mnt

12:16 AM

and/or

mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt
rm /mnt/update/inkbox_updated
umount /mnt

to disable the popup

Thanks, I will do that tomorrow, gotta get my linux laptop for that. Good night

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UI scaling seems to be pretty much mandatory

3:22 PM

But otherwise, it works.

Yes, you did enable it?

Yup.

3:24 PM

I disabled it during initial setup cause I thought it was gonna work like "windows desktop scaling" aka "it will only zoom stuff, and not actually properly resize it"

But it isn't like that anymore (edited)

3:24 PM

Right?

yea we could disable the scalling at all

Oh yeah it s fine now

Good it looks alright

3:25 PM

Your Wi-Fi icon is strange Can you open system info and send a picture?

3:25 PM

2nd page of settings -> show system info

I haven't setup wifi yet, maybe that's why

No

3:27 PM

Device : n613 IP Address: Not available

What did I do

What's the problem here ?

You should be on 1.9-95 or something

3:31 PM

hang on

No hurries, it's ok

http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/misc/inkbox-update-1.9-n613.upd.isa

3:37 PM

should get your gui fixed

he needs also updated rootfs?

no

3:40 PM

only the GUI was problematic

3:40 PM

my build folder was stuck at 13 Aug 2022 (edited)

So I've put the files but it doesn't seem to want to update. There's no update prompt. Also the file is only 53 Mo compared to the 121 Mo of yesterday ?

where fid you put it

File does disappear when I'm reconnecting it to my computer. Sooooo something must have happened

and which file

Szybet

where fid you put it

.

This one https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/830961435122991155/1012354960287092878 in the .inkbox folder like other updates.

Did you sync before disconnecting?

safely ejected yup

Can you try one more time?

It worked for the previous updates. Just not this one.

3:59 PM

I've tried twice so far

Oh ok

weird it is

mount inkbox-update-1.9-n613.upd.isa /mnt
mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt1
cp /mnt/update.isa /mnt1/update
umount /mnt1
umount /mnt

(edited)

maybe it doesnt work for half updates?

It should

I tried twice .... and then

4:21 PM

4:25 PM

Welp I'll reinstall everything tonight I guess XD

No

4:27 PM

Somehow the signatures are wrong

4:27 PM

I'll provide you another one later

I can still reinstall 1.9 in the meantime tho ?

If you really want

I don't know how the update process work, but could it have messed up something ? Is this state stable enough for an update ?

4:37 PM

Starting with a blank slate sounds easier/safer.

Put this at [p4]/update/update.isa http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/misc/update.isa

tux-linux

Put this at [p4]/update/update.isa http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/misc/update.isa

Yup this one worked!

great

I can see the new wifi icon

did you try the new wifi framework then?

11:22 PM

credit: Szybet

I'm about to

(and me for the design part a little bit)

It "failed to get network list" once. But worked on the second try. Racing condition much ?

maybe just the adapter's fault

11:24 PM

or not

11:24 PM

haven't tried it on the Glo yet

11:24 PM

now I suppose you want to get console access

Could be useful, but before that.

11:26 PM

I can't enter my wifi passphrase as it includes symbols

even with shift key?

I didn't see it --"

Aramir

I can't enter my wifi passphrase as it includes symbols

you are the forst person i met that does that

But yes even with the shift key. I can't find the ? nor the -

oh

11:28 PM

i guess we ought to find space for those too

That's strange.... All my wifi pass phrase had symbols like those before that.

@tux-linux i dont know if you noticed but i impreved the keyboard that it doesnt move all over the screen when launching

well, at worst, create a hotspot from your phone with no special symbols in the passphrase (edited)

Szybet

@tux-linux i dont know if you noticed but i impreved the keyboard that it doesnt move all over the screen when launching

yes!

11:29 PM

HOW did you do that (edited)

11:29 PM

I searched a way for it for ages

adjustSize at start? something like that

11:29 PM

idk

11:29 PM

look at the commit

tux-linux

i guess we ought to find space for those too

no a button with another page of buttons, all special characters maybe a third click on the shift key

I m also noticing truncating error in the reader app

go into settings and enable show scrollbar as necessary

Aramir

I m also noticing truncating error in the reader app

thats exactly what i will fix

11:34 PM

good luck

good luck with that ^^. Anyways I'll stop reporting bugs and what not for now. You probably already know 90% of them and have your plate full anyways.

no, it's always ok to hear from bugs

11:38 PM

sometimes we even forget them because we're so used to them

Ok then

11:42 PM

report every one of them if you want, please

I finally found my Libra after 1 month

where was it

it had scotch'd to a magazine in a random box next to my TV

well now you can try the xorg fix

probably

kekw

tux-linux

it had scotch'd to a magazine in a random box next to my TV

lmao

woops got an error code 255 when trying to connect my Kobo Glo to my new router's wifi.

5:15 PM

any dump file/logs I need to pass ?

look at #dev, the kobo glo hd isint supported yet in the new wifi because of its wifi implementation hangs like crazy

Aramir

any dump file/logs I need to pass ?

you can pass /var/log/wifi.log if you want

it's not a glo hd but a glo

also the entire /run directory

Aramir

it's not a glo hd but a glo

oh

5:16 PM

well possibly the same problem

5:16 PM

did you enabled GUI_DEBUG before this happened?

5:17 PM

also, the most helpfull thing to fix this: how to reproduce it in 100% every time? (edited)

Szybet

did you enabled GUI_DEBUG before this happened?

I don't even know how to do. So no I'm trying to get those logs but I don't find them on either of the 4 partitions

Aramir

I don't even know how to do. So no I'm trying to get those logs but I don't find them on either of the 4 partitions

okay, boot flags on the wiki if curious

5:33 PM

if you have an old rootfs they are in /run/wifi_logs

Here's the partitions on my sd card. No /run

those isa squashfs are the filesystem

5:36 PM

+ run is a tmpfs

5:37 PM

so the logs are already gone

welp.... ok then

you need to get into shell of the device, in the future

But to do that I need to connect to wifi ^^"

5:37 PM

I'll give it another shot and see if I can reproduce the issue

Aramir

But to do that I need to connect to wifi ^^"

usbnet?

5:38 PM

serial?

5:38 PM

even telnet? ( over usb ) (edited)

But he needs to root the device

5:39 PM

Because it's a tmpfs

tux-linux

But he needs to root the device

well why he didn't already

5:40 PM

;p

connection failed, it can't get its ip address, also now the refresh wifi button is greyed out.

5:42 PM

sorry I'm breaking things again.

you cant break things that are already broken

5:43 PM

so dont worry

5:43 PM

I should worry, thats my code ;p

5:46 PM

@tux-linux has the glo the same wifi card as glo hd?

ok .... how do I root it and connect to it using usb ?

https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_information

https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/blob/main/inkbox.md

6:17 PM

get a roooted kernel

6:17 PM

well compile it

6:18 PM

and write rooted using dd somewhere

6:19 PM

niAudio/inkbox.md at main · Szybet/niAudio

Kobo nia ereader with audio added. Contribute to Szybet/niAudio development by creating an account on GitHub.

6:19 PM

a guide for the nia, figuring out for your device isint hard

I hate askign such a noob question but with the prebuilt images, which xz file do i flash first for the n705 ( mini) we had our sd card corrupt and no backup image so i thought to try this inkbox, I did successfully get the 1.0 image running but couldnt figure out the updates, as it mentioned about putting the 2 files in the .inbox folder) but the archive contained more then 2 files

5:10 PM

sadly i am running windows, but have a confident knowledge of linux if i had to daily drive it.

why did you use 1.0 image?...

5:11 PM

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/n705/

yes sir, which booted fine and usb storage mode worked

those images are 1.5

5:11 PM

righttt, i was going off the github link

5:12 PM

ummm so there is a mess

5:13 PM

our fault

5:13 PM

install 1.5

5:13 PM

@tux-linux why

so thats the one that failed and was just stuck on inkbox and didnt do anything for 30 mintues

5:14 PM

im just reformatting the card again

RDF300

so thats the one that failed and was just stuck on inkbox and didnt do anything for 30 mintues

i have no explanation for this

5:14 PM

we must wait for @tux-linux

that is fine sir. i know the art of troubleshooting, i am a project engineer at a IT Managed service Provider so i poke and prod XD

if you like to tinker and know linux you can create your own image https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/imgtool

GitHub - Kobo-InkBox/imgtool: Reproducible image builder for InkBox OS

Reproducible image builder for InkBox OS. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/imgtool development by creating an account on GitHub.

RDF300

that is fine sir. i know the art of troubleshooting, i am a project engineer at a IT Managed service Provider so i poke and prod XD

ok, good then

i might at this rate, spin up a vm

if you are in hurry you can create your own image

5:16 PM

if not, wait for tux-linux to appear

ahaha , i can lurk. been lurking in some discord for anbernic rg350 images too

5:18 PM

i do love it when manufactures have sd cards rather then soldered storage

not all kobos have sd cards

5:18 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

shame on you kobo ! XD

5:19 PM

fyi found all this from the mobileread forums which linked to the github, so i am glad i joined the cord (edited)

@dill you have a mini right?

yeah

how did you installed inkbox on it

flashed image onto the MicroSD

which one

which version?

which image

5:25 PM

file

oh 1.5 back a while ago

5:25 PM

from here?

5:25 PM

and it worked?

before that it was the alpha

yea it worked the second time, no panic sorry

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Szybet

MobileRead Forums - View Single Post - InkBox: a new open-source O...

no before the website was made

oh okay

RDF300

yea it worked the second time, no panic sorry

so it works?

yeah

now?

5:26 PM

and you know how to update to 1.9?

yeah they said it works

from 1.5 go to 1.6 then 1.9

yea

exactly :p

the instructions say about moving 2 files, so i am guessing its the .isa file within the xz archive

@dill ? idk about that

5:27 PM

i neved updated inkbox ;p

um

5:27 PM

wait

i hope the 1.9 sorts the ui scale on the inkbox settings page

for 1.9 there are massive improvments for everything

5:28 PM

for 2.0 that isint ready yet even more

thought so, i hope wi-fi is in 1.9

i think you put the isa file and can_update into .inkbox folder

1

ahhh can update

yeah

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/update/Update-HOWTO suggested small wording update on this then

RDF300

i hope the 1.9 sorts the ui scale on the inkbox settings page

i dont know about this, if it isin't there, you can: 1. say exactly whats the problem, describe it, create a github issue 2. fix it yourself. its qt / cpp

RDF300

thought so, i hope wi-fi is in 1.9

i think for 2.0 its there, right @dill ?

RDF300

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/update/Update-HOWTO suggested small wording update on this then

i don't remember exactly. maybe you only need the .isa

i know its an in development thing so im not kicking and screaming its not there

Szybet

i think for 2.0 its there, right @dill ?

pretty sure nicolas added WiFi to 2.0 yeah

RDF300

i know its an in development thing so im not kicking and screaming its not there

it took him a lot of wrestling with linux but i think he got it

RDF300

i know its an in development thing so im not kicking and screaming its not there

created mainly by 1 student, another one is helping. There are also a few people helping with more problematic stuff / porting it

Szybet

created mainly by 1 student, another one is helping. There are also a few people helping with more problematic stuff / porting it

youre a student?

im the age of nicolas

5:32 PM

so yea

ohhh nice!

5:32 PM

you're both still older than me

5:32 PM

:D

LOL (edited)

i feel like him right now

dont worry im a stupid 14 year old

Szybet

created mainly by 1 student, another one is helping. There are also a few people helping with more problematic stuff / porting it

you can for sure share bugs / problems you discover, its very welcome. You can complain about them too, if you fix them yourself then ;p

i regret not continuing with my pic programming when i was at school

5:33 PM

got stuck as an it engineer not a developer

RDF300

i regret not continuing with my pic programming when i was at school

its never late to learn something

oh yea, i know currently learning CCNA

dill

you're both still older than me

we are waiting for you to learn qt / cpp

i am very stupid and incapable of learn

5:35 PM

ing

now i can see where i was confused, as on the github i downloaded and flashed 1.0, then tryed the 1.1 upgrade

5:35 PM

but now im on 1.5 the folder for 1.6 makes more sense, as it acually has 2 files in it ahaha

flash 1.5, upgrade to 1.6 then 1.9

dill

i am very stupid and incapable of learn

you are young, young people learn the easiest

2.0 will be a complete image

the young mind is a sponge

for programming you need a bit of math, imagination and a lot of free time and will

Szybet

for programming you need a bit of math, imagination and a lot of free time and will

i have 0 free time

yea i see

even though im young

you didnt tested sanki yet

dill

i have 0 free time

can i ask why?

yeah exactly

ahaha i just opened the .inkbox made me laugh

RDF300

ahaha i just opened the .inkbox made me laugh

i think inkbox is sure it can update

Szybet

can i ask why?

school, teaching religion, taking a high-level course outside of school, and martial arts (although i have a broken leg right now)

okay

not to mention my parents don't like me using the internet lol

dill

not to mention my parents don't like me using the internet lol

oh my god

because i'm "too young"

Szybet

oh my god

not that bad i can use it for maybe an hour or two

5:40 PM

in a day

no offense, horrible parents i would say

not really, theyre just over protective

Szybet

no offense, horrible parents i would say

no offense taken :p

5:41 PM

i get what you mean

dill

not really, theyre just over protective

exactly, this is bad

yeah

whats the age of adulthood in canada?

18

the only evilness i would do is have a wi-fi network for my children that is separate to mine, has some dns filtering on and set it to change the password weekly so that chores are done XD

1

in 4 years you will be a grown men now you can use internet more than 2 hours

but I HAVE A JOB and IM ALLOWED TO DRIVE

come on!!

Szybet

in 4 years you will be a grown men now you can use internet more than 2 hours

lol

RDF300

the only evilness i would do is have a wi-fi network for my children that is separate to mine, has some dns filtering on and set it to change the password weekly so that chores are done XD

your poor kids

5:42 PM

lol

dill

your poor kids

no

don't you remind me when i got on a united flight and wanted beer and they denied it to me

wait your kids wanted beer?

i was like errr i ve been drinking for 3 years

ohhh ok

no when i was 20

if you dont mind, which country do you live in?

RDF300

the only evilness i would do is have a wi-fi network for my children that is separate to mine, has some dns filtering on and set it to change the password weekly so that chores are done XD

you are helping your kids to learn computer science ;p

true

yea , ill leave it as wpa and let them learn to crack the password with rainbow tables

dill

if you dont mind, which country do you live in?

id say america because you were on united airlines

5:44 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

but i had been drinking for 3 years legally

lmao

united kingdom

ohhh nice!

kinda, people have gone crazy since friday

I'm in the maple syrup country

yea , gonna need some new notes XD

RDF300

kinda, people have gone crazy since friday

yeah it's an unexplainable sad feeling...

gonna move to off topic now

alright

dill

I'm in the maple syrup country

Qubec

no, tux-linux is in quebec :D

5:46 PM

i'm in alberta

so getting back on topic, i can go from 1.6 to 1.9

Szybet

@tux-linux has the glo the same wifi card as glo hd?

yes

hey tux

Szybet

our fault

I don't see what's wrong

its more there is an 1.0 and rc1 in there too

yeah go for 1.5

dill

i think you put the isa file and can_update into .inkbox folder

you don't need to touch can_update

2

i origionally picked the 1.0 becuse it was the bigger image

tux-linux

you don't need to touch can_update

ok, my memory was a little fuzzy

dill

pretty sure nicolas added WiFi to 2.0 yeah

yes

yells\ yayyyyyyyyyyyy

RDF300

ahaha i just opened the .inkbox made me laugh

can_really_update means the user said I want to update can_update means the software has detected that an update is available

ahhh i knew it was something to do with that . had similar embedded devices before with a file that tells it can do it

can_really_update can be should_update then

RDF300

yea , ill leave it as wpa and let them learn to crack the password with rainbow tables

welp

ahaha

Weeda

Qubec

bonjour

tux-linux

I don't see what's wrong

i though there was a mess with the images

tux-linux

bonjour

i can barely speak french but i understand a lot of written french

5:56 PM

canada

sad i do not have a breakout cable for (corrcet me if i am wrong) the jtag port on the back on the mini

jtag?

5:59 PM

oh

5:59 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

serial, uart port it is

1

RDF300

sad i do not have a breakout cable for (corrcet me if i am wrong) the jtag port on the back on the mini

you don't need that much only uart is fine

ahhh fine, i think i had the correct cable that would allow me to see console ( that i used to program the bootloader on my einsy rambo 3d printer motherboard

6:03 PM

but i have no clue where that cable is

hint: tear down an ethernet cable

6:06 PM

~~you don't even need to solder it~~ don't solder it (edited)

or get some normal cables and solder them how it should be done

oh and into a usb header ?

6:08 PM

yea i need to learn how to submit bug reports. as the settings menu on a kobo mini still have the scroll bars

RDF300

yea i need to learn how to submit bug reports. as the settings menu on a kobo mini still have the scroll bars

already in the todo, it will be fixed

1

RDF300

oh and into a usb header ?

what no

Szybet

what no

thats my noob comming out

tux-linux

~~you don't even need to solder it~~ don't solder it (edited)

cf. ... this https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/934478430903337020/1013149195491876914

tux-linux

cf. ... this https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/934478430903337020/1013149195491876914

well XD

6:10 PM

you need to have a bit of skill

yea. man i need to find that cable i legit need it to reflash a bios on my tablet

bios on tablet?....

probably u-boot but he doesn't know it yet

maybe its an x86 tablet ;p

that would be really surprising

6:12 PM

but it could (edited)

linx 10 it might be as it is x86 bios which is hella stupid

interesting

right its just a usbasp

1

6:21 PM

mind blown with geany, please dont tell me you support usb otg ?

usb otg is supported with external power supply

6:21 PM

I never tried it

ah right i do not have a powered hub

RDF300

mind blown with geany, please dont tell me you support usb otg ?

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/kobox/extensions/ some other extensions you might like

c64......

6:22 PM

what was someone thinking

6:23 PM

i'm guessing they get put in the .inkbox folder ?

example https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4229108&postcount=82

MobileRead - the resource for mobile geeks seeking information and advice for keeping their gadgets happy.

RDF300

i'm guessing they get put in the .inkbox folder ?

no, open KoBox settings

ah nope you go into kobox......

6:24 PM

yeaaaaa, i have only seen this product for ahout an hour so yea

tux-linux

Backup everything that is currently in your onboard storage Boot on an Ubuntu LiveDVD Extend partition 4 of your microSD with a tool like gparted then

mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt
rm /mnt/onboard
dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/onboard bs=1M count=<nb. of mb you want, 1024=1G>
sync
sync
umount /mnt

this

7:04 PM

@tux-linux

yes, it's not great for the mmc

and? i want more storage, everyone else too

i think i can use disk genius to achieve this on windows

noone will install inkbox if you say only 1G storage on a device that on stock had 8G

RDF300

i think i can use disk genius to achieve this on windows

dont

RDF300

i think i can use disk genius to achieve this on windows

don't

mine's a miini and its already using a third party sdcard

7:06 PM

ohhhhh yeaaaa i do remember why

7:06 PM

its looking at specific start and end blocks right

Szybet

noone will install inkbox if you say only 1G storage on a device that on stock had 8G

also, this process is extremely long

7:06 PM

can take like 5 minutes for 1G

i dont remember it taking long

Szybet

noone will install inkbox if you say only 1G storage on a device that on stock had 8G

still.

7:07 PM

just lets make bigger images

it's cpu-heavy for the device, plus mmc heavy

thought so,

Szybet

just lets make bigger images

and what? rule out everyone that has only 4g sd cards? (edited)

custom images i said

7:08 PM

diffrent sizes for diffrent devices

Szybet

noone will install inkbox if you say only 1G storage on a device that on stock had 8G

first, people don't know that until they install it, and second, I have received almost no complaints about it

Szybet

diffrent sizes for diffrent devices

yay, let's fill up the server's storage space

i know the rg350 custom firmware had it built in to expand the storage which took a while too

tux-linux

first, people don't know that until they install it, and second, I have received almost no complaints about it

lets dont make idiots from people me, this gui above, RDF, me x2

tux-linux

yay, let's fill up the server's storage space

its called compression, perfect for this

you aren't taking into account that the images will literally be duplicated

7:10 PM

even if the onboard file weighs 128K on the xz file

tux-linux

you aren't taking into account that the images will literally be duplicated

?

i can still be here using inkbox for testing and will try to learn to help, but i think ill reflash my origional kobo image and expand the storage

testers are really welcome

7:12 PM

we have none of them currently soo

RDF300

i can still be here using inkbox for testing and will try to learn to help, but i think ill reflash my origional kobo image and expand the storage

but you can expand the storage on inkbox

Szybet

?

i await explanation

an xz-compressed system image file contains the OS itself and the onboard storage file, in about 780M size if you want different sizes, let's say 1, 4, 8 and 16G, you would have to make 4 system images for every device, for 7 devices => 7 * (4 * 780) = 21 840M (edited)

what? no...

7:20 PM

lets only support the stock size

Szybet

custom images i said

then why did you say that

yes , i know that the anbernic rg350 custom firmware people has a script that ran after the install to detect the full sd card size and run a re-size

tux-linux

then why did you say that

well you misunderstood

i think it used a file (similar to your can_update) to detect that the resizer script had been run already

Szybet

well you misunderstood

you really think having the user wait for 15m after the first inkbox image flash is a good idea?

;_ ;

7:22 PM

its already bigger in the image that they flash (edited)

7:22 PM

into the sd card

we are not kobo we don't have money

where money is needed to do that

store the images?

compression?

Szybet

its already bigger in the image that they flash (edited)

in their image it's a partition, not a file

7:24 PM

it's much easier to resize and does not damage the mmc a lot (edited)

tux-linux

you really think having the user wait for 15m after the first inkbox image flash is a good idea?

you already excluded this solution

yes, resizing a partition takes seconds (edited)

so... what solution would you accept then

tux-linux

you really think having the user wait for 15m after the first inkbox image flash is a good idea?

maybe not on initial boot but a button in settings with a warning popup ?

options

switch to gpt and create p5 for onboard (probably going to be a mess)
make an extended partition for p4 and p5 which would be onboard, translated: p4 is extended, p5 is user, p6 is onboard (will probably be a mess too)

(edited)

sorry to open a can of worms

everything is filled with worms here

tux-linux

options

switch to gpt and create p5 for onboard (probably going to be a mess)
make an extended partition for p4 and p5 which would be onboard, translated: p4 is extended, p5 is user, p6 is onboard (will probably be a mess too)

(edited)

well okay, but this would be really complicated to implement

the question is not whether or when a problem will occur, it's how many will occur

i would still want bigger images

Szybet

i would still want bigger images

the simplest, easiest solution...

RDF300

maybe not on initial boot but a button in settings with a warning popup ?

this is a fair solution

1

well true

a thing we need to do in 2023 is to design and sell our own device because almost no one is interested in inkbox currently

well lets make the software first good

looks like im gonna have to buy a new device or stay with inkbox the backup image i have is ols , and kobo desktop app is refusing to download the updater

https://pgaskin.net/KoboStuff/kobofirmware.html ?

Kobo Firmware Downloads

Get the latest automatically-updated links to firmware releases and release notes for Kobo devices, or download older firmware versions. To install an update, extract the zip file into the .kobo folder on your device.

8:28 PM

idk about what you are talking about

DAMN your on poinmt

i'm not sure it will solve his problem

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

dunno, thjere was an update released in 2018 that was required

8:30 PM

so the main boards are pretty much all the same ?

8:30 PM

sorry wrong chat

well as soon as i put that in i rebooted and bricked time to pull out the sd again

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o86b3JbVDKVWN3NTVyTXVqMXM/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-xYiamyJZZAqWZWRAMwhmzg Try flashing this

Kobo_Mini_DiskImage.zip

8:40 PM

you have a mini right?

yes, and niceeeeeeeee a tiny version

it's the late davidfor that imaged it not me

all i have is the version i made before upgrading the sd card and it was 4GB

8:43 PM

ohhh yeaaa

8:43 PM

the last image i got a pm from hin was 4GB

8:44 PM

is there anything i had to do with the serial number ?

8:44 PM

trying to remember the instructions

8:44 PM

ah no it is that image i am burning

i love the message about not forgetting to safely eject it

1

right on 1.6 and there is no can update file, is that an issue ?

probably not

1

updating to that 1.9 and gives me a secuity policy violated

9:37 PM

ooooo crap, on a mini its sidewards

http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/images/n705/inkbox-1.9-n705.img.xz then try to flash this (just remembered) image and then update with the package I sent you

okey dokey

ooo i like the loading bar

1

report number 1, i cant hit okay on the infomation box

whaaat

10:07 PM

@tux-linux

oh

10:07 PM

stop pinging me

10:07 PM

i read messages

i will sorry

RDF300

i will sorry

i pinged him?

tux-linux

stop pinging me

well sure

1

install linux on your computer, then rm [p4 of the sd card]/update/inkbox_updated

ahahaha

tux-linux

install linux on your computer, then rm [p4 of the sd card]/update/inkbox_updated

why is it needed

because the changelog for 1.9 was so big that the message box overflowed the screen size

yea i get it, just a 4 letter word with the 6th character of the apahabet

10:09 PM

its more its really thin, too

?

tux-linux

because the changelog for 1.9 was so big that the message box overflowed the screen size

10:10 PM

avoid this for 2.0

10:10 PM

or... enable the scroll bar?

the message was only using the middle third of the screen

it's an archaic message box

right the reset button fixed that

10:12 PM

let me look at the git hub for the bugs and let you know if something is new in the bugs section

10:13 PM

oo new .folders too

RDF300

let me look at the git hub for the bugs and let you know if something is new in the bugs section

first ask us on #bugs if we already know about it, if not you are welcome to create an issue

1

ah fair

10:16 PM

Shit, i cant connect to my wi-fi

10:16 PM

i need a - and its not on the keyboard

we have this problem in out todo already :)

10:17 PM

you are the second person complaining

lol yea i saw. not complaining im more like oh crap woops on me

RDF300

lol yea i saw. not complaining im more like oh crap woops on me

i say "complaining" only because of my lack of english words

i think i crashed it opening my first epub

propably already fixed?........ please sent this epub to us

did you update with my update package

yes sir

what epub then

ccna

10:20 PM

i can pm you too,

im testing it

10:20 PM

give me some time

tiz good, i like being the tester

for being a tester, you need to compile the kernel and everything else yourself...

10:21 PM

well the kernel is most important

ahhh ok, yea i can look at doing that

installing linux first would be a good start

-.- yes mom

1

how do you want to compile the whole inkbox system without a linux OS?

is it the epub reader and ui scale thay keeps the page with the larger black font before downscaling it ?

https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/958419944243089479/1018189193102503998

RDF300

is it the epub reader and ui scale thay keeps the page with the larger black font before downscaling it ?

dont use the ui scale

1

10:25 PM

i dont even know why it exists in the first place

accessibility?

fair, i noticed within the epub reader if you go into settings and hit the I the okay button is still faint, but i know thats becuse of the e ink display not going through a full refresh

tux-linux

accessibility?

it doesnt work good

RDF300

fair, i noticed within the epub reader if you go into settings and hit the I the okay button is still faint, but i know thats becuse of the e ink display not going through a full refresh

einks fault, yes

nice, took me a few secs on how to close out of a book but its all intuiative to a tech user

10:31 PM

takes some time to open because its a huge book

ah fair with the ui scale off it keeps cutting off buttons sometimes

Szybet

it doesnt work good

as i said

10:32 PM

maybe it could be removed for 2.0?

10:32 PM

tux-linux?

no

D:

well no i turned it off

maybe a warning?

RDF300

well no i turned it off

that will be removed

1

it doesnt work good?

you need to turn it on and set it to scale 1

10:33 PM

that is the default scale

im gonna have to agree that being able to change the ui scale to different sizes stays (edited)

tux-linux

that will be removed

add it to todo please

the 'turned off' scaling is nonsensical, it worked for devices running Nickel back in mar 2021 but now Nickel support is obsolete

that is fair

10:35 PM

the flash of the larger text in black then it changing to the smaller text again is a known thing to do ?

RDF300

the flash of the larger text in black then it changing to the smaller text again is a known thing to do ?

https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/958419944243089479/1018189193102503998

i'm sorry im annoying you

I didn't say anything

(edited)

i know, i just know peoples headache of reapeating stuff when the "user" is lazy and doesnt read everything

I did send you the same thing moments ago though

yes

tux-linux

everything is filled with worms here

Dill has entered the chat and can confirm, my head is full of worms

1

I was more talking about the software rather than the people tho (edited)

Even after symlinking the kernel directory to /home/build/inkbox/kernel (edited)

10:42 PM

It doesn't work

well the error message dissapeared

https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-add-directory-to-path-in-linux/

6.09 KB

10:43 PM

Yes, i noticed i've sent the wrong one, sorry

thats weird

10:43 PM

add toolchain/arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf/bin/ to your PATH env variable

10:43 PM

How to Add a Directory to PATH in Linux

When you type a command, the shell searches through all directories specified in the user $PATH variable for an executable file of that name. This article shows how to add directories to your `PATH in Linux systems.

10:43 PM

like that

Still the same error

10:47 PM

I'm running this commands inside the docker container

can you execute arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf-gcc?

Might it be the problem?

no, not really

Szybet

can you execute arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf-gcc?

does the command exist

Szybet

can you execute arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf-gcc?

Yes

10:47 PM

It does

10:48 PM

arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf-gcc: fatal error: no input files
compilation terminated.

you use this command?

env GITDIR="${PWD}" TOOLCHAINDIR="${PWD}/toolchain/arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf/" THREADS=$(($(nproc)*2)) TARGET=arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf scripts/build_kernel.sh n306 root

Yeah, i've tried that one and this one

sudo env GITDIR="${PWD}" TOOLCHAINDIR="$PATH" THREADS=$(($(nproc)*2)) TARGET=arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf scripts/build_kernel.sh n306 root

dont use sudo

ManuXD32

Yeah, i've tried that one and this one

sudo env GITDIR="${PWD}" TOOLCHAINDIR="$PATH" THREADS=$(($(nproc)*2)) TARGET=arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf scripts/build_kernel.sh n306 root

this one is bad

oops

Szybet

you use this command?

env GITDIR="${PWD}" TOOLCHAINDIR="${PWD}/toolchain/arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf/" THREADS=$(($(nproc)*2)) TARGET=arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf scripts/build_kernel.sh n306 root

try this one

okay

Okay, i think the problem was that my folder had a space on its name

11:01 PM

But now i get a new error

ManuXD32

Okay, i think the problem was that my folder had a space on its name

thats stupid

11:01 PM

but possible

http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/n306/

8.03 KB

Szybet

thats stupid

I am stupid hahahahha

ManuXD32

I am stupid hahahahha

no, the script has flaws

Szybet

no, the script has flaws

That's another point of view hahaha

you are executing everything from the kernel dir right?

11:05 PM

also ls /home/build/inkbox/kernel/initrd/

Szybet

you are executing everything from the kernel dir right?

from "kernel-master" folder which has kernel, script, toolchain folders in it along others

Szybet

also ls /home/build/inkbox/kernel/initrd/

show me the output

Szybet

also ls /home/build/inkbox/kernel/initrd/

ls: cannot access '/home/build/inkbox/kernel/initrd/': No such file or directory

ls /home/build/inkbox/?

ls /home/build/inkbox/kernel shows this:

config           linux-2.6.35.3        linux-2.6.35.3-spt1  linux-3.0.35-n437   linux-4.1.15-n306  linux-5.15.10    modules
linux-2.6.31-kt  linux-2.6.35.3-n905b  linux-3.0.35-n236    linux-4.1.15-libra  linux-5.10.89      linux-5.16-n249  out

noooo

Szybet

ls /home/build/inkbox/?

kernel

you symlinked it wrong

Gonna cry hahahah

home/build/inkbox/kernel should point to your kernel-master dir

ohhhhh okay

11:10 PM

AT LAST IT WORKED!!!

11:11 PM

Now i just have to flash it and see if it works, right?

no

11:11 PM

its more complicated

oops hahahaha

can you estabalish a serial connection?

11:12 PM

well bad english

What do you mean by that??

just make and serial connection

11:12 PM

uart

11:12 PM

are you familiar with it?

Nope

11:12 PM

Does it require tinkering with the motherboard?

a bit

11:13 PM

but well we can go without it

11:13 PM

it will be just trickier

Better, wish i ken how to do that hahahah

11:13 PM

knew*

you have the sd card right?

Yup

did you made a backup?

11:13 PM

you have inkbox installed right?

I used another sd card

Szybet

you have inkbox installed right?

Yes

okay good

11:14 PM

well clone the rootfs repo from github

11:15 PM

@tux-linux actually, how to replace the key in inkbox?

Szybet

well clone the rootfs repo from github

From inkbox repo?

yes

11:16 PM

from the same organisation

11:17 PM

I used this one

11:17 PM

So there's no repo

11:18 PM

But one of the sd partitions is named rootfs

11:18 PM

Can i use those files?

11:18 PM

im talking about this

11:19 PM

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/rootfs

GitHub - Kobo-InkBox/rootfs: InkBox OS root filesystem

InkBox OS root filesystem. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/rootfs development by creating an account on GitHub.

Oh okay, sorry

11:20 PM

Done!

you want to be able to compile sanki yourself, right?

Yup, that would be nice

https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/blob/main/apps-on-kobo/qt-setup.md

niAudio/qt-setup.md at main · Szybet/niAudio

Kobo nia ereader with audio added. Contribute to Szybet/niAudio development by creating an account on GitHub.

11:21 PM

here is a detailed guide i made

11:21 PM

there is a script too

11:21 PM

you need to do all of that

Okay!

Szybet

@tux-linux actually, how to replace the key in inkbox?

probaly this?

Szybet

https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/blob/main/apps-on-kobo/qt-setup.md

Hey, i'm have¡ing a little trouble with this

11:41 PM

I'm getting this error:

11:41 PM

checking for GNU sed >= 4.0... yes
checking for gcc... /home/manuel/x-tools/arm-kobo-linux-gnueabihf/bin/arm-kobo-linux-gnueabihf-gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/home/manuel/Escritorio/pro/sanki/koxtoolchain-master/build/CT-NG':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details

you are trying openssl?

When runing this: ./gen-tc.sh kobo

oh ok

Szybet

you are trying openssl?

Not yet

11:43 PM

I've dug into the config.log file

11:43 PM

But i don't find anything useful (for me)

https://askubuntu.com/questions/647583/how-to-fix-configure-error-c-compiler-cannot-create-executables

how to fix configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables

used ./configure DFLAGS="-03" and this is the config.log checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking target system type... i686-pc-

11:43 PM

?

I think it might be the header

11:47 PM

Gonna try it

11:51 PM

Same error

11:51 PM

Also i'm not using ./cong¡fig DFLASG command

ManuXD32

Also i'm not using ./cong¡fig DFLASG command

it has nothing to do with it

oops

do you have installed libstdc++?

yes

are you sure?

yeah

11:54 PM

do you have those?

git
ncurses
gperf
help2man
bison
texinfo
flex
gawk
unzip

Yeah

11:54 PM

I installed those dependencies beforehand

try it in the debian container then

i'm using the distrobox container

you need to install every dependience in the container too

I know, i've installed them inside the container

im out of ideas

11:58 PM

show me config.log

config.log

15.91 KB

what is in /home/manuel/x-tools/arm-kobo-linux-gnueabihf/bin/arm-kobo-linux-gnueabihf-gcc: No such file or directory

11:59 PM

thats an error

11:59 PM

actually

11:59 PM

you maybe need to symlink too?...

But the directory /home/manuel/x-tools does not exist

you need to symlink it too then

What should i symlink here

your x-tools directory

I don't have that directory as it hasn't been created after running the script

try to run everything with root

okay

Looks like i als ¡o needed this library ncurses-devel

does it work?

It's still in progress

okay, good

12:12 AM

you can make a pull request later to the guide that for fedora this is needed

Oh yeah, gonna do it

Szybet

@tux-linux actually, how to replace the key in inkbox?

/opt/key.sqsh in initrd

why is it a squashfs

So that it can mount to the rootfs and not be writable?

12:57 AM

Also it contains other keys

12:58 AM

User apps key and kobox key

okay

Hello again

1:15 AM

I'm at this step

1:15 AM

Compile qt app for kobo

1:15 AM

But cd /inkbox/repo does not exist

1:15 AM

Where am i suppossed to get it?

thats the repo of the qt app you want to compile

1:19 AM

im going to sleep, i can help you tommorow more

Okayy

1:19 AM

Good night!!

1:19 AM

Thank you so much!

Hey!

12:42 PM

Good morning!!

good morning

I'm still trying to compile Sanki, but i keep getting this error when running "make"

12:44 PM

https://github.com/Szybet/gui-bundle/tree/main

201 bytes

you need the zip library

12:44 PM

but for now you need your self compiled inkbox

I've got the kernel compiled and downloades the rootfs

12:46 PM

How should i continue?

unsquash key.sqsh in the kernel repo at this path

OKay, i got this applications-public.pem kobox-graphic-public.pem kobox-nographic-public.pem public.pem

now you need to generate your own keys

12:53 PM

and create a copy of key.sqsh but with your keys

12:54 PM

names must be identical

I've got no idea about how to generate those keys

openssl genrsa -out private.pem 2048
openssl rsa -in private.pem -out public.pem -outform PEM -pubout

1:04 PM

something like that

1:04 PM

you need to use public keys in the squash

1:04 PM

and you cant loose your private ones

Okay, so now i've got this two keys private.pem public.pem

ManuXD32

OKay, i got this applications-public.pem kobox-graphic-public.pem kobox-nographic-public.pem public.pem

So i replace the public.pem in here

1:07 PM

With the one i just generated

yes

Right?

and do the same for all of the keys

1:07 PM

generate 4 keys in total

Okay

Szybet

openssl genrsa -out private.pem 2048
openssl rsa -in private.pem -out public.pem -outform PEM -pubout

So now i've generated this: applications-public.pem kobox-graphic-public.pem kobox-nographic-public.pem private.pem public.pem Using the second command here but changing "public.pem" for the other names

1:09 PM

Now i have to squashfs it into a key.sqsh

1:09 PM

Right?

yes

1:10 PM

did you used 4 diffrent keys?

But taking out the private.pem

Szybet

did you used 4 diffrent keys?

I used this command openssl rsa -in private.pem -out kobox-nographic-public.pem -outform PEM -pubout

1:11 PM

But changing kobox-nographic-public.pem for the other names

1:15 PM

Do i need to make a different private.pem for all of the keys?

ManuXD32

Do i need to make a different private.pem for all of the keys?

i think not actually

1:15 PM

you can use one for all

1:15 PM

but be sure the name is good

Yup, the name is the correct

1:16 PM

do i delete the previous key.sqsh?

1:16 PM

To replace it with the new one

yes

1:18 PM

be sure then you unsquash it its the same as the previous

Done

1:19 PM

Their good

1:19 PM

They're

now recompile the kernel

Okay

1:21 PM

On it!

1:23 PM

Done

now the rootfs

1:25 PM

run env GITDIR="${PWD}" ./release.sh as root user in roofts repo

Okay

after this, sign it with your key openssl dgst -sha256 -sign private.pem -out rootfs.squashfs.dgst rootfs.squashfs

Szybet

you need the zip library

Did he actually upgrade to a dev version of inkbox yet?

Szybet

after this, sign it with your key openssl dgst -sha256 -sign private.pem -out rootfs.squashfs.dgst rootfs.squashfs

Done

tux-linux

Did he actually upgrade to a dev version of inkbox yet?

I don't thinks so

tux-linux

Did he actually upgrade to a dev version of inkbox yet?

what

ManuXD32

Done

now only the update package for gui i think, right? @tux-linux

Oh ok I think only GUI bundle is missing now

good

1:30 PM

clone https://github.com/Szybet/gui-bundle/tree/main

Okay!

and there is a guide, and hints how to do things (edited)

1:30 PM

which arent in the main repo for some reason ;p

Thank you so much!

Szybet

which arent in the main repo for some reason ;p

Time

Szybet

i think not actually

Yes, I have different private keys for every of them (edited)

1:32 PM

Btw, dev mode exists

1:32 PM

But if they got that far they can continue to the end (edited)

tux-linux

Yes, I have different private keys for every of them (edited)

So do i need to rebuild the keys and recompile the kernel?

It's not needed for now

Oh okay

If you have your key for at least the main packages it's fine

tux-linux

Time

what

Nice

Szybet

what

(lack of) time

tux-linux

Btw, dev mode exists

he isint a developer

Yeah, well, true

tux-linux

(lack of) time

okay... its there for 5 months i think

I don't know how to crosscompile things in build

look in the niAudio guide i send you

1:39 PM

just as with sanki you tried

1:39 PM

but you need to do this in qtcreator

1:39 PM

its the prefered way

qmake && make

no

1:51 PM

he need release

1:51 PM

+ qmake will be used from his main system path which is bad

On Gentoo it's qmake5 for system And it produces a release build by default (at least for InkBox)

yea gentoo manages better versions

1:53 PM

but for centos, fedora propably too its fucked

1:53 PM

with a new version, they move all versions and kill all backwards compability

Btw qt6 is really hard to compile It's really different from 5

lets stay on 5

1:55 PM

6 can even run on this old glibc?

It seems

Szybet

lets stay on 5

We will have to move some day

not now

1:55 PM

i want 2.0 :(

Well, i think i'm a mess right now

5:48 PM

Hahahahha

Szybet

but you need to do this in qtcreator

I've been trying to make this work for over 40 minutes

5:48 PM

But i'm not able to

whats the problem

If all pf the things that i've done before are ok

5:49 PM

I'm lost here

5:49 PM

5:50 PM

I've created the launch_app.sh file

its for runing things on the kobo from qtcreator

5:50 PM

its not needed

5:50 PM

skip this step

oh

5:50 PM

Okay

5:51 PM

So now comes the "Install your custom Qt to kobo" step

you need to be only able to build

5:51 PM

also skip it

Szybet

you need to be only able to build

^

Okay

5:52 PM

Guess that i'm not able to

what are your kits

5:53 PM

I've copied everything from the guide

well click run cmake

why run cmake

5:54 PM

i don't even use cmake

5:54 PM

you do?

Szybet

well click run cmake

5:54 PM

Error

um

6:00 PM

idk

6:00 PM

install ninja on your system

what are you even trying to compile

Nothing, Szybet told me to make sure i can run cmake

it seems you are trying to compile something which requires qt translations but then you aren't compiling anything idk

Maybe it's because i made a proyect

6:04 PM

Gonna delete it

6:06 PM

So

6:07 PM

Now the "build" tab is grey

6:07 PM

And i can't use it

what's qmake --version

QMake version 3.1
Using Qt version 5.15.2 in /home/manuel/qt-bin/qt-linux-5.15.2-kobo/lib

just cd into sanki directory

6:09 PM

then

6:09 PM

qmake && make -j8

6:09 PM

will probably work

I've got an error

6:10 PM

main_menu/mainwindow.cpp:11:10: fatal error: zip.h: No such file or directory
   11 | #include "zip.h"
      |          ^~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
make: *** [Makefile:3720: mainwindow.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
In file included from components/toast.cpp:5:
./globals.h: In function 'void global_fun::set_brightness(int)':
./globals.h:97:36: warning: unused parameter 'value' [-Wunused-parameter]
   97 |     inline void set_brightness(int value) {
      |                                ~~~~^~~~~

you need to cross-compile libzip

How do i?

6:10 PM

libzip is already installed

6:10 PM

In case it has something to do

no

6:12 PM

GitHub - Szybet/gui-bundle: InkBox GUI bundle contents and generati...

InkBox GUI bundle contents and generation script. Contribute to Szybet/gui-bundle development by creating an account on GitHub.

6:12 PM

do this

6:12 PM

so compile inkbox

I tried, but i'm stuck at the second step

6:13 PM

Bc of the crosscompiling thing

tux-linux

qmake && make -j8

do that in inkbox dir, oobe-inkbox dir and lockscreen dir

Okay

btw, clone Szybet's rootfs repo because I didn't merge Wi-Fi yet (Glo HD issues)

tux-linux

do that in inkbox dir, oobe-inkbox dir and lockscreen dir

Done

tux-linux

btw, clone Szybet's rootfs repo because I didn't merge Wi-Fi yet (Glo HD issues)

Also done

6:15 PM

Hahahahha

did you clone my gui-bundle repo or szybet's one? (edited)

szybet's one

show the contest of all build dirs

Build_inkbox

https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Boot_error_codes

4.68 KB

6:27 PM

build_lockscreen/
Makefile   eink.qss    lockscreen.cpp  lockscreen.o    lockscreen.ui  main.o              moc_lockscreen.o  qrc_resources.cpp  resources.qrc
README.md  lockscreen  lockscreen.h    lockscreen.pro  main.cpp       moc_lockscreen.cpp  moc_predefs.h     qrc_resources.o    ui_lockscreen.h

6:28 PM

build_oobe-inkbox/
Bitter-Medium.ttf          NotoMono-Regular.ttf    crimson.ttf     left-black.png  main.o              oobe-inkbox      oobewindow.o       resources.qrc
IbarraRealNova-Medium.ttf  README.md               eink.qss        left-gray.png   moc_oobewindow.cpp  oobe-inkbox.pro  oobewindow.ui      right-black.png
LICENSE                    checkbox-checked.png    fraunces.ttf    list.png        moc_oobewindow.o    oobewindow.cpp   qrc_resources.cpp  right-white.png
Makefile                   checkbox-unchecked.png  kobox-icon.png  main.cpp        moc_predefs.h       oobewindow.h     qrc_resources.o    ui_oobewindow.h

i dont se the executable in inkbox?

I's there, but the witten message is cut

6:30 PM

Sorry

6:30 PM

It is shown on the left column of the image

What should i do now

7:08 PM

?

oh okay

7:09 PM

you should create now your update.isa

7:09 PM

sudo GITDIR=${PWD} ./release.sh ../private.pem 1.9

7:10 PM

something like that (edited)

ManuXD32

What should i do now

sorry for not replying, im fighting with niaudio

Don't worry, i don't wanna bother u either

Szybet

sudo GITDIR=${PWD} ./release.sh ../private.pem 1.9

use the appropriate key

Yup

7:11 PM

Done

did it work?

yeah

did you recompiled the kernel with your keys?

Yes

did you runned the rootfs with my repo?

Nope

7:12 PM

Don't know how to do that

i already said it

7:13 PM

but with my repo

7:13 PM

not inkbox one

Oh okay, let me see

7:14 PM

Sorry

ManuXD32

Sorry

no need to apologize

Okay

7:21 PM

Done!

everything?

Yup

8:23 PM

Just runned the rootfs

8:23 PM

So now i've got the rootfs.squashfs.dgst

you signed it?

Yes

good

8:24 PM

now

8:24 PM

connect the sd card

8:24 PM

to pc

Done

dd if=zImage-root of=/dev/sdcard bs=512 seek=81920

8:25 PM

thats hwo you write the kernel

8:25 PM

on partition 3 you replace rootfs.squash and rootfs.squash.sqst with your files

8:26 PM

on p4 you put your update.isa in update folder ( it already exists )

Szybet

on partition 3 you replace rootfs.squash and rootfs.squash.sqst with your files

Can't write on it

on the partition?

Yup

your user doesnt have access to them for some reason

8:28 PM

use root

okay

Szybet

on partition 3 you replace rootfs.squash and rootfs.squash.sqst with your files

Done

Szybet

on p4 you put your update.isa in update folder ( it already exists )

Done

did you write the kernel?

Yup

Szybet

dd if=zImage-root of=/dev/sdcard bs=512 seek=81920

using this

you put the correct dev device right?

Yes

now

8:33 PM

write sync in your terminal

8:33 PM

a couple of times

inside distrobox?

no

okay

and then umount the device

8:34 PM

with umount command

Under root?

yes

Szybet

write sync in your terminal

How many times?

8:34 PM

There's no output

3

8:35 PM

good

8:35 PM

umount it

Okay

8:35 PM

Done

inject the sd card to the nia

8:36 PM

and launch it

8:36 PM

be carefull with the motherboard

okayy

8:37 PM

Inkbox crash

8:37 PM

Error code: 5

http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/misc/gui_rootfs.isa

8:39 PM

did you replace this file?

I've used the correct rootfs.squashfs

8:39 PM

And the .dgst too

okay

But i've done nothing with overlaymount-rootfs.squashfs

@tux-linux what does overlaymount mean

8:40 PM

i dont know

8:40 PM

we need to wait for him

Okayy

8:40 PM

Thanks!!

you are welcome

Szybet

@tux-linux what does overlaymount mean

small rootfs containing fuse-overlayfs

1. why 2. how to recreate it

8:42 PM

actually

8:43 PM

can we sign just the one on the sd card once again?

you never wondered why your rootfs can be writeable even if the squashfs is read-only?

oh thats this

8:43 PM

makes sense

2. you don't need to create it, it's always the same and (probably) will never change

8:43 PM

at least hasn't changed since 1.5

tux-linux

you never wondered why your rootfs can be writeable even if the squashfs is read-only?

so can we just sign it once more?

yes

ok cool

8:44 PM

@ManuXD32 on partition 2 and 3 remove overlaymount-rootfs.squashfs.dgst and sign it with your key

Okay

8:45 PM

Should i replace rootfs.squashfs on partition 2 with my own?

no

8:45 PM

but hmm

okay

sign it too

8:46 PM

with your key

My bad, i missread

8:50 PM

There's no rootfs.squashfs on p2

8:50 PM

Okay, just resigned the overlays

yea

Sync, umount and try it

8:50 PM

Right?

yes

niceee

8:52 PM

It has entered on a usb debug state

what

hahahaha

what

let me scan the qr

8:53 PM

Oh, there's no text on the page

show me

8:53 PM

the screen

8:53 PM

take a picture

why are there those lines...

8:54 PM

@tux-linux explanation

8:54 PM

i know its a fallback mode

8:54 PM

but why

Don't know, they appeared when i took the other sd card

8:54 PM

Gonna reboot it and see if they dissappear

really?

8:55 PM

wow

They are from a manga i was reading

8:55 PM

I think it just didn't updated the screen there

@NiLuJe can this be because of another waveform information in the sd card?

ManuXD32

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this^

Well

8:57 PM

They does not dissappear

Szybet

@tux-linux explanation

the screen is broken

nooo

8:57 PM

im asking why usb debug is there

tux-linux

the screen is broken

It was working a few hours ago

8:58 PM

Is there a way to fix it?

no

wait

8:58 PM

dont panick

8:58 PM

stop

Hahaha okay

insert your old sd card with the original OS

8:58 PM

and try that

it will not work

Szybet

im asking why usb debug is there

@tux-linux

I've already tried that

8:58 PM

They stay the same

did you disconnected the battery while the nia was opened?

nope

and here is your problem

8:59 PM

i said you need to be carefull...

Szybet

@tux-linux

Usually it happens when an error code is shown because of bad signature so you can fix it

Szybet

i said you need to be carefull...

probably pressed too much on the back of the ereader, then it cracked the screen

8:59 PM

you can buy another one

Szybet

and here is your problem

tux-linux

probably pressed too much on the back of the ereader, then it cracked the screen

he could even short something on the motherboard

9:00 PM

well does touch work on the original OS?

yes

9:00 PM

Even on top of those lines

well

9:01 PM

you learned something new from this situation

ManuXD32

Click to see attachment 🖼️

the lines are only horizontal?

also the ereader is still usable

tux-linux

the lines are only horizontal?

yes

try disconnecting and reconnecting the display cable

9:01 PM

but be careful

STOP

Okay

9:02 PM

Stop

disconnect the battery first

Yup

carefully

I've already done it

and then press the power button for 5 s

Szybet

disconnect the battery first

no need to

tux-linux

no need to

.............. yea

I disconnected the display plenty of times on my ereaders without disconnecting the battery you just need to power off the device before

i just like safety okay?

Any tip for disconnecting the display?

like if you have a bit of static in you you can kill it eassly...

ManuXD32

Any tip for disconnecting the display?

wait

okay

it's not like you disconnect the battery every time you replace the sd card?

tux-linux

it's not like you disconnect the battery every time you replace the sd card?

i do and you won't stop me ;p

9:04 PM

well i did

i must have done it 500 times never broke one like that

now i have an external sd card

and in what way is it more safe?

tux-linux

i must have done it 500 times never broke one like that

Might it be because it was sleeping?

maybe it's always a good idea to hotswap components when your ereader is turned on...............................

force power off is sufficient

here is the picture

tux-linux

maybe it's always a good idea to hotswap components when your ereader is turned on...............................

uh

@tux-linux can you describe the process in english?

Szybet

here is the picture

okay, thanks

with my english i can mess things up

Szybet

@tux-linux can you describe the process in english?

By any case are you spanish?

tux-linux

and in what way is it more safe?

what exactly are you asking about

Szybet

@tux-linux can you describe the process in english?

lift the black tip near the white thing in the picture

ManuXD32

By any case are you spanish?

no, polish

then pull the connector out

tux-linux

lift the black tip near the white thing in the picture

Okay

Szybet

no, polish

Cool

and reseat it, then lock the black tip in place

Done

tux-linux

and reseat it, then lock the black tip in place

So i have to plug in the battery again?

after that

Don't really know how to reset it

re-s e a t it

oh

9:08 PM

ups

= just put it into place again

Okay, done

9:09 PM

The lines doesn't dissappear

well did you turned it on?

yep

then there is probably nothing to do

well as i said 1. you learned something 2. the reader is still usable

yup

9:11 PM

Something's something i guess

for sanki you can even cut the upper part off and have a smaller screen

9:11 PM

but you would need to do this yourself

or you can use the emulator

9:12 PM

but I suspect it's not the usecase you want

still usable in my opinion

Well, i can still read over the lines

9:13 PM

So it's not that bad

@tux-linux does something on p4 need to be signed?

9:13 PM

apart of update

9:14 PM

@ManuXD32 do you want to continue?

yup

9:14 PM

I do

9:14 PM

Hahahahah

good

Szybet

@tux-linux does something on p4 need to be signed?

gui_rootfs.isa (edited)

tux-linux

gui_rootfs.isa (edited)

thats propably that

9:14 PM

get the sd card

tux-linux

gui_rootfs.isa (edited)

Oh okay

and sign this file above

Going to

and sync umount

9:15 PM

and try again

if it boots into usb debug then you can access it with telnet

9:15 PM

from usbnet

he needs to get openssl anyway

9:15 PM

so take the sd card off

it is already there

dont complicate things

it's not complicated

9:16 PM

you want safety

9:16 PM

you're contradicting yourself

well actually

9:16 PM

yea true

9:16 PM

but the ereader is already damaged

9:16 PM

he learned about safety

once the display becomes cracked, it is very fragile

9:17 PM

everything can make it worse

:/

Okay, usb debug has appeared again

9:24 PM

Do i use telnet?

yes

okay

interface ip 192.168.2.2

9:25 PM

so you need to configure your computer to be 192.168.2.1

i have no idea then what went wrong

tux-linux

so you need to configure your computer to be 192.168.2.1

Uhhhm don't know how to do that

ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.1

9:27 PM

and turn off NetworkManager (edited)

Connection refused

ifconfig -a?

are you using ethernet? or wifi?

Wifi

then you need to use enp4s0f3u2

But i've disconected it

9:38 PM

Okay done

9:38 PM

Now what?

9:38 PM

It says inkbox login

root, then enter

It doesn't work

9:44 PM

Can't write on the line

tux-linux

and turn off NetworkManager (edited)

.

sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager

It says that networkmanager.service was not loades

NetworkManager

sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager

9:45 PM

sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager

9:45 PM

sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager

Sorry, i'm dumb

you learn*

Thanks hahaha

9:47 PM

Well, it worked, i'm inside

unsquashfs /opt/key.sqsh -d key

9:49 PM

openssl dgst -sha256 -verify key/public.pem [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa.dgst

No signature to verify: use the -signature option

9:51 PM

Do i use it?

9:51 PM

Or am i gonna mess everything again hahahaha

openssl dgst -sha256 -verify key/public.pem -signature [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa.dgst [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa

10:05 PM

Just noticed that i forgot the last part of the command

yyyyyyyy

10:05 PM

yea...

But still getting the same error

show

10:07 PM

[p4] is your mounted fourth partition

10:08 PM

you need to rerplace that

But the kobo is not mounted

mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt

No such file or directory

10:16 PM

Forget it

ls /dev?

Done

output?

tux-linux

openssl dgst -sha256 -verify key/public.pem [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa.dgst

I mean this

10:17 PM

The mounting has worked out

10:17 PM

The output is

10:17 PM

Verified ok

then try reboot

tux-linux

openssl dgst -sha256 -verify key/public.pem -signature [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa.dgst [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa

This*

10:18 PM

Okay

10:18 PM

No output

10:19 PM

And it doesn't kick me out of the telnet

what's the screen looking like

did you sign overlaymount-rootfs.squashfs in partition 2 too?

Yes

get into telnet again and run /etc/init.d/rcS, then post the full output

10:24 PM

After that it has rebooted

10:24 PM

With error 4

10:24 PM

echo rooted | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872

Done

sync && reboot

Usb debug again

tux-linux

get into telnet again and run /etc/init.d/rcS, then post the full output

do this again then (edited)

And still error 4

10:32 PM

I've rebooted it manually

10:33 PM

I think i'm gonna call it a day

10:34 PM

Will try again tomorrow

ManuXD32

I've rebooted it manually

output?

tux-linux

output?

No output

10:34 PM

I mean

10:34 PM

I pressed the button

/etc/init.d/rcS and post the output

It's not on usb debug anymore

10:35 PM

And i cam't run the command

then what is it on?

On error 4

10:36 PM

reboot it and it will go into usb debug

Okay

10:38 PM

That's it

you need to sign the recoveryfs

And it has booted again as error 4

10:39 PM

Oh okay

10:44 PM

Done

10:44 PM

Usb debug again

tux-linux

/etc/init.d/rcS and post the output

I'm running this again

yes, ok

10:45 PM

This is the output

10:46 PM

And the kobo is still on usb debug

do the same thing but with sh -x /etc/init.d/rcS

10:47 PM

and post output

10:48 PM

10:49 PM

tux-linux

echo rooted | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872

did you do this for real

Now?

10:50 PM

Nop

10:50 PM

When you told me yes

then what is the output of dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 skip=79872 count=1?

echo rooted | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=79872
dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 skip=79872 count=1

run this

Okay

10:56 PM

dd: standard output: illegal seek

10:56 PM

Right after the first command

10:57 PM

Forget that message

10:57 PM

I wrote if instead of of

10:58 PM

sync and reboot

Done

11:01 PM

It was boot8ng

11:01 PM

But

11:01 PM

Error 2

11:01 PM

11:02 PM

I signed the gui

11:02 PM

run sh -x thing

Okay

11:03 PM

11:04 PM

reboot and do the same thing, but before, ensure that cat [p1]/flags/BOOT_USB_DEBUG is false (edited)

It is

then do the same sh -x thing

Okay

11:07 PM

Booting again

11:07 PM

But suddenly

11:08 PM

output?

verify the signature of gui_rootfs.isa, it isn't valid

tux-linux

openssl dgst -sha256 -verify key/public.pem -signature [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa.dgst [p4]/gui_rootfs.isa

With this?

yes

Wich partition is gui in?

p4?

Okay

11:12 PM

Can't find it

why are you doing that

11:13 PM

you deleted it then

11:13 PM

put it back in

11:13 PM

and sign it again

Okay

11:14 PM

So i have to reflash the kernel

11:14 PM

Right?

no

Then i don't know where to find those files

11:17 PM

I uploaded it you need to sign it

Okay

11:17 PM

Thanks

1

Done

11:27 PM

It was booting but

11:27 PM

Error code 6

11:27 PM

I've done the sh -x thing

Did you put update.isa in p4?

I did, but for some reason i got removed

11:36 PM

I've put it again

11:36 PM

And resigned it

11:36 PM

Gonna try

11:39 PM

It booted

11:40 PM

But

11:40 PM

It's stuck

11:40 PM

11:41 PM

The output of sh -x ...

How much time did you wait?

A couple of minutes

11:42 PM

But it is still stuck

What's the size of update.isa

38,6 MB

I would need serial port output

17.45 KB

11:46 PM

I'm assuming it is in the output of sh -x ...

You don't have an onboard filesystem

11:47 PM

dd if=/dev/zero of=[p4]/onboard bs=1M count=512 (edited)

11:47 PM

Nooooooo

11:48 PM

Wait

11:48 PM

Ok you can run it now, edited

11:49 PM

Then sync and reboot

Okay

Szybet

@NiLuJe can this be because of another waveform information in the sd card?

Looks like a badly seated flex cable

we did make him reseat it

12:38 AM

but no luck

A few pins or whatever those are called torn then?

12:39 AM

The few vertical ones are slightly more worrisome (edited)

Maybe

Unless it's a very very very neat substrate crack

yeah

12:40 AM

it is looking a bit strange

Which I guess could happen if the glass had a perfect fault-line

12:41 AM

But it's usually more jagged when it actually cracks

So is there still a chance that it can be fixed??

tux-linux

Then sync and reboot

Also, no luck with this

12:49 AM

Still stuck

what is sh -x output?

I think that something in the process must have deleted some files

12:50 AM

Like the gui or update ones

12:50 AM

So maybe that's the problem

12:50 AM

I think i'll try again tomorrow from scratch

tux-linux

what is sh -x output?

?

inkbox/LICENSE at master · Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

20.67 KB

12:51 AM

That

what does it show on the screen?

hm ok

ManuXD32

I think i'll try again tomorrow from scratch

then do that

12:54 AM

good night

Good night!!

1

12:56 AM

Thanks for your help

1

tux-linux

we did make him reseat it

there are actually more flex cables going to thescreem on the nia

12:59 AM

but i think this is the correct one

I've noticed that that one controls the touch

1:00 AM

And those, the little one controls the backlight and the big one controls the display itself

the big one is the screen

id this is the eink

1:07 AM

then you pulled the wrong flex cable out

1:07 AM

my bad

ProTip: The one with a giant codebar and a VCOM value on it is always the screen ;). (edited)

1:13 AM

might be a datamatrix on some boards, but the principle usually stands

NiLuJe

ProTip: The one with a giant codebar and a VCOM value on it is always the screen ;). (edited)

Hahahah i'd take it into account

Szybet

then you pulled the wrong flex cable out

The big one didn't work either so it doesn't matter hahaha

did you gived up?

Nope

2:42 PM

But i'm back at uni so i've got less time

2:42 PM

Tumorrow i've got some free time so i'll repeat the process to see if i failed at something

2:42 PM

okay, understandable

^0 time i see

11:45 PM

anyway inkbox is mit livensed right? so we allow corporations to steal our code and use it in a closed source project?

WHAT

11:46 PM

That's a thing?

if i remember correctly and i remember an other thing correctly, yes

No?

12:10 AM

What's making you say that

12:11 AM

✨ there ✨ https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/blob/master/LICENSE

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos. Contribute to Kobo-InkBox/inkbox development by creating an account on GitHub.

then i dont rememver things correctly

Running into the same error I got when trying to compile a different error, for which I was unable to find a definitive answer as to what is causing it (nor a solution):

include/linux/compiler-gcc.h:91:1: fatal error: linux/compiler-gcc11.h: No such file or directory
   91 | #include gcc_header(__GNUC__)
      | ^~~~~

(edited)

what are you trying to do

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel, following the build instructions from here

4:22 PM

Though it may have been me mixing up compiling and building

your command?

sudo GITDIR=/home/USER/Ereader/Inkbox/kernel-master TOOLCHAINDIR=$GITDIR/toolchain/gcc-4.8 TARGET=arm-linux-gnueabihf THREADS=4 scripts/build_kernel.sh n613 std

Got the same error when using the other directories available in the toolchain folder

wrong toolchain propably

4:58 PM

use kobo

4:59 PM

the kobo one

arm-kobo-linux-gnueabihf ?

5:00 PM

Or the official one from the Kobo github?

from the inkbox kernel repo

Szybet

from the inkbox kernel repo

That one gave the same error :/

show me the comand that you used

7:15 PM

i will try myself

okay

7:17 PM

sudo GITDIR=/home/USER/Ereader/Inkbox/kernel-master TOOLCHAINDIR=$GITDIR/toolchain/arm-kobo-linux-gnueabihf TARGET=arm-linux-gnueabihf THREADS=4 scripts/build_kernel.sh n613 std

env GITDIR="${PWD}" TOOLCHAINDIR="${PWD}/toolchain/arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf/" THREADS=$(($(nproc)*2)) TARGET=arm-nickel-linux-gnueabihf scripts/build_kernel.sh n613 root

7:18 PM

well try this

Sweet, that worked

(edited)

good

9:39 PM

you need to replace the keys

9:40 PM

im sure its written in the channels i writed you yesterday

That'd be the nrpoc you've put in the THREAD part of the command then?

outputs number of your threads in cpu

Yeah, but is that what you meant with the keys I had to replace?

Or does it have to do with the root and/or env part you changed?

your problem was toolchain and target variabler

and?...

Currently working on the bootloader

5:14 PM

I've created a .bin file, currently working out how to get the partitions correct (edited)

well just talk to me

7:47 PM

because as i said, you dont need partitions if you already have an inkbox install

7:47 PM

did you replaced the keys in the kernel?

7:48 PM

also bootloader also isin't needed, but cool that you are figuring this out

Szybet

did you replaced the keys in the kernel?

Ah haven't gotten to that part yet. If I find time today (have some studying to do, so not sure) I'll get started on that.

1

10:19 AM

I did miss the part about not needing the partitions, but eh, it's honestly quite interesting and useful to learn all this :)

Didn't get the screen to flash with the bootloader I compiled, so leaving that for the moment. Currently on the rootfs, I created the keys using the commands from the Nia manual, however when trying to sign it I get an error saying that rootfs.squashfs does not exist (it isn't in the file tree either).

12:14 PM

sudo openssl dgst -sha256 -sign private.pem -out rootfs.squashfs.dgst rootfs.s
quashfs

error throws after this command

you need first to create the rootfs

1:28 PM

maybe first focus on the kernel

1:28 PM

and bootloader

1:28 PM

maybe try to get a serial connection with u-boot?

1

(just so you're aware, I was sick all weekend so wasn't really able to work on it. Still feeling a bit out of it too at the moment

)

Take care

"Zdrowiej"

tux-linux

Take care

wow, you are alive

Slalamander

(just so you're aware, I was sick all weekend so wasn't really able to work on it. Still feeling a bit out of it too at the moment

)

good that you are reporting why are you offline, so we dont lose hope

Szybet

wow, you are alive

yes................

yes with a lot of dotes

barely I've got Christmas masses to practice for And a truckload of exams

i know

9:09 PM

you said something about piano playing in late december

More like organ playing

so i dont even try to bother you, I just leave messages for the future

tux-linux

More like organ playing

oh yea, that

beautiful ones

yes

9:12 PM

https://www.musiqueorguequebec.ca/orgues/quebec/blainvillest.html English version at the bottom

Église Sainte-Thérèse-d'Avila, Blainville, QC

Description de l'orgue de l'église Sainte-Thérèse-d'Avila de Blainville, (Québec) / Description of the in St. Therese d'Avila church in Blainville, Québec

i see pretty old ones

Yes but a lot of Europe churches have organs dating from <1750

yep

9:27 PM

in mine place too i think

1

tux-linux

barely I've got Christmas masses to practice for And a truckload of exams

I can relate but probably not as much as you... otherwise I'd be a lot more active here

damn it's gonna take a lot of motivation to impress the ladies at campfire with organ skills

Aramir

damn it's gonna take a lot of motivation to impress the ladies at campfire with organ skills

~~you get 3 those keyboards electric small pianos something and it will do the thing~~

+pedalboard

5:06 AM

and you can have up to 7 keyboards (edited)

5:06 AM

Though it's a bit overkill, granted

Nicolas you should do martial arts

6:04 AM

It's fun

tux-linux

and you can have up to 7 keyboards (edited)

are ypu a machamp?

7:29 AM

Szybet

are ypu a machamp?

Well, I can play three keyboards at most at the same time

1:43 PM

Different keyboards often butcontain different registrations

1:43 PM

(sounds)

1:44 PM

https://youtu.be/YiRr-TLm12Y There, recital from last Saturday

Récital d'orgue (17 décembre 2022)

very cool music

1

2:29 PM

and

2:29 PM

1.5h? impressive

tux-linux

Well, I can play three keyboards at most at the same time

you didnt disagree then

Szybet

are ypu a machamp?

you play pokemon?

dill

you play pokemon?

no

3:39 PM

im just nostalgic to my childhood

dill

you play pokemon?

also pokemon is an anime, not a game

(edited)

Szybet

also pokemon is an anime, not a game

(edited)

no

3:40 PM

not if you have a nintendo switch

Szybet

im just nostalgic to my childhood

lol me too

dill

not if you have a nintendo switch

i play the games

dill

lol me too

you... are still a ~~child~~ young teenager

Szybet

you... are still a ~~child~~ young teenager

I've had pokemon cards for 9 years though

Talking about pokemons ?

8:17 PM

8:18 PM

And I vividly remember back then my parents forbidding me to watch pokemon because it was too dumb.

8:18 PM

Aaaaand I can't be mad at them for that.

Aramir

And I vividly remember back then my parents forbidding me to watch pokemon because it was too dumb.

what cartoons / anime are smart then?

I mean there's a bunch ...

8:27 PM

I wouldn't say pokemon is necessarily horrible, but it's definetly over-hyped and its success a result of a crushing marketing campaign.

8:27 PM

I didn't miss growing without it even when it was at its peak of popularity.

8:29 PM

But just in case, trying to keep it down to "stuff that a kid might like and I can think off the top of my head cause I watched them back then" :

toy story
chicken run
pretty much every ghibli, comix wave, Satoshi Kon
The Black Cauldron
Wolfwalkers
shrek

8:30 PM

heck even throw some disney in there too. Most of them are inoffensive.

those are smart?

those are not taking kids for dumb dumb

8:31 PM

Not necessarily smart requiring some literature degree / ton of culture that you don't have as a kid.

i dont see much diffrence between pokemon and shrek in the sense of stupid / smart

Whereas Pokemon as I remember was cheap looking (even for back then), really bad dialogue lots of yelling / high pitched voices for no reasons (was watching true-french dubbed version of course)... And the message conveyed was "yeaaaaah power of friendship and trusting strangers is fun, go on an adventure kids and don't forget to make animals fight each others"

Aramir

Whereas Pokemon as I remember was cheap looking (even for back then), really bad dialogue lots of yelling / high pitched voices for no reasons (was watching true-french dubbed version of course)... And the message conveyed was "yeaaaaah power of friendship and trusting strangers is fun, go on an adventure kids and don't forget to make animals fight each others"

... shrek has literally a race war

Shrek ... I guess you had to be there at that time. It was :

one of the first computer generated movies that wasn't looking like absolute trash
it was written for both kids and adults. Kids wouldn't miss a reference and feel dumb about not getting but parents would definitely catch them
it was obviously a parody / retelling of the old same princess tale but modernised
and yes it tackled some subject such as race war... Yet it wasn't so much in your face as to bore the kid, nor trying to take itself too seriously and become a documentary. It walked the line pretty well. Would I consider it a masterpiece, must watch, kiss chef, such a chef d'oeuvre. Meh probably not but it's definetly worth a watch and wasn't taking kids for big big dummies but instead future adults with functioning brain.

8:41 PM

ps : I haven't watched any of the pokemon OAV. My knowledge of pokemon consists of ... parts of the first two seasons. The card game (that was dope), and video games that I played on friend's gameboy.

8:42 PM

Sorry Nicolas for erasing your game save by the way... But how was I supposed to know that "new game" doesn't mean "sure here you can try to the game from the start until you save" but actually meant "oh surely you meant 'I want to erase all of my saves' AND start a new game".

8:43 PM

I didn't know, I didn't mean it

Aramir

Sorry Nicolas for erasing your game save by the way... But how was I supposed to know that "new game" doesn't mean "sure here you can try to the game from the start until you save" but actually meant "oh surely you meant 'I want to erase all of my saves' AND start a new game".

wait you two know each other in real life?

No, it was another Nicolas XD

Oh

8:47 PM

But yeah would I forbid my kid to watch pokemon or something similar ? Meh I don't know, probably not... There's much much worse out there.

8:51 PM

Teletubbies, pat patrol, Peppa Pig, those hell-ish youtube videos with grown ups playing around in spiderman cosplays

8:56 PM

But now I want to know what you consider as smart anime show/movie that you watched as a kid/child. (Cause I'm curious and I might discover some) (edited)

8:57 PM

Cause there's a bunch out there, even more nowadays than back then.

8:57 PM

It wasn't better in the old days as they say.

9:00 PM

Oh and btw it's ok to like bad stuff... Heck I like equilibrium.

Aramir

But now I want to know what you consider as smart anime show/movie that you watched as a kid/child. (Cause I'm curious and I might discover some) (edited)

only one, USSR one, that a smart boy helped his parrents at a household in a smart way, like loading bricks to the roof using an electric motor, and before it he explained it in a basic way on his greenboard

got me curious

9:04 PM

only USSR kid shows I know are the weiiiiird ones you see on youtube

9:05 PM

the ones that could send any one into depression just by looking at it for more than 10 secs, or the ones that look like copy of copy of copy, or the propaganda stuff (edited)

well this one was original

9:05 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

title ?

no idea

9:05 PM

i was 3 years old

9:05 PM

maybe 4

damn

9:06 PM

Or or or there was actually some great ones that were made by a literally a couple over years and years of work

9:07 PM

Saw a documentary about them, they were crazy (in the good sense), they had made their own multi layer machinery so they can stack up celluloids (edit : multiplane camera). (edited)

9:07 PM

brb gonna look it up

9:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hip3pz0Xs ( Yuri Norstein and Francheska Yarbusova ) (edited)

Atrocity Guide

The Animators Who've Spent 40 Years on a Single Film

9:09 PM

that's definitely not kid stuff (at least it doesn't seem to be) but very intriguing. (edited)

I'm trying to open an epub file but when I hit open it freezes up and I have to reset the device. I'm using a kobo glo btw.

for how long did you waited

4:45 PM

how big is the epub file

overnight

4:46 PM

60mb

oof

4:46 PM

the current reader doesn't work well with big files (edited)

4:46 PM

i'm working on a better one

4:47 PM

but you can send the epub, i will test it on my device, it should work anyway, not just freeze forever

I'll try a smaller one

also, detecting corrupted epubs was added only recently so not in 1.9

I'm also curious, would just alpine Linux work on the kobo or would I need all the drivers?

bruh

5:05 PM

there is literally alpine under the hood in inkbox

5:05 PM

3.10 version sadly

I know inkbox is alpine based but if I just flashed alpine to the ad card would it boot?

you can use apk

5:05 PM

no, its much more complicated

5:05 PM

;p

I see

5:09 PM

what else is on top of it?

5:09 PM

besides the custom software

on top of inkbox?

5:10 PM

or alpine

on top of the alpine base to make it work on the kobo

you mean below alpine 1. uboot 2. kernel provided by the manufacturer, custon modified to make it work 3. initrd with busybox 4. filesystem parkour, propably nit needed byt im not sure

5:15 PM

why do you ask?

I'm just curious

cool

Kaktoose

60mb

It's probably not a good idea

another question, where is it getting the time from? I'm not connected to wifi

the charger IC has an integrated clock

It syncs to NTP when connected too

Szybet

you mean below alpine 1. uboot 2. kernel provided by the manufacturer, custon modified to make it work 3. initrd with busybox 4. filesystem parkour, propably nit needed byt im not sure

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox-os-init/blob/main/init.c initialisation program https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel/blob/master/initrd/common/startx X11 start script https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/rootfs/blob/master/etc/init.d/gui_apps user applications setup script (example init script) @Kaktoose

3:12 AM

It's actually an entirely custom base + an Alpine chroot on top (edited)

3:12 AM

cf. https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel/blob/master/initrd/common/overlay-mount

3:12 AM

Main Alpine rootfs is in a mountable squashfs to save space (edited)

3:13 AM

You can achieve read-write with fuse-overlayfs or unionfs, depending on the device

3:14 AM

https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=General_information

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/commit/68fbae33f557db9671dd9d6f846b362809c5949e Check ✅

Remove 'Enable UI scaling' check box · Kobo-InkBox/inkbox@68fbae3

so ui scalling is removed?

No

4:12 PM

It's always enabled

umm?

4:17 AM

Fast eInk on Boox Note Air 2 Plus

4:18 AM

sadly screen is only 227 ppi

4:20 AM

There is one place where Discord's light mode is actually useful

cool

Hello im absolutely newbie on discord. Where i can find inkbox image 2.0 for kobo mini?

2.0 isint released yet, unnoficial with missing features, but its almost there

3:51 PM

you need to compile it yourself

hi everyone! new to this channel, just a quick summary of my experience so far:

Hi, please also provide the version, maybe your problems are fixed

First of all inkbox works on the tolino shine! Because that is basically a kobo glo rebranded. Everything works, except the backlight button not doing anything. I think that's really huge, because tolino is really, really popular here in Germany. I think the tolino shine 2 hd (= kobo glo hd) and toline page 2 (= kobo nia) might work out of the box as well, but I do not have the hardware to try it out. Using the latest version 1.9 now. One big disadvantage is that I do not seem to have wifi. Is wifi working on the kobo glo? That's the only real downside compared to the stock firmware currently. Support for different languages would be nice, but english is fine for me, too. I also figured out how to make the usb storage larger, should I add that info to the wiki somewhere? That's all, inkbox has been awesome so far!

2

Cool to know about tolino! If you want, you can add support for the button if you know a bit about linux and programming Wifi was figured out, but i dont know if for 1.9. Please see release notes for this, if not, you need to update to latest dev version to enable wifi. For 2.0 it will be there We also know about the hack for making it larger, we plan to automate the process in the future. You can add it to the wiki for sure, any contributions are welcome

11:28 AM

@tux-linux maybe adding that tolinos work too propably is a good idea?

tolino shine confirmed working, page 2 and shine 2 hd just my suspicion that they work, probably someone should try it first! Maybe me if I get one for cheap. I got ok linux knowledge I'd say and minimal programming skills. Could you point me in the right direction to getting the backlight button to do something?

It depends of what do you want it to do

11:34 AM

Well if i could get any ereader for cheap i would buy it and port it

well on the stock firmware this button toggles the backlight on and off, and the brightness of the backlight is set in the gui. Would be nice to have that functionality, or even better: Have it toggle through backlight off and different brightness settings (10%, 20%, ...) when pressing the button.

Szybet

Well if i could get any ereader for cheap i would buy it and port it

good attitude

I just started using inkbox because I got the tolino shine for <10€.

This is easly done with inkbox power daemon, you can add it, basic cpp required

11:40 AM

There are already functions, watcher, like one additional int and an if

shwanzy

good attitude

I just started using inkbox because I got the tolino shine for <10€.

Woah, i have been ssarching for a damaged - but repeirable one and i couldnt find anything at that price

Szybet

This is easly done with inkbox power daemon, you can add it, basic cpp required

will see if I can figure it out!

Szybet

Woah, i have been ssarching for a damaged - but repeirable one and i couldnt find anything at that price

tbf I got one with a broken screen for free, and got one with broken everything but screen for <10€. But here in germany you get them in working condition for around 10€ all the time. Spoiler: You will most likely break the front housing when opening it, if it's not already broken. At least that happened to me on both devices, the material is just very weak. You might have to 3d print a replacement and that might or might not be better, we will see in a few days!

For kobo its not the case with... The case

12:03 PM

Also i created a 3d printed case for the nia anyways

shwanzy

tbf I got one with a broken screen for free, and got one with broken everything but screen for <10€. But here in germany you get them in working condition for around 10€ all the time. Spoiler: You will most likely break the front housing when opening it, if it's not already broken. At least that happened to me on both devices, the material is just very weak. You might have to 3d print a replacement and that might or might not be better, we will see in a few days!

On germany ebay?

"ebay kleinanzeigen" is cheaper!

Is this a local section of ebay?

yes its like "ebay small ads" or something

12:28 PM

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/tolino-shine-ebook-reader/2376600129-285-1413

Tolino Shine eBook Reader

Tolino Shine 1 Der Shine hat eine Macke im Rahmen ohne Funktionseinschränkungen. Beleuchtung...,Tolino Shine eBook Reader in Nordrhein-Westfalen - Sundern (Sauerland)

12:28 PM

feg

Szybet

@tux-linux maybe adding that tolinos work too propably is a good idea?

We need to test it first...

This one works for sure

shwanzy

yes its like "ebay small ads" or something

Will the sellers sent it to poland?

i don't know, almost everyone is a private seller, you can ask them! All I can tell you is prices: regular package to poland without insurance is 6€ with DHL, might even get it cheaper if you send it as "big letter" or something. Parcel with insurance is around 10€ with DPD or Hermes.

1:20 PM

If you want I can keep an eye out for a cheap tolino shine and send it to you.

Im looking out for any regularly, even for damaged ones, i can repair them propably if its not the screen

1:59 PM

But if you would found one, send it for sure, thanks

Big letter... This needs to be bubble wrapped for the eink display to survive

nah i was wrong big letter international is for documents only it seems, 6€ with dhl the cheapest option i can find.

Its still a good price

2:34 PM

What does VB as price stand for

"verhandlungsbasis", meaning price can be negotiated.

Cool, but i wobt try because im not interested in those books on it

3:01 PM

The seller advertised it with books

8:23 PM

fixed case up as good as possible, looks good!

Well, nice

9:00 PM

What is your device model

9:00 PM

Exactly

"tolino shine", no additional model number that i know of

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look up on the case on the bottom

9:17 PM

next to the charging port

9:25 PM

9:26 PM

thats from the second housing i got... but there really is nothing on either

9:26 PM

just tolino shine

is it 0560 for every tolino or not

9:26 PM

just a serial number

shwanzy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

SUCH A COOL THING THIS SLIDER

not sure I think it's just the ce notified body number

9:31 PM

not a model number

Szybet

SUCH A COOL THING THIS SLIDER

its a cute little thing, only downside really is the cheap plastic! Internals seem to be fine, considering how old it is and still working fine.

well then no code number then

Not really. There is a serial number that seems to be a different one for every device. And you can just look it up in the stock os, not printed on the hardware itself. And last but not least: There are two different versions of the shine. There is almost no difference between them. The second version has a butterfly on the case, most of the times the first version does not. Only way to know for sure is looking at serial number: if it's below 20311241 it's the older revision. Hardware wise the only difference seems to be the second version being able to refresh screen every 6 pages instead of every 8 pages. That's it.

9:45 PM

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Tolino_Shine?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Tolino Shine

Der Tolino Shine (Eigenschreibweise: tolino shine) war ein E-Book-Reader, der in Deutschland, Österreich, Südtirol und der Schweiz seit März 2013 in Zusammenarbeit der Deutschen Telekom mit den Buchhändlern Thalia, Weltbild, Hugendubel, dem Buchgroßhändler Libri sowie der Osianderschen und der Mayerschen Buchhandlung neben weiteren Geräten der M...

9:45 PM

(general info)

9:45 PM

https://www-selfpublisherbibel-de.translate.goog/tolino-shine-altes-und-neues-modell-des-ereaders-im-vergleich/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Tolino shine: Altes und neues Modell des eReaders im Vergleich

9:45 PM

(info on the two different versions)

well then we shouldnt care about those versions

9:46 PM

the butterfly one uses a better sreen, thats all

yeah just writing it down for the record ^^ I guess as long as there are no issues with the screen for anyone, no reason to differentiate.

9:47 PM

btw how cool is micro sd card as internal storage? why isn't it always like this with phones etc? Really awesome.

shwanzy

btw how cool is micro sd card as internal storage? why isn't it always like this with phones etc? Really awesome.

size i think, but yea its awesome

shwanzy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is there a second storage inside? (edited)

there is two micro sd slots, one internal, one accessible from the outside

ok cool

9:50 PM

inkbox doesnt have support for the external one

guessed so

well you can add it always

just took out the original card and use an 16gb card instead, honestly more space than I could ever fill with books

9:51 PM

I think you are overestimating what I can do

9:52 PM

I'm already totally lost with the button thing... and I just realized this has a home button, too!

shwanzy

I think you are overestimating what I can do

you can always learn

That I can do for sure!

you only need will

9:53 PM

i learned c++ / qt only beause of this project

hey gets me motivated to really get into it! all I can do is a hello world.

its not that hard too

so how did you do it? just wanted to change something in inkbox and then started with a c++ beginner tutorial or something?

i had some background in programming in general - tables, loops, references etc. I just started writing an app for inkbox i just wanted and with fails and many errors i got there https://github.com/Szybet/sanki tux-linux helped a bit

GitHub - Szybet/sanki: small anki rewritten for e-readers, with foc...

small anki rewritten for e-readers, with focus on inkbox support - GitHub - Szybet/sanki: small anki rewritten for e-readers, with focus on inkbox support

9:58 PM

I learn by making mistakes - it's best if you find your own way of learning

9:58 PM

some people prefer videos, books, tutorials

dont want to brag but already pretty good at making mistakes

if you learn from those mistakes, thats good

10:01 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeeah but I actually have to sit my ass down one day and just learn c++. I "learned" it multiple times in school and university and it always got to the point I could write a hello world but not any further. And looking at any actual real life source code I still don't understand anything.

first write your own program then try to understand someone others

yes probably best, thanks for the tips!

It would be cool if joined the project - here are only me and @tux-linux really

it would be an honor! not sure if I can actually be helpful though.

10:16 PM

will try out anything you guys throw at me for sure! And probably get a tolino page 2 to test that one too. We'll see if I'll be able to contribute anything codewise soon, I doubt it tbh...

Honestly anything is helpful

dill

Honestly anything is helpful

yea

You don't need advanced programming to port inkbox

translations, wikis, testing, design help - anything

Yup

shwanzy

it would be an honor! not sure if I can actually be helpful though.

if you really want you can learn anything - and we here can help with that

I'll stick around and see what I can do! What's translations? Is there multi language support planned?

of course there is

Szybet

translations, wikis, testing, design help - anything

finding bugs, helping new users

10:20 PM

anything

10:21 PM

no one said that to you already but 90% people here are going away very often, thats why tux-linux is such a pesymist and im on the edge

10:21 PM

so as always, we hope you will stick arround here

well it's already sold I'll stick around!

Szybet

no one said that to you already but 90% people here are going away very often, thats why tux-linux is such a pesymist and im on the edge

my guess: you are all just way smarter than you think and think anyone can just help with the code!

10:25 PM

this project rocks, literally the only open source os for ereaders. And I can install it on some old ass device that has not seen an official os update since five years.

shwanzy

my guess: you are all just way smarter than you think and think anyone can just help with the code!

in my opinion almost everyone could learn to code: But in this case im talking about people who wanted to port and just left, see #porting kobo clara thread

10:26 PM

for sure 10 people already, and its just one device

shwanzy

this project rocks, literally the only open source os for ereaders. And I can install it on some old ass device that has not seen an official os update since five years.

well dont be so in rush - installing inkbox on a random device could damage the device ( the kernel is configured for specific devices, and it sets specific voltages for chips, like wifi ) but cool that you got it running, tolinos are safe, but no other brand

yes i'm aware, just did it because I knew the hardware was identical to the kobo glo... plus internal storage is a microsd

nothing to lose here, just switch and go!

soldered eemmc storages are another problem

can I start working on german translation already? Can't find anything

it's not ready - we need to add support for it

10:52 PM

support for custom leanguages

Oh.. please.. not a mess like this before 2.1

10:56 PM

Maybe more try to understand the operating system and write docs ? You can ask for insight anytime

10:57 PM

https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki (edited)

Wiki

tux-linux

Oh.. please.. not a mess like this before 2.1

nah

it will be a mess

nah

10:58 PM

btw kobo clara hd = tolino shine 3

Then i want to get the 3 version, to port it

68€ new including shipping, 60€ used not including shipping... weird

Welp, 15€ max i would spend

So @shwanzy what you are doing / planning to do? Translations will need to wait sadly, but maybe the wiki could be translated

sounds like a plan! Am going to fresh it up a little and translate in to german.

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Szybet

i had some background in programming in general - tables, loops, references etc. I just started writing an app for inkbox i just wanted and with fails and many errors i got there https://github.com/Szybet/sanki tux-linux helped a bit

Hey ! That's my plan !

1:05 AM

heh

I'll probably won't have time to start working on it for another 3 months at best anyways XD. So go for it.

Aramir

I'll probably won't have time to start working on it for another 3 months at best anyways XD. So go for it.

you mean sanki or what

Adding Anki and/or using jisho's API to get some basic dictionary functionalities, flashcards and qcm from a reliable source was my next milestone (for Obenkyobo). (edited)

i have a question: i'm working on the wiki and think about adding a small part about making the usb storage (the onboard file) larger than 500mb. Do you think it should be recommended to make it as big as the partition allows, minus 2,5gb (that's roughly the size the partition minus the onboard file is on default 4gb card)?

Aramir

Adding Anki and/or using jisho's API to get some basic dictionary functionalities, flashcards and qcm from a reliable source was my next milestone (for Obenkyobo). (edited)

i think anki / your app should be separate anyway, so okay cool

For sure Obenkyobo would still specialise in japanese so it's good to have a more general anki app.

shwanzy

i have a question: i'm working on the wiki and think about adding a small part about making the usb storage (the onboard file) larger than 500mb. Do you think it should be recommended to make it as big as the partition allows, minus 2,5gb (that's roughly the size the partition minus the onboard file is on default 4gb card)?

i dont understand but: 1. After fliashing, increase the p4 to the max size in gparted let's say 2. Increase the size of the onboard file to as much as possible, i dont know about how much should be left of it @tux-linux should answer ( the only thing that increases size on p4 is update.isa right? but it's getting a redesign soo? )

Aramir

For sure Obenkyobo would still specialise in japanese so it's good to have a more general anki app.

yea, and mine is also pretty usable and good\******* so you would reinvent the wheel

https://pastebin.com/raw/RAaRHtzB this is the edit draft for the wiki main page. On the wiki main page you can go on edit source and c&p this raw, then you can see the preview.

1:32 AM

then you will also know what I meant with the question maybe I went over board with this part ^^

i will look at it tommorow

all good!

1:37 AM

i think a small issue with how info is presented to users is that it's all spread over website, wiki and github. maybe best to keep only code in github, all guides and infos and stuff in the wiki, and a nice web page for representation only. Then just link everything accordingly. But not todays anways, sleep well everyone!

shwanzy

i think a small issue with how info is presented to users is that it's all spread over website, wiki and github. maybe best to keep only code in github, all guides and infos and stuff in the wiki, and a nice web page for representation only. Then just link everything accordingly. But not todays anways, sleep well everyone!

the reason for me is that the wiki editor is crappy, i prefer markdown. But if you want, you can with pandoc convert those markdown notes into wikimedia and paste them & put there a link to the oryginal to github & under a special directory or smth.

11:21 AM

i also dont like wikimedia because there is no easy way to back it up for me. for git repo? i simply clone it

11:23 AM

also @shwanzy what is a reasonable shipping cost from germany to poland? maybe you know (edited)

maybe we can create a "wiki repo" or something then? Don't care about using wiki tech, just about things being sorted and not redundant. Like one place for code, one place for documentation, how tos etc, one place (website) for representation. Btw forget what I posted yesterday formatting was so shitty I'm already working on it

shwanzy

maybe we can create a "wiki repo" or something then? Don't care about using wiki tech, just about things being sorted and not redundant. Like one place for code, one place for documentation, how tos etc, one place (website) for representation. Btw forget what I posted yesterday formatting was so shitty I'm already working on it

well you could make a script that downloads all those guides from github to one place, for sure

11:28 AM

and just make a bot that updates it once a week or smth

when I stumbled upon inkbox it was hard to wrap my head around how to even begin with installing. Because there is important info spread over wiki, website and github. Took a while to find out all the details: Like that I have to remove the internal sd, that I have to update to 1.6 first and then to latest, how to increase usb storage and so on. It's all there somewhere, just some parts here some parts there, and you are never quite sure you got everything right as a noob.

yea, a definitive guide should be added

yeah ill see if I can improve the page as it is on wiki. just important to have the content for now, and we can format like we want later!

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Szybet

also @shwanzy what is a reasonable shipping cost from germany to poland? maybe you know (edited)

one sec

Szybet

also @shwanzy what is a reasonable shipping cost from germany to poland? maybe you know (edited)

regular parcel to poland without insurance is 6€ with DHL, parcel with insurance is around 10€ with DPD or Hermes.

thanks

11:34 AM

thats... costly

yeah and no "workarounds" that I can find. Really no cheaper options for sending ereaders. maybe you need to buy multiple together! ^^

https://pastebin.com/raw/3X2qNcie what do you all think? just go to https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit paste everything raw from pastebin and hit preview

1:30 PM

i think the section i added about expanding usb storage still sucks idk a better way.

Very cool

1:33 PM

but maybe make the update section more uniwersal, not about specific versions

shwanzy

i think the section i added about expanding usb storage still sucks idk a better way.

it's good

about about section: idk if I got it right. All devices got release images version 1.6 or higher, only a few still have 1.5.

1:44 PM

if you got 1.6 you can update straight to latest release 1.9

1:45 PM

if you got 1.5 you have to update to 1.6 and then to latest release.

1:45 PM

if i understood it correctly

oh yea, this version hopping should be addresed

obviously not clear what i mean in this part

1:46 PM

will improve it a bit.

https://pastebin.com/raw/8qVY6eCs better? should I save it? I feel like somebody should test the expand storage thing first. And I also removed the info on nickel add on from there because it is quite different to inkbox as os, and unmaintained

2:07 PM

and probably there is a way better way to increase usb storage anyways

it's good. leave it

2:07 PM

this should be automated in the future anyways soo it's good for now

ok

2:10 PM

saved it

How could you know that qemu-img would work ?

Szybet

oh yea, this version hopping should be addresed

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/kernel/commit/3c24aac773743f772ef4a61c6f233919602340ed Reason In June 2021 I had forgotten to make the update script copy the rootfs signature in the update because it was only recently added, not at the same time that rootfs was converted to a squashfs. So I had to fix the mess by providing a 'staging' kernel bind-mounting a working update script then changing that kernel for the normal one and update the rootfs to a version that would update the update script itself.

Allow rootfs update without signature verification bypass · Kobo-In...

This will be a staging kernel in the update between 1.5 and 1.6

okay

tux-linux

How could you know that qemu-img would work ?

it works for me

ok, nice

Well @shwanzy any updates on your work? i'm just checking if people give up

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Haven't even done enough that you could call it giving up

9:22 AM

should I really translate the wiki to german? will change a lot and most trying to install should be fine with english. I'll do it though if wanted. Would much more like to translate inkbox ui because people use that every day!

Szybet

This is easly done with inkbox power daemon, you can add it, basic cpp required

i would like to get this to work the most! But what is easy for you is not for me for sure. Might have to learn actual cpp before continuing... anyways can you explain a little further how a button would be implemented using power daemon? If I can not get it to work can I maybe send you event codes or whatever you need so you can make the buttons work without having the device?

shwanzy

should I really translate the wiki to german? will change a lot and most trying to install should be fine with english. I'll do it though if wanted. Would much more like to translate inkbox ui because people use that every day!

Well its your decission

shwanzy

i would like to get this to work the most! But what is easy for you is not for me for sure. Might have to learn actual cpp before continuing... anyways can you explain a little further how a button would be implemented using power daemon? If I can not get it to work can I maybe send you event codes or whatever you need so you can make the buttons work without having the device?

Well first you would need to root inkbox and then update everything manually, then give me logs from ipd

shwanzy

i would like to get this to work the most! But what is easy for you is not for me for sure. Might have to learn actual cpp before continuing... anyways can you explain a little further how a button would be implemented using power daemon? If I can not get it to work can I maybe send you event codes or whatever you need so you can make the buttons work without having the device?

Before describing the process, you need to tell me how many button there are and what shpuld they do

A: power slider B: screen backlight C: home button

10:11 AM

A works, B should toggle backlight on and off, C should return to home screen

B is easy to do, C not

For b: 1. Add a system wide way to detect thats its a tolino, but still let the device think its the kobo model for compability 2. ( If the button is the same dev device as A ) detect it, if the kobo model and tolino bool match then run a function toggling the backlight. For C: i would do this this way: redesign the communication between apps and ipd to unix sockets, then send a message through this socket that reader should receive and save progress, after 2s kill all apps ( user apps, inkbox, xorg ) and restart inkbox-bin and at last make inkbox start faster ( maybe multi threading the start functions )

Szybet

For b: 1. Add a system wide way to detect thats its a tolino, but still let the device think its the kobo model for compability 2. ( If the button is the same dev device as A ) detect it, if the kobo model and tolino bool match then run a function toggling the backlight. For C: i would do this this way: redesign the communication between apps and ipd to unix sockets, then send a message through this socket that reader should receive and save progress, after 2s kill all apps ( user apps, inkbox, xorg ) and restart inkbox-bin and at last make inkbox start faster ( maybe multi threading the start functions )

We are not there yet

12:25 PM

But it's good ideas. For 2.1+

If he wants he can add it?

1:10 PM

~~Its not much work~~ (edited)

1:10 PM

Even i could but i dont have time

1:11 PM

When i finnish feathernotes, reader, audio and i will be too lazy for xorg then i could do it

Szybet

Well first you would need to root inkbox and then update everything manually, then give me logs from ipd

Well this is priority

Szybet

When i finnish feathernotes, reader, audio and i will be too lazy for xorg then i could do it

Prioritize xorg

im scared and lazy

8:19 PM

for that

8:19 PM

i still have hopes you do that

Well @shwanzy how are you doing? i'm just checking if people give up (2) (edited)

nah I'm just slow.

Well thanks Fancy or whoever this is who helped make the wiki better

yea, @shwanzy

10:09 PM

~~he dissapeared as everyone~~ (edited)

Szybet

lets dont make idiots from people me, this gui above, RDF, me x2

here i am !

hi. what's the best supported device for running inkbox on?

6:45 PM

what kind of battery life should i expect running inkbox on it, and using it just for reading?

Apart from the nia, i think that the battery life is similar ot better

futuresffpcer

hi. what's the best supported device for running inkbox on?

Maybe glo hd, but the nia is also pretty good

i was thinking nia because it's the newest, but its screen is only 212 ppi (compared to the glo hd's 300)

6:51 PM

between the nia and the glo hd, which would you choose?

6:57 PM

other than being older, on paper the glo hd looks like the better device

futuresffpcer

between the nia and the glo hd, which would you choose?

compare eink speed ( diffrent technologies ) and then decide

Hello, I'm trying to update Inkbox from 1.5 to 1.9 but when it plug it in, it keeps restarting and doesn't show in my drives.. Any ideas?

you know you need to go to 1.6 first

Noted. Anyway,

1:49 PM

I didn't actually manage to copy it because it restarts when I plug it in..

1.5 is so old, no idea

1:50 PM

@tux-linux

Wait for 2.0

Or other way, any idea how to flash 1.9 directly, for mini?

it will be released in a few days

Oh :o

if there is no 1.9 image, you need to make it yourself

Not now

1:52 PM

Not worth it

Oki, I shall wait. I had no idea it was this close.

Well you came in the right time

~~it is close to be released from 5 months already~~

1:54 PM

btw cool drawings on twitter you have

O thanks

I certainly hope I will be able to flash the Inkbox 2.0 directly once it arrives... Since I cannot connect to pc for some reason.

you will be able

By the way, are there any alternative ways to load books in the system? It's kinda useless without them..

with a rooted system you can via ssh - and soon we will have syncthing user app

Nice, I will try.

@everyone InkBox OS 2.0 has been released. We hope you will enjoy it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyWu_pHwqNg See https://inkbox.ddns.net/downloads.html for release images. (edited)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36495354

InkBox OS 2.0

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5

8:31 PM

I guess @dill can finally try it out on his Mini

didn't he breaked it?

hm

8:31 PM

idk

Congrats on the release aquaThumbsUp

congratulations ‼️

tux-linux

I guess @dill can finally try it out on his Mini

next week after final exams

Kobo discontinued support for minis. So this will be a nice fix

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When will an e621 client be added?

What is that?...

"mature image board"

10:51 PM

looks suspect

i still dont understand

=porn stuff?

;_;

Raycast [THCoH]

When will an e621 client be added?

no one will add it, i'm not sure even if you pay someone will

10:56 PM

i hope you are just shitposting here

Szybet

What is that?...

Imageboard for yiff (furry porn)

Szybet

i hope you are just shitposting here

I would've been serious if i asked for a client for yiff comics

10:57 PM

As those are black and white either way

Raycast [THCoH]

When will an e621 client be added?

Might be possible to get lolisnatcher running on there I think flutter supports arm linux

OwO

im about to root my ereader after flashing inkbox to it and im seeing an onboard storage size dialogue, the default being 64 MiB, im not sure what this is for, is it the amount of free space in the root partition?

the space available for books

1:06 PM

you can for example set it low & have more space with tinkering on the gui rootfs

ah ok, ill give it the maximum 1024 MiB then

1:06 PM

since i have some large books

1:06 PM

cheers

you can change it later with a fev commands

1:07 PM

to be even larger

1:07 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ah nice, i assume its just resizing a certain partition?

yep, + 2 commands

easy :)

addiotional note: this takes very long, after it the screen will go black and it will be turned off

1:09 PM

wait 3 minutes after the screen goes black, then boot it up

i enabled the system logs so i see it doing stuff

cool

the re is a little bar in the middle shuffling around doin stuff

1:12 PM

im excited to be able to have my ereader running linux with root

to be fair kobo doesnt lock down their ereaders

alongside reading books i think itll be cool to use it as a screen for my raspberry pi via VNC

you can have root there

1:12 PM

the vnc is.. not great for now

im sure i probbaly could but also a foss interface is nice

but usable

Szybet

the vnc is.. not great for now

id expect it not to be great on a slow device like that

we plan to implement a better one, but this will take time, its the last item in the TODO

but i think i could probably make a program with large buttons as a little dashboard to run on the pi which could probably work ok on an e-ink screen

Szybet

we plan to implement a better one, but this will take time, its the last item in the TODO

yeah thats fair, get the important stuff done before the fun things

Spagett

but i think i could probably make a program with large buttons as a little dashboard to run on the pi which could probably work ok on an e-ink screen

what dashboard do you want?

i was meaning for my pi, stuff to start servers and whatnot

why you dont do that from the kobo

1:15 PM

natively

my pi has no screen, so i was thinking it would be cool to be able to use vnc and use the kobo as a little "screen"

1:15 PM

if nothing else just as a little experiment

I understand, but if you plan a dashboard, then the pi is not needed

i mean that the dashboard is for the pi

1:16 PM

if that makes sense

1:17 PM

pi with dashboard to turn on and off stuff like a nextcloud server > uses vnc to display on the kobo = controling pi from my ereader

so if you want to control your pi from the ereader, than the vnc connection is not needed

1:17 PM

but can be done if you want it be very simple

1:18 PM

just saying

yeah i understand it wouldnt be the ideal way to do it

Szybet

the vnc is.. not great for now

It's great when you provide a matching resolution. Your raspberry Pi will have to issue output to 758x1024 video if it's a Glo

i talked about it here

2:01 PM

the rust one

Ok

someday maybe

Well the built-in one is fine too

didn't worked for me & android

When you don't touch the screen

Szybet

didn't worked for me & android

What happened

idk

oh im so dumb

2:44 PM

i forgot to transplant sff library

2:44 PM

and the code i modified was in there

woops

but its still not working

2:47 PM

of course

maybe check if you code is actually executed

2:48 PM

i have doubts

yes it is

2:48 PM

i checked with qdebug

did you tried all the things that i said

i think

Well, someone put it on a russian news site https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=59349

Представлен выпуск операционной системы InkBox OS 2.0 , нацеленной на замену штатных прошивок электронных книг Kobo и Kindle. Системные компоненты InkBox OS 2.0 построены на основе дистрибутива Alpine Linux 3.10 , а в качестве пользовательского окружения задействована развиваемая тем же проектом оболочка InkBox с интерфейсом для чтения элек...

1:42 AM

paulcarroty

InkBox OS – open-source, fully-functional standalone OS for Kobo's eReaders

1:44 AM

https://techplanet.today/post/inkbox-os-20-is-available-a-distribution-for-kobo-and-kindle-e-readers

InkBox OS 2.0 is available, a distribution for Kobo and Kindle e-re...

The release of InkBox OS 2.0, aimed at replacing the stock firmware of Kobo and Kindle e-readers, has been introduced. The system components of InkBox OS 2.0 are built on the basis of the Alpine Linux...

Hmm

1:49 AM

It's great that people are talking about it

1:49 AM

Encouraging for development

1:50 AM

But is it really going to make a difference in two, three months

tux-linux

https://techplanet.today/post/inkbox-os-20-is-available-a-distribution-for-kobo-and-kindle-e-readers

Thats cool

tux-linux

But is it really going to make a difference in two, three months

We will see We need only one new developer, or a few testers to make a diffrence and help us soo

6:33 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

better dont read the russian site

6:44 AM

they are behaving like arch users are shown in memes

2

6:44 AM

i know, no reactions

https://www.debugpoint.com/inkbox-os-2-0/ Looks like this one has been written with ChatGPT

InkBox OS 2.0 Arrives: Huge Updates for Kobo eReader Users

Feature highlights of InkBox OS 2.0 for Kobo, Kindle and other eBook readers, which brings massive updates.

8:28 PM

https://linuxiac.com/inkbox-2-0-ebook-reader-released/

InkBox 2.0 eBook Reader Is Here With a Host of Improvements

Announced as the "Biggest release of InkBox OS ever," the free and open-source eBook reader, InkBox 2.0, impresses with many new features.

8:28 PM

Hey, we have a logo?

no

of course not, was joking

tux-linux

https://www.debugpoint.com/inkbox-os-2-0/ Looks like this one has been written with ChatGPT

partially yes

umm guys how can i connect to wifi if i cant tap the wifi button on statusbar because touchscreen acts up exactly where it is (edited)

12:10 AM

device is kobo glo n613 іf that helps in any way (edited)

Did you replace the back cover of the reader after flashing the SD?

tux-linux

Did you replace the back cover of the reader after flashing the SD?

First boot was with the back cover detached, you mean i need to put the back cover in place before i boot first time after reflashing? (edited)

Why is the back cover important here?

10:58 AM

You can connect to wifi from the shell, available if device is rootef

Szybet

You can connect to wifi from the shell, available if device is rootef

i haven't found something like a terminal on here, i need to install it or something to get shell access on inkbox os or im just blind? (edited)

Root access

11:27 AM

Diagnostics mode

11:27 AM

read the wiki

so I got Inkbox 2.0 running on my original model Kobo Glo, one thing I notice is that project gutenberg integration is very minimal. A search button or link to top 100 books would be much more useful than "latest books" which is almost just mocking you with its lack of anything interesting. also selecting timezone in settings, the scroll bar doesnt do anything you just have to sort of highlight and hope you find the right time zone. perhaps an auto-detect region by network option would be more user intuitive. thats how a debian install seems to do it. other than being a little slow in some places (understandable considering how old the hardware is) its working well.

we know about settings, we plan to change it

9:25 PM

where is it slow?

9:25 PM

as for project gutenberg: Yes, we know that too. We lack developers, there are only 2 of us with little to no support

9:26 PM

we are welcome to new contributors or for donations to motivate

9:26 PM

anyways, thanks for the feedback, its motivating when someone gives it (edited)

I guess you feel the slowness during keyboard presses mostly. noticable delay.

9:30 PM

press the letter A, count to 3, oh there it is

9:31 PM

not that the input on the original kobo OS was particularly responsive either

yes, its bad, we know it

9:33 PM

try sanki & todo app & terminal app

9:33 PM

its better there already

9:33 PM

still - we lack time to implement it everywhere

i see good to know

we need at least a few developers more to dont let this project die

9:36 PM

the creator doesnt have time because of school, i soon won't have much too

I like the idea though not sure what would attract devs.

dont you think that your ereader could od so much more?

9:38 PM

not only reading

9:38 PM

eink devices with android are either crappy or too expensive

9:38 PM

when kobos can do so much more

9:39 PM

note taking, music, rss, messaging, learning...

9:39 PM

at least thats mine motivation

if you can make it so that anyone can port or make their own app in less than 5 min for inkbox that'd probably be amazing too, but probably not compatible with the security policy you guys use (edited)

9:41 PM

is the rooting via menu implemented?

stop complaining about the security...............................

Kuratius

is the rooting via menu implemented?

yes!

ah wasnt sure if I misrembered

Kuratius

if you can make it so that anyone can port or make their own app in less than 5 min for inkbox that'd probably be amazing too, but probably not compatible with the security policy you guys use (edited)

im doing that with apps? rss guard took 3h to port

9:42 PM

matrix client already works, will be ready today / tommorow

oh thats neat

Szybet

yes!

does the wiki have that info yet?

porting will never be easy - you need both hardware and software knowledge

Kuratius

does the wiki have that info yet?

maybe, but i tell that everyone that wants

9:43 PM

tux-linux didnt said you that for some reason & I didn't knew

9:44 PM

there was a student with little linux knowledge that had build inkbox in a few hours with tux-linux help, from scratch

9:45 PM

there is lack in interest, not like with plato - the author doesnt like contributors

Szybet

im doing that with apps? rss guard took 3h to port

because you have the private key i need to document developer mode in wiki

still

2:31 PM

imgtool now automates this

2:31 PM

what are we even talking about

2:31 PM

kuratius was the only person that refused to elaborate and only because imtool, there was no one more

developer mode bypasses sig verification

2:32 PM

not on rootfs itself but on pretty much everything else

2:32 PM

so devs can run user apps on their rooted device without having to create a full image for it

Szybet

kuratius was the only person that refused to elaborate and only because imtool, there was no one more

Refused to elaborate what?

bad english - gived up on something because it was hard

Hi. Will inkbox run on my cheap kobo clara 2e?

Hello, no, no one ported it yet. you can do it (edited)

henrikbruhn

Hi. Will inkbox run on my cheap kobo clara 2e?

Do you have a serial adapter or a raspberry pi?

OK, i guess i will have to read about it in the wiki?

look at the #porting threads

5:51 PM

how its done

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Drivers and hardware communication

5:52 PM

Also kernel versions

every device is diffrent, has a diffrent kernel and devices. some will have the button at /dev/event0 and some atg event3 for example

thank you, never tried porting before

Also the linux kobos run by default is apparently made in a non standard way, so some things don't run by default even when they ought to

5:54 PM

Andi complained about this a few times iirc

is the web browser in inkbox better than the stock browser, which is very limited?

im not confident enought to say that its better. it is what it is.

5:59 PM

What I take away from this is that the people making the os for kobos only have the bare minimum if competence necessary to get a working device and that they will probably have to stop maintaining older devices because they can't keep straight what device requires what dirty hacks (edited)

Hi, how can I get Kindle touch image?

long story short : it doesnt exist because tux-linux thought that no one will want it and now he doesnt have time to create it

9:08 PM

https://swiatczytnikow.pl/postmarketos-czyli-sposob-na-uruchomienie-linuksa-na-czytnikach-kobo/

PostmarketOS – czyli sposób na uruchomienie Linuksa na czytnikach K...

Na niektórych czytnikach Kobo można uruchomić Linuksa. Wszystko dzięki PostmarketOS. Choć nie wiem, czy ma to sens. Czym jest PostmarketOS? To "lekki" system operacyjny oparty na Alpine Linux, rozwijany od roku 2017. Głównym założeniem projektu jest wydłużenie czasu życia smartfonów z Androidem, które producenci porzucają po paru latach. Przygot...

5:20 PM

woah

5:21 PM

a polish news site

would using a faster sd card actually matter? or is the main bottleneck in e-readers the processor/ram?

sd card probably matters for boot time and maybe loading large pdfs

12:28 AM

Everything else should ideally get cached

alright ty :)

RedAuburn

alright ty :)

If you swap a lot between apps that could be affected too

12:30 AM

Like startup time for a browser

1

hullo

1

9:12 AM

what does that even mean

No idea

8:14 PM

wow

Well, yes

nevesito descargar inkbox os para kindle touch

7:45 PM

cómo lo hago

congrats on the porting of Kobo nia model C!

2:23 PM

and thanks!

Agreed, awesome news

1

Hi

1:10 PM

You think you go to support Kindle 2022 in futur or Only Kobo ?

1:10 PM

Best Regards

Hi If someone ports it then it will be supported we are 2 students, can't do everything

1

I understand that thanks for your reply

What are people seeing for battery life? I'm only getting about a week with little use.N905C

disable xorg

its already pretty good

also depends on your use cases

11:03 PM

tldr it can be worse than on the original firmware for various reasons, but not on a lot

Settings?

11:05 PM

Love the ui btw

11:05 PM

Nice a clean

1

you cant really do much than only turn off xorg / keep wifi off

are you on 2.0?

Yeah I'm on 2.0. Put it on first couple weeks of release....have seen if there's been updates since though

develepovement has stopped pretty much

11:13 PM

a few more devices are out or almost out

Turned off WiFi. See what that does

you had wifi turned on this whole time?

Looks like it. Is it on by default?

nope, you need to turn it on and off manually

no

wifi will have a massive impact on battery life

but if you put it to sleep with wifi it will reactivate it on wake up

tux-linux

but if you put it to sleep with wifi it will reactivate it on wake up

you can disable this

well yes

i need to update my system to be able to install discord chat exported, so please wait a few more minutes

no rush at all, and thanks a bunch for doing that for me :)

thats a long lecture

oh woof yeah there's a lot of content in here

11:42 AM

I'll take a peek a little later today to see if I can extract some knowledge out of it

consider reading it from the moment when "atro" user joined it

11:43 AM

before it i dont think there is anything important

11:43 AM

maybe, depends

11:43 AM

tldr atro is the one that made a guide and some progress

ok sweet that's very helpful

ping

replaying in some way as a user of Inkbox per the announcment. the new version has been nice on my Kobo Touch (N905C). use to crash a lot. still slow on larger files but can't complain too much given the hardware vintage. Love that I can run a FOSS ereader with this project. You're doing God's work here.

well we need complains too to improve things the kobo touch is the slowest device to my knowledge - speed on larger files will be fixed. If you described how to reproduce those crashes and create a github issue it would be helpfull thanks for the feedback

2

hi there! this project looks amazing, although I haven't gotten it to work yet. I wrote the inkbox 2.0 N236 image to the SD card for two N236 units I picked up cheap on ebay (my daily carry is clara hd), but neither one will boot from the sd card. The screen blanked, and then it just flashes the light without going any further. What should I do?

3:24 AM

it is a solid white light for about 10 seconds, then the screen flashes and the light starts blinking

3:30 AM

@Szybet

3:30 AM

❤️

Reflash the sd card once more

6:51 AM

its corrupted

6:51 AM

Use balena etcher

Ok thanks! I'll do that

That fixed it! And it flashed way faster than the command line xz piped to dd

8:03 AM

Today I learned etcher can take a compressed image file as input

Balena rechecks if everything worked

8:53 AM

In your example the kernel booted and died, only managed to flash the screen

Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'm not sure how to transfer epub files onto the device. I plug it in via USB to my laptop, and it prompts me to allow the USB connection and then changes the sscreen to "USB connected", but there is no device detected by the PC (running nixos), nothing in dmesg, no file system showing up. I looked at issues and the wiki, but I don't know if I'm just missing something simple.

7:58 PM

I bet it was a cable issue

7:58 PM

brb lol

it works now or not

8:00 PM

look up if anything shows up in dmesg related to this, on host and on inkbox os

8:00 PM

what device do you have once more? kobo touch?

aura se

8:04 PM

nothing in dmesg on laptop

8:04 PM

haven't gotten shell on the device yet, guess I'll do that next

8:04 PM

just tried a third usb cable and none of them work

usb is tricky, there are issues with it

8:07 PM

you need to debug it

8:07 PM

or just upload via scp / syncthing if you dont care

scp is easy enough, but I'd also like to help get it working better

8:14 PM

and I do already have syncthing that syncs to my clara hd

8:15 PM

so probably that'll be the way I move books longterm anyway

well then with scp upload them to /data/onboard then remove the files in .database directory which is in there, open files dialog library will generate and thats it

is it running an sshd by default?

you need to root the device

8:29 PM

did i explained it already?

no, but if there's documentation for that, I can undertake it. plenty of experience with this kind of thing

11:13 PM

is it just a question of flashing the image that allows running unsigned packages?

11:13 PM

I can also volunteer to document some of these things if they are currently undocumented

11:17 PM

this? https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Developer_mode

wifi doesn't find networks · Issue #8 · Kobo-InkBox/rootfs

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/rootfs/issues/8#issuecomment-1678987860 Here its described

I just installed inkbox on my kobo glo (N613). I tried to connect to wifi, but it says no networks were found. In the logs it says: Turning Wi-Fi ON ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted ...

nebajoth

this? https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Developer_mode

Its a diffrwnt things

nebajoth

I can also volunteer to document some of these things if they are currently undocumented

Would be cool, github wiki in the main repo is open

nebajoth

is it just a question of flashing the image that allows running unsigned packages?

You dont need to go soo deep

nebajoth

no, but if there's documentation for that, I can undertake it. plenty of experience with this kind of thing

Wifi is just linux kernel ( modules config compiling and stuff ) and then shell scripts that use typical linux commands And the gui wraps arround them, so easy to debug

Szybet

Wifi is just linux kernel ( modules config compiling and stuff ) and then shell scripts that use typical linux commands And the gui wraps arround them, so easy to debug

Oh and i lost track of the topic Usb mass storage works in a similar way, its just more complicated because of filesystems

11:39 PM

And pipes

Lol it took me three weeks to show up after you posted asking for it, but I will create the wiki page

11:45 PM

And help troubleshoot USB storage

Better late than never

Pretty interesting project, I am glad to help out. I have a Clara HD I love that I would love to see inkbox on eventually. I bought the aura se units essentially to test inkbox, but the hardware is noticeably slower (even on root Kobo firmware) and I ache for the speed of the newer hardware, but with the ability to be Real Linux.

It runs on clara HD But you probably would find it even slower there

Isn't the Clara hd hardware newer?

yes, but because of framebuffer issues, the display is actually slower than most older devices with inkbox os

Yikes

it is usable, but slower in average (edited)

3:13 AM

it has to wait for each update to finish completely before doing a new one

Can the framebuffer issues eventually be addressed?

not by me, but maybe by someone else

3:13 AM

(andi1)

Fair

that is, if he has time

Also fair

https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/1123599049157779557/1131057338732789800

3:16 AM

This was before I enabled the 'force wait after refresh' flag

3:16 AM

So it is currently needed, for obvious reasons

Well that's still pretty exciting

1

When I go to reset the Kobo with root it asks me what the onboard storage size is

4:19 AM

I am confused by this

take at least 256

What is this, the amount I'm dedicating to a fs?

4:20 AM

To install my own apps?

no, to put your books

Aha

whats the default root password?

5:01 AM

got ssh goin

root

gah

5:01 AM

lol ok

5:02 AM

can't update it :/

5:02 AM

probably an overlayfs issue?

Hmm both epubs I opened have the bottom lines cut off

6:13 AM

I tried adjusting margins but it didn't help

6:14 AM

Is this a known issue?

Enable scroll bars in settings

6:16 AM

Yes, it has been improved for next release

when is the next release intended to be?

If I were to get an eink device just for using anki, which one should I get?

nebajoth

when is the next release intended to be?

No idea....

Carol12321

If I were to get an eink device just for using anki, which one should I get?

Kobo nia

Hello. New to InkBox here. Installed it on a Kobo Mini last night. The unit is so slow with frequent freezes that require hard reboot to fix. Any suggestions on how to sort this out? Or is this device just too small and slow to expect more?

Probably the latter It's twelve years old

3:21 PM

What do you mean by 'frequent freezes'

Lets say opening the browser ... takes up to 2 mins and then there does not seem to be any way to close it. Switching from the reading page to the home page in the reader takes about a minute.

3:26 PM

I'm used to a Kindle moded with KO Reader and Alpine, so I know these devices are being stretched to the limit, but this is unusable for me.

disable xorg at all

1

3:37 PM

it should make things better

3:37 PM

as for the reader, the next release will be better

3:37 PM

also... https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/wiki/Improving-InkBox-performance

Improving InkBox performance

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos (and other devices). - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

3:38 PM

look here

OK! Will try some of these.

3:39 PM

What is the fastest Kobo device that runs IB well?

um, nia, glo hd propably?

1

I see a Glo HD for sale locally ... I'll see if I can get it.

How would I go about disabling xorg?

It's in settings

xorg settings exactly saying

Axe

Lets say opening the browser ... takes up to 2 mins and then there does not seem to be any way to close it. Switching from the reading page to the home page in the reader takes about a minute.

to close the browser, you have to click the little sheet of paper with an x on it near the top right of the screen, then click on quit when the menu shows up

5:59 PM

but, two minutes is normal

1

shoot, did I buy the wrong tablets when I got the aura se?

7:46 PM

they are pretty slow

7:47 PM

I should have gotten a glo hd instead?

Probably

7:58 PM

But it's still fine

dont expect too much

8:32 PM

what is lagging on your aura se?

I don't mind the loading time for the os, but the loading time opening an epub file and displaying it could use at least some sort of acknowledgement that something is happening. As it stands, the lack of feedback about whether a touchscreen press has even been registered plus the fact that it takes 20ish seconds for the screen to even change to the epub reader means I've mashed it repeatedly every time because I don't think it's working. It's not so much lag I guess

the whole reader is being rewritten

9:08 PM

when it will be ready? no idea

9:08 PM

its faster for sure

Is it being tracked in a GitHub issue?

no

1:06 AM

here https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/1126492035818467378

Ty

1

Putting InkBox through its paces on my Kobo Mini. I find that I cannot reflow PDF's the way I can on my Kindle KOReader. Is this something that might be coming with the new Reader?

No We don't have 500 devs to help us, so

3:06 AM

I find it usable IMO though

Maybe because I'm on the Mini ... reading by manipulating the scroll bars is unusable really, and thats just PDF's that I printed from a webpage.

well, yea, screen size doesn't help

Would very much like to see Inkbox for the Libra 2, in regards to the announcement question. (wrong channel, oops) (edited)

libra 2 wud be a dream!

+1 libra 2!

+1 libra 2 indeed!

ok, considering it

5:03 AM

thanks for the suggestions

has anyone here have problems where inkbox doesn't wake up, it needs a reset?

3:55 PM

@andi can usb host mode be related to this?

I don't so, usb host may be the problem

and for second time it drained the battery singifically

3:58 PM

to 44%, last time it was 0

3:59 PM

also it wouldnt turn on at all without a charger

3:59 PM

yea i can see issues with hacking the pmic to do things i want ;p

Szybet

also it wouldnt turn on at all without a charger

Well how did you make it work

i connected the charger

Szybet

also it wouldnt turn on at all without a charger

.

5:48 PM

Oh ok

5:49 PM

I read 'with'

Hi! I've just learn about this project. What a great idea, kudos to everyone!

5:10 PM

I wondered, did anyone try to run inkbox on a Tolino Vision 6 (sort of Kobo Libra 2)?

If kobo libra 2 is not supported then it wont work

well, there are often differences in processor between tolino and kobo, often imx6sl vs. imx6sll since a certain generation of reades

tolinos are cute

there is a shit ton of glue so i dislike them

I handed my Inkbox Kobo Nia to a 3 year old today. After opening it, it was on the last page I was reading, but the page turn buttons wouldn't work. I didn't know why, so I suggested he hold down the power button. He did that while running around the room. It was in diagnostics mode. Then I had to chase him to get it back. Somehow he got it to the reset screen before I got it back. I thought, why not soft reset it? It can't read a PDF I put on there, the cover of a book I removed is still on there, and it won't open the epub that I had converted from a PDF of a Bible. So I soft reset it, and then in the start up choose not to enable kobox this time, until you tell me it works better. I thought you might want to know about the friction for dev purposes. Are there any tricks to adding books so they work well?

The year old is a software tester and in scared

7:41 AM

Use koreader for the time being

Qalculate is at least useful with homework

uploading picture here because bot didn't seem to like it

Sanki too

Hi, I see that Kobo Libra H2O (N873) was supported, so I'd like to do that. When I opened the back of my e-reader, I didn't see an SD card. How do I install the new OS ?

hi this model has an eemc with is harder to install it and easier to brick the device forever, additionally the developers dont have time explaining the install process so you would need to figure it out yourself

Just want to say thank you. This is a nice reading experience

You should maybe enable scrollbars

2:46 AM

But nice if you like it

Hi guys I have an old kobo, I'm trying to figure if I can install Inkos. I don't remember exactly the model the serial number starts with N905J so it's a N905, on the website I see two versions B and C, do you know how to check which one is mine? Also the sd is less then 4gb but I can swap it with another 32gb one

Somewhere on the device it should be written down

[matrix] Szybet

Somewhere on the device it should be written down

It's a C! That was simple lol, thank you

Switch to a bigger sd card if you can

~~I don't think any of the 2 links works http://23.163.0.39/bundles/inkbox/native/n905c/inkbox-2.0-n905c.xz \ http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/bundles/inkbox/native/n905c/inkbox-2.0-n905c.xz~~ the 2nd works now, ty (edited)

Because why not

[matrix] Szybet

Switch to a bigger sd card if you can

I can swap the external one with the internal, I have a 32gb

What? The links do work

1

1:47 PM

http://pkgs-inkbox.duckdns.org:25560/bundles/inkbox/native/n905c/ opens up normally

Everything seems to work, swapped the sd and installed. Can I use it with calibre? I'm looking at the wiki but I don't seem to find anything

2:17 PM

If i plug it in I get "unrecognized usb device" in win

No

ah ok, any way to trasfer via usb?

you can't see it in windows explorer?

no

idk sometimes it doesn't work maybe try to unplug/replug or restart kobo/computer

ok.. because if i take off sd and try to read it on pc it doesn't work (edited)

are you connected via usb

i tried but got unrecognized usb device popup and no device shown in win, i'm going to restart both pc and kobo and try again

2:27 PM

Now I can see it, ty. I just have to paste epubs in the database directory?

2:30 PM

also win says 510mb instead of 31gb is that correct or I have to change something in inkbox settings?

it is correct

how does it work then? I cannot paste more then 500mb files inside

2:32 PM

it's a 32gb sd card

its a storage restriction of inkbox images

so the os can "see" only 500mb?

https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Resizing_USB_mass_storage

https://discord.com/channels/809205711778480158/809205711778480162/1129826368696361082

oh god

(edited)

2:35 PM

Can i do that on win too?

probably not

2:36 PM

maybe with wsl

2:36 PM

I would rather use an ubuntu live usb or something like that

I have a linux pc too with manjaro, just lazy to take it out, I'm using that ty

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2:37 PM

I saw something about wifi trasfer when i turned it on, I can use that to fill the sd card too? Do you have a wiki page to explain that too?

2:38 PM

or the partition limitation is the same in that way too?

drop2

Everything seems to work, swapped the sd and installed. Can I use it with calibre? I'm looking at the wiki but I don't seem to find anything

[matrix] Szybet Nope, no suppory yet

drop2

I saw something about wifi trasfer when i turned it on, I can use that to fill the sd card too? Do you have a wiki page to explain that too?

[matrix] Szybet Syncthing and updated rootfs is needed

drop2

or the partition limitation is the same in that way too?

[matrix] Szybet Partition limit affects both transfers

Thank you, I knew I was reassembling the cover too quickly lol

I still use inkbox on 2 glo hd devices but haven't bothered much with updates or interacting due to unfortunate time management. thank you again for making this product and giving new life to old kobo devices. (edited)

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Hi! Kobo Touch H905C here - Inkbox works great but WiFi... No networks found((. btw all networks are visible when I boot it with the original SD card. Any help or point me in the possible direction of how to fix it? Thanks!

Click the refresh buttons a few times

4:33 PM

apart from that, we cant help because we dont have a kobo touch anymore, people with that device are on their own ( as for now no one fixed any issues with it ...)

Refresh does not work. I have an idea it could be an issue with the device not being rooted. Not sure how to do it.

4:36 PM

*refresh does not help

On the github issue page is a glo wifi issue, there is the description how to root

5:05 PM

maybe in the rootfs repo

5:05 PM

Idk if this will help but will help debug things

Thank you

Oh, wifi has a debug button

5:07 PM

Bug button

5:07 PM

Click it and show all logs

does not show anything(

There are arrows to switch tabs

I'll try again tonight

All logs tabs is the one you are interested

ok. thanks

5:09 PM

gotta go)

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Is a working solution for wifi on n905C ?

Try a personal hotspot from your phone

8:40 PM

For me it made it work iirc

Hello, is InkBox available as a standalone application? I am asking because it appears that postmarketOS now runs on the PineNote, and InkBox looks like it could be the perfect software to run on the PineNote.

nope

2:28 PM

a hard nope.

2:28 PM

if it runs postmarket os, it can run inkbox because inkbox uses old alpine as half of its base

2:32 PM

we tried to contact pine to help us port inkbox to it, noone was interested apart from that, current inkbox is not worth it - the reader is bad - for now its more an application launcher ( we have a new reader written in 60% but we dont have time to finish it )

Yeah, my experiences with Pine aren't amazing either. From what I can tell they won't help with anything, other than providing cheap devices (though the PineNote is pretty expensive of course). Though I am more of a customer than a developer.

2:38 PM

Sounds like I would be better off running Xournal++ on postmarketOS then, or just getting something completely proprietary.

[matrix] Julian Groß

Sounds like I would be better off running Xournal++ on postmarketOS then, or just getting something completely proprietary.

you could look into running koreader or plato, though you probably wont be 100 % happy with either of them

2:44 PM

koreader is kind of hard to run on alpine without a lot of work and plato doesnt support rendering epubs correctly

2:44 PM

it is fast, but incorrect

Hello! I've got a silly question - does InkBox integrate with Calibre at all?

Nope, not yet

Thanks!

hello everyone

3:10 PM

i found out about this project after seeing postmarketos has a port for the kobo clara hd, which is relatively modern

3:11 PM

does anyone know how well that works relative to inkbox? its my understanding inkbox only supports older devices as of now

3:11 PM

is there any software for postmarketos that could be used to actually read ebooks comfortably?

trololol

does anyone know how well that works relative to inkbox? its my understanding inkbox only supports older devices as of now

I cant speak to how well pmOS runs on clara had, but there is a yt video where someone did a showcase iirc

yeah i saw that

3:12 PM

looked pretty decent

3:12 PM

is that worse than inkbox though?

trololol

is there any software for postmarketos that could be used to actually read ebooks comfortably?

figure out how to compile plato or do a dirty hack to run koreader?

does anyone here daily drive inkbox?

trololol

does anyone here daily drive inkbox?

[matrix] Szybet me

trololol

is that worse than inkbox though?

pmOS from what I have I seen is better than inkbox on the technical side, worse on the UI side

technical side only because it's a newer kernel but yes

I've suggested making inkbox an OS-agnostic UI program before

3:13 PM

but it was apparently too complicated or not a high priority

Kuratius

figure out how to compile plato or do a dirty hack to run koreader?

figure out as in just compile it or figure it out as in it doesnt want to compile on alpine for some reason?

trololol

figure out as in just compile it or figure it out as in it doesnt want to compile on alpine for some reason?

their build system is weird and I couldnt get the right dependencies without reading all the code to figure out how it fits together and I didnt have time for that

matterbridge

[matrix] Szybet me

and? how does it work for you? do you download books directly onto it through a browser?

trololol

and? how does it work for you? do you download books directly onto it through a browser?

[matrix] Szybet what

Kuratius

their build system is weird and I couldnt get the right dependencies without reading all the code to figure out how it fits together and I didnt have time for that

couldnt even build the emulator because the documentation is just bad

i use syncthing

doesnt list required packages etc

the browser is barely working, no downloading books for sure

Kuratius

couldnt even build the emulator because the documentation is just bad

[matrix] Szybet ugh just stop

i already said

3:16 PM

the emulator is bad

3:16 PM

as for qemu

3:16 PM

it work so shitty even i gived up on it

[matrix] Szybet

the emulator is bad

am talking about plato

the same thing then ;p

[matrix] Szybet

the browser is barely working, no downloading books for sure

what, netsurf?

yes, barely working and lagging

3:18 PM

dont expect much from 255 mb of ram

clara is 512 MB I think

the textedit browser in rss guard works good for bare html files websites

i suppose sideloading isnt too bad

3:21 PM

is inkbox on like a wayyyyy old kernel or just behind?

trololol

is inkbox on like a wayyyyy old kernel or just behind?

wayy old

3:21 PM

2.6

depends on the device

3:21 PM

mine is 4.15

trololol

i suppose sideloading isnt too bad

[matrix] Szybet use syncthing, thats it

[matrix] Szybet

mine is 4.15

oh?

3:23 PM

what is your device btw

trololol

is inkbox on like a wayyyyy old kernel or just behind?

kobo nia, a modified one

What is the version of the chroot enviroment?

Kuratius

Click to see attachment 🖼️

[matrix] Szybet old device has a old kernel, newer device has a never kernel what do you guys expect?

Kuratius

What is the version of the chroot enviroment?

[matrix] Szybet alpine 3.10 and Qt 5.12.1? something like that

stop complaining about the versions, they doesnt matter.

[matrix] Szybet

kobo nia, a modified one

modified? how so, if you dont mind me asking?

trololol

modified? how so, if you dont mind me asking?

[matrix] Szybet https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio

GitHub - Szybet/niAudio: Kobo nia ereader with audio added

Kobo nia ereader with audio added. Contribute to Szybet/niAudio development by creating an account on GitHub.

I write on it in school and listen to music via usb sound card

3:28 PM

+ it has a external sd card slot now and exposed serial pins

hmmm

3:32 PM

has anyone actually successfully compiled plato on postmarketos?

3:32 PM

that seems to be the best option to me

3:32 PM

if not then i think ill go with your thing szybet

3:32 PM

looks pretty cool

thing? inkbox? or the nia back attachment?

trololol

has anyone actually successfully compiled plato on postmarketos?

plato doesnt render epubs correctly, idk if that will bother you

inkbox with your audio mod, since it seems cool

Kuratius

plato doesnt render epubs correctly, idk if that will bother you

incorrectly how? and like

3:34 PM

why

3:34 PM

it seems pretty actively maintained

trololol

it seems pretty actively maintained

idk, ask them what hack they used to get epubs to work ruby syntax for example is ignored

https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/blob/main/pcb-board/final/notes.md the PCB has a lot of errors and requires expert soldering skills to make it work, it would require a remake

niAudio/pcb-board/final/notes.md at main · Szybet/niAudio

Kobo nia ereader with audio added. Contribute to Szybet/niAudio development by creating an account on GitHub.

Kuratius

idk, ask them what hack they used to get epubs to work ruby syntax for example is ignored

has been reported over half a year a go

image.png

3:35 PM

+ there is a cable going, i have a protection for it but its still there

https://github.com/baskerville/plato/issues/244 https://github.com/baskerville/plato/issues/283

and the 3d files require a lot of tryies / grinding to make it work

3:36 PM

tldr: It's a fully working prototype, which means it's hard to replicate

Kuratius

https://github.com/baskerville/plato/issues/244 https://github.com/baskerville/plato/issues/283

Its japanese and ruby support soo

3:37 PM

a filly working epub renderer would require a full edged browser...

trololol

incorrectly how? and like

the plato dev also rarely accepts commits, there's someone who made their own fork because of that https://github.com/thataboy

thataboy - Overview

thataboy has one repository available. Follow their code on GitHub.

is inkbox and that one version of postmarketos the only alternative software that has been found to work on kobos?

3:43 PM

i wonder how much more difficult it would be to get linux working on a kobo and then just try to compile plato, as kuratius said

trololol

i wonder how much more difficult it would be to get linux working on a kobo and then just try to compile plato, as kuratius said

pmOS is linux

this is assuming more kobos COULD run some type of linux as opposed to pmOS specifically

3:44 PM

but i guess thats not necessarily true

3:44 PM

pmOS as of now seems to only work on the kobo clara hd but quite well on that

3:45 PM

including wifi and everything

3:45 PM

dude in that video even used firefox which is crazy

I'm pretty sure they mostly can, you just need to hook up some things like the user interface correctly

Kuratius

I'm pretty sure they mostly can, you just need to hook up some things like the user interface correctly

wdym?

3:46 PM

honestly the reason im asking is because the clara hd is a bit small

trololol

wdym?

once you got booting and a working kernel everything else is just getting ui to work

3:47 PM

and installing software/dependencies correctly

huh

3:48 PM

i would assume the hard part is the actual eink display working

trololol

i would assume the hard part is the actual eink display working

on pmOS it's handled by standard linux interfaces, so if you set environment variables any application can talk to the display

3:50 PM

we had some driver issues initially on the nia where it was giving the wrong color range for the device, but that got fixed

3:51 PM

e.g. DISPLAY=:0 ./your_program worked for the stuff I compiled for the most part

3:51 PM

ran some touchscreen calibrator for example

3:53 PM

only issue for me with pmOS was that xfce is basically too heavy for the nia to reasonably use

3:53 PM

ram limitation

3:53 PM

you end up with like 10 MB left for user programs, 60 MB if you dont count cache

yeah thats rough but xfce isnt exactly THE lightest option

3:54 PM

unrelated but is nickleboot just a firmware mod?

3:54 PM

nicklemenu excuse me

iirc it just adds some extra options to the default nickel interface

Nickelboot no Nickelmenu yes

and nickleboot is?

trololol

i wonder how much more difficult it would be to get linux working on a kobo and then just try to compile plato, as kuratius said

getting some actual shit to work and run like wifi, power management, making it work on many devices, xorg kinda is hard, and then inkbox os exists and does that (edited)

yeah that makes sense

4:07 PM

also is kobo violating the GPL license or are the proprietary parts of it made by them?

4:07 PM

since as i understand kobo DOES run linux by default

4:07 PM

so it is it just userland thats proprietary?

4:08 PM

CAN you find the kernel they use somewhere?

4:08 PM

sorry, stupid questions but i honestly have no clue

4:08 PM

im behind on the e-reader meta

trololol

also is kobo violating the GPL license or are the proprietary parts of it made by them?

the ui part, yes

4:09 PM

the kernel part, no - we use it thats why we run on such many devices

trololol

CAN you find the kernel they use somewhere?

github kobo labs

so nickel is the menu? and thats the proprietary part?

4:10 PM

and its also what inkbox replaces?

inkbox replaces the whole OS, everything

4:11 PM

nickel is the stock OS, and the UI in it

[matrix] Szybet

inkbox replaces the whole OS, everything

but why, if the kernel is free software?

to modify the kernel to allow os to boot a real os

4:12 PM

they use buildroot with is hard to work with

4:13 PM

we use alpine, we have apk from alpine and we can eassly use it

i get it

4:14 PM

is there anything that replaces the proprietary UI but doesnt attempt to replace the kernel, thereby working on newer devices?

koreader, plato do this

again, im not trying to diss inkbox or anything

[matrix] Szybet

koreader, plato do this

are they a userland as well?

4:14 PM

i thought they were more like

yep, userland

apps

they are apps

4:15 PM

that replace the main UI

4:15 PM

you can return to that UI

so its still there

4:15 PM

or do you mean return to it by reflashing it

the problem with this is that any update from the stock os fucks up koreader and plato and more so often resets the ereader completly

trololol

or do you mean return to it by reflashing it

[matrix] Szybet exit button in koreader, litterally

so really its just running on top of the proprietary components, right?

4:16 PM

as opposed to replacing them

4:16 PM

i see

4:21 PM

i ask because i wonder if theres any significant difference in terms of, for example, privacy, between nicklemenu and inkbox/postmarketOS

4:21 PM

and it seems like there is a big difference

4:21 PM

since one just leaves the proprietary elements and the other is a full replacement

OK ive looked at all the options

5:08 PM

seems inkbox is the best choice

5:08 PM

i just wonder how easy reading research papers and such will be on a 6 inch screen

trololol

i just wonder how easy reading research papers and such will be on a 6 inch screen

not very

yyyyeah

Koreader is fine

how so?

Rotate the device

ok valid

And then its fine

6:02 PM

At leats for me

you mean koreader on inkbox im assuming

6:02 PM

actually

Yep

6:03 PM

Use koreader, the main reader sucks and i dont have time to complete the new one

would you mind sending a photo of what it looks like picture quality wise with a random research paper with graphs and such? something like this: https://math.berkeley.edu/~kpmann/penrose%20reading.pdf or this: https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/dimensions.pdf

6:06 PM

if its not too much work ofc

6:06 PM

i guess the glo hd is the best choice for this

Remind me later or tommorow, then i will do it for sure

thanks man

6:13 PM

also, btw, how does koreader fix the issue with pdfs? does it retain the zoom when you rotate the device or something?

presumably you just display part of the paper at its original resolution and then in landscape mode this means you only need to scroll up/down, and you dont need to scroll left/right

6:14 PM

zooming on an ereader isnt really fast

Appologies if this is a really stupid question. However I seem to be able to find nowhere how I can turn off the dark mode in inkbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated

settings page 2: checkbox "enable night mode"

thank you so much. Didn't notice there ware more than one page

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just was wondering if there's a (easyish) way to get the libra2 to work (im realitivly newish to linux, enough to use arch but still feel like a absolute dumbass)

it is an ntx device it's a platform that other supported kobos are on so it's probably not that hard but still hard 'not that hard' by my standards

ah

5:49 AM

i dont even use my libra anymore lol, i just carry my phone around and read chinese webnovels. (edited)

DerpyBoi

i dont even use my libra anymore lol, i just carry my phone around and read chinese webnovels. (edited)

but if it was easy enough to do with my skill in a day, then i would be fine doing it, but seems it might be a little too much work

probably over the course of a week at a minimum

yep

5:51 AM

school is too soon for that

5:51 AM

and too much time for something im probably not gonna touch for atleast half a year

we are always open to device donations if you want your model ported no guarantees, except that we will do our best while keeping up with school

5:52 AM

though i understand if you want to keep it

i doubt you two are close enough and i dont feel like shipping it (edited)

yea its fine

5:53 AM

no worries

5:53 AM

thanks for coming by

i might keep this server in here in hopes that one day, itll be easy to port or smth

one of us lives in canada and the other in poland

5:54 AM

maybe

tux-linux

one of us lives in canada and the other in poland

wait CANADA

yes

i live in canada

laval, qc

nvm

5:54 AM

peterborough, ON

still better than poland

yep

5:55 AM

halfwayish across the world

5:55 AM

In about two weeks of reading (edited)

wdym

5:56 AM

nice font

look at the url

5:56 AM

it has the chapter amount

1017

yep

5:56 AM

chapter 1017 in two weeks of reading

ho wmany pages per chapter

5:56 AM

so probably not much

its a scroll rather then pages, but i can send the link for you to check

5:57 AM

https://boxnovel.com/novel/permanent-martial-arts/chapter-1017/

DieuChauDan

Permanent Martial Arts - Chapter 1017 - 1017 The Arrival of Perfect...

Permanent Martial Arts. Chapter 1017 - 1017 The Arrival of Perfected Deity Thousand Star!. Synopsis It was a dangerous era. Extraterritorial ferocious beasts occupied 90% of the living space in the world, while humans could only survive in a small space

if you want though i doubt inkbox supports that type of book

Ik its just a url

well, you seem to read fast

Yeah i get that

i read fast in french

5:58 AM

i guess

5:58 AM

im reading House of Leaves in english so that takes more time

~~i hate french~~

hard to learn?

have to learn it in school

5:58 AM

im horrid at it

when you havent grown up with it i guess its harder

yeah

5:59 AM

it is

5:59 AM

your brain already establishes rules

5:59 AM

and when you change those, brain hurts

for me i think it was easier to learn english after french it's less complicated

6:00 AM

though there are strange things i get confused with sometimes like to be completely pedantic, if i have an exclamation mark in french i have to put a space before it, and not in english

6:00 AM

same thing with : or ;

# what

6:01 AM

kinda dumb but ok

6:01 AM

i would like to learn another language, but not french

6:01 AM

i dont have french friends or anything

6:02 AM

would rather learn japanese (probably alot harder but i would actually use it semi-regularly)

6:02 AM

due to watching anime

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DerpyBoi

kinda dumb but ok

well, it's the last thing you try to apply when you know the rest nobody's going to yell at you if you don't maybe except in written essays you submit to college

its like saying thats without the '

yea although here im only saving time ;p

i mean with thats its saving ALOT OF TIME even though i touch type, my muscle memory isnt trained for '

needing to constantly switch between english and french keyboards, my muscle memory doesn't really know what to do

yikes

because half the time ' is è and conversely

6:05 AM

english keyboard is SO much more practical for programming

it is

6:06 AM

i know its better due to my small python knowledge and javascript (im not actually writing much code its just using kubejs so i need to understand the syntax of javascript) (edited)

example: typing { or } with ca multilingual keyboard right alt+7 also twisting your hand because you want to reach the keys only with the right hand (edited)

6:08 AM

shift+[ is better imo

right alt + 7? is that for numpad or on number row?

num arrow

i just wasnt sure as i have a tenkeyless keyboard lol

How can I return to main menu while reading a book in Tolino Shine with the built-in button with inkbox firmware?

There is no way to do that, sorry

8:42 PM

You must click the gear and then the home icon

Oh, maybe something that I can modify in the code and then recompile it for myself?

yes you can

Hi, I recently ordered a Libra 2 and deciding if I should set it up with InkBox instead of the default OS. I have a few questions about it: What will I be missing out on? Should I expect better/worse performance and battery life with InkBox? Would getting a new micro SD card with a faster read/write speed increase performance?

libra 2 is not supported.

Joe

Hi, I recently ordered a Libra 2 and deciding if I should set it up with InkBox instead of the default OS. I have a few questions about it: What will I be missing out on? Should I expect better/worse performance and battery life with InkBox? Would getting a new micro SD card with a faster read/write speed increase performance?

the libra 2 currently has issues with uboot and there being different revisions, unless that gets solved soon I would stick with the default OS

12:40 PM

you lose waterproofing on it if you do inkbox

12:40 PM

newer micro sd might increase boot times but not much else I think

12:41 PM

most of the time you are going to wake up from sleep so unless you need extra storage capacity I dont think it matters

test

Quick question to the author, but I might be stupid, is there hope that this project would become open-source at some point?

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

Quick question to the author, but I might be stupid, is there hope that this project would become open-source at some point?

Sir, you are in the wrong discord

10:40 AM

(their problem is not that their project isnt open source, it's that their github project structure is somewhat hard to follow) there are some proprietary firmware blobs from kobo but you cant fix that and they are not what's developed by this project

10:41 AM

szybet made a compile script that downloads all the repos and dependencies and compiles them in a docker container if you want to try

10:41 AM

I did it at one point

10:42 AM

you may have to go back to an older commit if tux broke it again

There are no propertiary blobs.

10:48 AM

Its not hard to follow, a 17 year old me figured it out when i had no experience in such things

kobo uboot isnt a blob?

no, we compile it ourself

10:55 AM

the only blob that nicolas stupidly cals it is uboot device tree which can be decompiled, I did it once already - It's just calibration data...

10:56 AM

and the waveform calibration - It's just 1 and 0, you can look at it it calibrated the eink it's nothing more

Szybet

the only blob that nicolas stupidly cals it is uboot device tree which can be decompiled, I did it once already - It's just calibration data...

oh and there are sources of them in kernel sources

10:57 AM

so stop saying that or I'm gonna hurt someone next time

is the kobo compiler open?

we dont use a propertiary compiler

10:58 AM

we create them ourselfs

10:58 AM

niluje created a script for that

10:58 AM

tools-x

wait I remember plato using the proprietary compiler

10:59 AM

are they lazy?

they do not

11:00 AM

stop making up things

11:00 AM

also

11:00 AM

KOBO JUST USES ARM SUPPLIED TOOLCHAINS

https://github.com/kobolabs/Kobo-Reader/tree/master/toolchain

Kobo-Reader/toolchain at master · kobolabs/Kobo-Reader

Contribute to kobolabs/Kobo-Reader development by creating an account on GitHub.

YES, IT'S LINARO

11:01 AM

https://www.linaro.org/downloads/

Builds & Downloads

This page provides links to popular downloads produced by Linaro’s engineering teams. We maintain development repositories & make regular releases of builds!

11:01 AM

gnu toolchain

11:01 AM

so it's open source somewhere anyway

Kuratius

Sir, you are in the wrong discord

I see, guess I am blind haha.. I am asking because the author doesn't have a kpw3 anymore, so only someone else's attempt would be my hope.

Szybet

Its not hard to follow, a 17 year old me figured it out when i had no experience in such things

Then can you also figure out a kpw3 port please? :DD

kindle 3?

Kindle 8th gen

Szybet

we dont use a propertiary compiler

i compile some kernels using linaro and/or sourcery toolchains

2:55 PM

like, 2010 sourcery toolchains

tux-linux

i compile some kernels using linaro and/or sourcery toolchains

still there is source for them, they are open source

code sourcery is open source?

2:56 PM

i thought it wasnt

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

I see, guess I am blind haha.. I am asking because the author doesn't have a kpw3 anymore, so only someone else's attempt would be my hope.

there was 1 kindle supported, it still is just the process / installation is so complicated it was not described apart from that other kindles are propably locked down so we cant do anything and we focus on other things

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

Then can you also figure out a kpw3 port please? :DD

you do it ;p

Szybet

there was 1 kindle supported, it still is just the process / installation is so complicated it was not described apart from that other kindles are propably locked down so we cant do anything and we focus on other things

Yeah, if it were possible I would have just upcycled the e-ink display and add a pi zero or smth like that to it.

2:59 PM

But I read that it is very deeply soldered in

it's more complicated than that, look at #future there was a conversation about creating an open source ereader

tux-linux

code sourcery is open source?

whatever, not our fault this platform is so locked down

yea

so stop saying its not fully open source because that's bullshit

3:00 PM

its like saying its not open source because the silicon inside has not been photographec layer by layer

3:01 PM

just stop making me angry thank you

3:01 PM

also stop ignoring #future ;p

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

Yeah, if it were possible I would have just upcycled the e-ink display and add a pi zero or smth like that to it.

get a cheap used kobo / tolino and join the project if you want

Well yeah, but I just wanted to give a kindle that I got from my sis after she upgraded a better functionality.

yea not possible even if we tryied, kindles are locked down as heck

Yeah, f*** bezos

just for the future, just dont buy things from evil corporations

3:07 PM

amazon, sony, nintendo, apple

3:07 PM

etc

I didn't buy that kindle

stop your relatives from that

3:07 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hahah, don't worry, I hate on corpos outwardly already

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3:08 PM

Got some people to check out framework as well, after my notebook breaks down I will go with their laptop as well

cool

3:09 PM

I had preordered the framework 16 but because of price / problems with EU shipping I went with a tuxedo instead

I see. It is expensive yeah, but I mean hopefully it should be cheaper in the long term. And refurbished ones on their sites are a little bit cheaper

its expensive as hell, I decided that I can't afford it anyway

3:11 PM

it's I think 2100 Euro vs 1700 Euro Identical spec for the tuxedo

3:12 PM

where the tuxedo one is still expensive

Wasn't it like 1500€-1600€m

3:18 PM

And 13 was like 900-1100

with the dedicated GPU and reasonable specs inside

3:18 PM

the 13 is another story

Yeah, 13 is not really a workstation but it is powerful and paired with a desktop it would work great

I need a better gpu for CAD at least sometimes

Szybet

with the dedicated GPU and reasonable specs inside

Well yeah, but you can get creative there as well, there are people reselling some of the stuff so you could get like 100€ off...

still to expensive

Szybet

I need a better gpu for CAD at least sometimes

I guess in my case I only do basic stuff, since my 2016 gpu goes well with cad

Szybet

still to expensive

True, but unless ur mobile with work/school you can get desktop pc instead or stream from it too

hmm, my old gtx 1050ti laptop which is from 2016 couldn't even load some of my projects anymore ( closing them was a mistake! )

I have R7 M465 :DD

3:22 PM

Which is like GTX 660 or GTX 295

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

True, but unless ur mobile with work/school you can get desktop pc instead or stream from it too

I don't see any sense for a PC for me, I rarely need to move my laptop but I don't need the extra performance of PC anyway

Szybet

I don't see any sense for a PC for me, I rarely need to move my laptop but I don't need the extra performance of PC anyway

Not extra performance, but it is orders of magnitude cheaper for the same performance

It's not that I couldn't afford a framework 16, I just think it's a waste of money and I value my money

3:23 PM

Idk how to put it so you understand

3:24 PM

I could afford it with a headache of "Thats a lot of money for not so much"

460€ for RX 7700 XT + ~200€ CPU + 100€ RAM + 130€ SSD + ~100€ motherboard + <100€ power supply

Szybet

I could afford it with a headache of "Thats a lot of money for not so much"

Yes, I am not telling you to buy it. I am just saying that a desktop would make it more worth for your buck

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

460€ for RX 7700 XT + ~200€ CPU + 100€ RAM + 130€ SSD + ~100€ motherboard + <100€ power supply

1090, so 600$ for me so I can move it when I need it eassly - yea I'm fine with that

𝙉𝙤𝙣𝙍𝙞𝙙𝙞𝙘𝙪𝙡𝙤𝙪𝙨𝘼𝙙𝙟𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚

Yes, I am not telling you to buy it. I am just saying that a desktop would make it more worth for your buck

just trying to explain how I think

Szybet

1090, so 600$ for me so I can move it when I need it eassly - yea I'm fine with that

1090? Isn't gtx 1080 the highest?

1090$, i summed you up

Oh that, yeah

3:28 PM

600 for mobility is a lot when u said you don't move it around too much

I know, but when I need to move it I'm glad I can

3:29 PM

also

3:29 PM

ALSO

3:29 PM

laptop has a battery so it's a UPS for me

3:30 PM

won't shut off when power goes out

True, but not more than 2-3 hours tho

just to save my code and shut it off

3:31 PM

Better than buying shitty mac anyway haha

yea, fuck apple

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I do kinda want to find an old g4 or g5 apple powermac for my collection but modern apple is a disappointment

9:25 PM

One day there will be decent color eink screens and apple will come out with an e-reader and act like they invented the concept

Hi! i already asked this in #chat, but is aura edition 2 v2 supported? I can't get it to boot. It boots with the original firmware, although touchscreen doesn't work.

Touchscreen doesnt work in the original firmware after trying to boot inkbox?

Hmm

12:14 AM

Maybe wrong device driver was run

12:14 AM

What is your model number

12:14 AM

N***

It didn't work before trying inkbox, and of course i don't expect it to work with it, i am just curious about the project

Aura se is n236

12:14 AM

That's the only aura we support

It's n236 too, but there are two versions of it. You can determine which one you have looking at the 7th digit of it's serial number (0 for v1, 2 for v2 IIRC)

Oooh

12:17 AM

Welp

12:17 AM

Idk what one i had

12:17 AM

Don't have it here now

ok, no problem. For what i've seen I think v2 is pretty new

"Its the other one then"

12:19 AM

Well anyway, you can port the device now

I could give it a try, and even could try to get a functional one (or buying a spare screen) eventually

You could use the old one as a second screen, photo frame or smth

12:21 AM

Or even connect a mouse to it

12:21 AM

Its possible with inkbox

12:22 AM

that sounds good

12:22 AM

Is there any beginner's guide or something

Read the wiki, read other porting threads

Ok, thanks!

https://discuss.online/post/5399506

InkBox: An open source ereader OS - Discuss Online

Szybet

https://discuss.online/post/5399506

oh god

I'm writing an essey

essay done

cross posted post: https://discuss.online/post/836098

Has anyone tried Inkbox? - Discuss Online

It's a free software firmware replacement for ereaders based on Alpine Linux. I've not tried it myself but wonder how it compares to the stock firmware on Kobo, particularly in terms of battery life and general performance.

How is the second post 6 months

10:14 PM

How can you cross post to a older post

10:14 PM

Whaaat

Szybet

essay done

yes

10:29 PM

good essay

Kuratius

oh god

well, yes, people are expecting rock solid reader software

10:34 PM

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-commits/2022-11/msg01119.html

10:34 PM

what is this

10:34 PM

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-commits/2022-11/msg01116.html

10:34 PM

we have a guix package

10:34 PM

what are these guys doing

What is guix

lmao

10:35 PM

everything but linux

What

well ok, no

Its just mentioned

look at the second link

Szybet

What

its a package manager i think

10:36 PM

especially for gnu hurd

10:36 PM

which is not linux

What are they doing

losing their time

10:36 PM

idk

It's a distro too

It compiled but never launched, huh

lmao

Probably

yay you write it correctly now

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It's not gnu hurd anymore, as far as I know

10:37 PM

The guix distro is linux based

10:37 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Guix_System

GNU Guix System

GNU Guix System or Guix System (previously known as GuixSD) is a rolling release, free and open source Linux distribution built around the GNU Guix package manager. It enables a declarative operating system configuration and allows system upgrades which the user can rollback. It uses the GNU Shepherd init system and the Linux-libre kernel, with ...

hm ok

10:37 PM

i am confused

Understandable, honestly

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10:41 PM

On the Gutenberg integration: Dosen't Gutenberg have a OPDS catalog? (edited)

10:42 PM

Wouldn't supporting OPDS be like two birds one stone, and give you more of a generalized way to support way more catalogs, i. e. standardebooks?

10:43 PM

I could be wrong

Yes, i do plan on supporting opds

10:59 PM

To replace gutemberg

10:59 PM

Far future tho

10:59 PM

Even nicolas doesnt know it yet

it seems i do now

I honestly mostly don't use project gutenberg, their ebooks are kind of a pain to read compared to standardebooks

With notes in inkbox, is there a way to send them to my Mac?

Which notes

Does Inbox work on a kindle 4? (Model D01100) (edited)

No

Thanks! Any ideas whether it’s possible to do something similar with it so it could function as a simple typer?

Maybe you could inkbox to it

9:46 AM

Idk

9:47 AM

Port*

So my old kindle paperwhite just died and I am looking for a new ebook reader on which I would like to run InkBox (really like the idea of a fully customizeable OS). The thing is,I would really like to have a screen with more than 6", since my phone's screen is already bigger than that. Are there any devices you guys can recommend me? A quick look at the supported device list on github didn't result in any obvious choice, so I wanted to ask if there is a device that either already has ports in progress or should be fairly easy to port to. If not I would be happy to kickstart the porting process for a new device that fits those criterias. I am a professional cpp dev, and while I myself have never worked with serial ports or kernel level code I am somewhat confident that I can figure things out if someone with more experience is willing to guide me. Obviously I would like to avoid devices/manufacturers that make this unnecessarily difficult by using proprietary hardware/drivers, so are there any device families that were more troublesome to support than others during past ports?

Hmm... Idk about a device which is more than 6' - there is a kobo libra port but i think its hard to install? Idk @tux-linux explain Kobo aura h20 is a bit above 6' and already booted inkbox, look up the porting thread Kobo clara 2e should be very easy to port Apart from that, any kobo which has an sd card and kernel sources available ( probably all of them ) should be able to be ported Kobo's are awesome You are a proffesionall dev and we are just students so you know more than us. Did i mention we look for contributors ;)? Serial port is easy to use, no problems with that even we figured it out

[matrix] Szybet

Maybe you could inkbox to it

Thanks! How would I do this? Lol I can access a web browser on the kindle but I haven’t taken it apart to see if there is an internal sd

Look up porting threads

11:27 AM

Apart from that, figure out if its locked up

11:27 AM

Some kindles dont allow booting custom bootloaders and kernels, fuck amazon

11:27 AM

And yes, taking it apart is required

Hmm, I found the libra 2 thread in #porting and looking at the last few messages it would appear like progress is currently stalled.

Im not sure what device it is exaclty

11:35 AM

Nicolas on yt videos shows a bigger ereader, idk which one is it

Szybet

And yes, taking it apart is required

I don’t have an issue taking this thing apart. I have seen someone use a raspberry pi with a kindle paper white. Unsure if that process would work on this one (previous gen)

Idk needs to be checked

hows the kobo libra 2 port going?

#deleted-channel

1:48 PM

We got the kernel sources recently

1:48 PM

For it

Oh, thats great news! Thats the device I am looking into right now.

We didnt booted the kernel yet, we didnt checked if it really is there, the device had many revisions so you might buy a different one (edited)

12:20 PM

To keep in mind^

Out of curiosity, where exactly are the kernel sources located? I checked the kobo github, but that appears to be horribly out of date.

2:40 PM

Yeah, hopefully I get the same rev you are already working on, or something that is similar enough that I can figure it out with a bit of help over the weekend. Worst case I just re-flash the stock OS :/

Ansraer

Out of curiosity, where exactly are the kernel sources located? I checked the kobo github, but that appears to be horribly out of date.

which ones

libra 2

original manufacturers?

2:42 PM

its there, its just not described properly kobo pointed us to the clara 2e sources which may indicate this kernel works for many devices - it works for kobo nia model a for example

2:42 PM

which is cool

2:42 PM

look up the porting threads, there is more info about this

That is weird, since they already have a libra2 folder as well. And the clara 2e kernel tar on github is also more than a year old while there appear to be newer versions of the original OS.

it probably depends on the revision

Yeah, I will figure it out somehow.

3:06 PM

Do you know if I need a microSd or a normal SD card for Kobo devices?

hiiii homies omg

3:40 PM

i found this from like a 3 year old reddit thread and im a security researcher and i think thiis is actually cool asf

3:41 PM

ok hold on

Ansraer

Yeah, I will figure it out somehow.

micro sd or eemc chip

3:41 PM

please check if it has an micro sd, otherwise it can be hard or impossible

oats<3

i found this from like a 3 year old reddit thread and im a security researcher and i think thiis is actually cool asf

cool

3:41 PM

hi

hiiii

3:42 PM

im getting my first ereader in like 15 years because my public library uses libby and i am so excited!!!

inkbox doesnt support libby

OH NOOOO

but you can PR it!

thats okay im more invested in the inkbox research and os more than anything else. Im also getting a clara 2e so to my knowledge i dont have a microsd slot, i think its all internal storage

inkbox is open source

3:43 PM

you can contribute anything you want

3:43 PM

we will help

omg cute okay

oats<3

thats okay im more invested in the inkbox research and os more than anything else. Im also getting a clara 2e so to my knowledge i dont have a microsd slot, i think its all internal storage

clara 2e to my knowledge has a micro sd card AND uses the same kernel as kobo nia model A which should be super easy to port

3:45 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/191unsu/kobo_clara_2e_screen_replacement/

From the kobo community on Reddit: Kobo Clara 2E screen replacement

Explore this post and more from the kobo community

3:45 PM

it has

3:46 PM

eassly to access serial port too

3:46 PM

kobo ❤️

sexy and cute omg

3:46 PM

so happy i chose a kobo over a kindle

i agree

3:46 PM

kindles are locked down for some models that we cant even boot a custom bootloader / kernel

that is FUCKED

yep

ive gotta say i havent done a lot of lowlevel research into ereaders but im really excited to start

1 student created this os and a second student contributes since a year

3:47 PM

we figured it out so its not that hard

im sooo excited

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Szybet

eassly to access serial port too

easily but should write easy

1

Check the email when you have time

Ansraer

but you can PR it!

libby is not open source afaik

Reverse engineer them

are you serious

10:24 PM

its drm technology

Thats exactly why we should hack them

If its only a rest/tcp/websocket API reverse engineering it should be fairly simple with tools such as wireshark. The troublesome thing is that interacting with a public API could count as "illegally accessign a private computer system".

So I have been thinking about how I could go about adding support for other novel formats and libraries (e.g. continously updating webnovels from royalroad, they are a guilty pressure of mine)

8:11 AM

Right now my idea is to create an interface for book objects and remote libraries and then use the low level QT plugin API to let users load their own implementations of these classes. (edited)

8:13 AM

As part of these proposed changes I would probably move the current default epub/pdf/etc novel object into one such extension that is statically linked into the app itself and always enabled.

8:15 AM

The idea is to make it as easy as possible to add new novel formats / libraries for users. Basically if they want to read something we don't support out of the box they should be able to quickly write their own Inkbox plugin to add support.

8:15 AM

Would such a change be accepted as a PR?

8:17 AM

(Of course we would probably need to talk about security later on since out of the box QT plugins are just dyn libraries that are loaded at runtime, but adding some kind of signing check before loading them should be fairly simple)

Ansraer

Would such a change be accepted as a PR?

Yes

Ansraer

(Of course we would probably need to talk about security later on since out of the box QT plugins are just dyn libraries that are loaded at runtime, but adding some kind of signing check before loading them should be fairly simple)

They could be signed like all things in inkbox do

Ansraer

Right now my idea is to create an interface for book objects and remote libraries and then use the low level QT plugin API to let users load their own implementations of these classes. (edited)

In our new reader which is in the works we use mupdf

8:51 AM

Converting it to use a format class is possible for sure

Ah, thats good to know. Do you have this new reader on github somewhere?

On my github inkbox fork, branch named toreader

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8:53 AM

Basically every thing format dependeng would go to call a class

My idea was that the plugin's novel implementation would transform the book data into a generic format that is then sent to the reader. So the reader would always get the same input format, and all the conversion happens in the plugin.

Mupdf converts everything into html

8:56 AM

So that would be possible for sure

Ah, that sounds great!

8:57 AM

hmm, does mupdf support css?

8:57 AM

not realle relevant to the plugin system, but it would open up some interesting possibilites.

Kind of a few things

8:58 AM

But qt subset of css is limited

8:58 AM

But we could build qt webengine 5.10 to enable more of it But i wasnt able to cross compile it

Ah, so the QT Inkbox app calls Mupdf, which returns HTML code which is then rendered by QT?

9:01 AM

I thought mupdf rendered the html to a framebuffer that was then embedded as an image, but keeping all the rendering in Inkbox itself sounds way better

Its more complicated thsn that because we use mupdf library directly but yes

Ansraer

I thought mupdf rendered the html to a framebuffer that was then embedded as an image, but keeping all the rendering in Inkbox itself sounds way better

Its not efficient and doesnt enable selecting the text, but yes possible it is

Good to know that Inkbox already includes the qt webengine. Adding that would have been another PR I might have looked into over the summer. I would like to get interactive text adventures running on my ereader, and I know that many of them support html/js. So going that route would be faaar simpler than implementing my own text adventurer parser in c++ (especially given how many formats there are).

You didnt understand me, it doesnt include it because we wasnt able to compile it at all

9:04 AM

Text adventures? We have an app for that

Wait, how do you render the mupdf output without it?

Qtextbrowser

9:04 AM

Which is very basic html and css

I ...did not even know that was a thing

9:05 AM

Odd though that webengine isn't compiling, afaik that is a fairly popular module. I take it there are only problems when compiling for the more exotic platforms?

Qt has many mystery classes

Yes

9:13 AM

glibc is old

9:14 AM

So we need an older version of qt webengine, maybe 5.1 will work but nss is too hard to compile

9:14 AM

But mysl qt should work

9:14 AM

So there are 2 ways to do that

uhm, why are you using an old glibc version?

Old kernels

But the releases on github aren't older than 1-3 years

9:15 AM

wait, how old is the stuff that is based on?

Some devices have kernel 2.9 x, even no so old ones

9:17 AM

Its not really tha of a limitation, as i described there are 2 paths how to make it work

Ah, makes sense. Kind of a shame since proper js and css support would have been neat, but I fight enough with buildsystems at work to volunteer to do it in my spare time as well.

Well its possible but yea

The fact that the codebase is using lower camel case for cpp class names is killing me. What is wrong with UpperCamelCase?

Upper camel case is used for object names

10:08 AM

At least should be

10:08 AM

Welp my programming is questionable sometimes

10:08 AM

~~Programming at night is questionable too~~

Uhm, no it isn't? https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/blob/35bf9f9014383f6c30ade32446fd467e83a68550/src/homeWidget/mainwindow.h#L113

10:17 AM

What in god's name is explore_local_library.sh, why does it exist, where does it exist (cause I can't find it on GH) and are there any other sh files I should know about?

Gui bundle

10:52 AM

Repo

10:52 AM

Some or maybe most of injbox code should be rewritten

10:52 AM

thanks. The question remains, why? It would have been far more efficient to do the library loading in cpp

Because nicolas

10:53 AM

Fewl free to rewrite that, or everything really

Also, we REALLY need some kind of device abstraction. There are unnecessary if/else everywhere and for some reason inkbox thinks my laptop isn't wifi capable.

Yes

10:54 AM

You are right There are 2 of us, we focused to get something working at all. Now its time to do it properlh

Ansraer

Also, we REALLY need some kind of device abstraction. There are unnecessary if/else everywhere and for some reason inkbox thinks my laptop isn't wifi capable.

Wifi what?

global::device::isWifiAble

10:55 AM

which is only set when a config file exists, which, I pressume, is created manualy when you bundle inkbox as part of the OS

The global thing is bad, its the main thing to rewrite

10:56 AM

But yes, this bool indicates if a device has working wifi ( probably )

10:56 AM

Idk

10:56 AM

In imgtool probably

10:58 AM

Feel free to rewrite anything you want, i plan to do that anyway in summer

Ansraer

Also, we REALLY need some kind of device abstraction. There are unnecessary if/else everywhere and for some reason inkbox thinks my laptop isn't wifi capable.

Wait did you run inkbox on your pc? Thats not supported

I am

10:59 AM

I know, but it is way fast to test stuff and debug

Not supported and no reason for it to be

10:59 AM

Yea

So I am hacking it to work.

11:00 AM

Managed to get it running in 5 min

11:01 AM

Problem are all the external files like e.g. the sh scripts, but imo all of them should just be brought into inkbox itself. So ideally I would like inkbox to support running on a PC out of the box.

Yes, sure

11:01 AM

But maybe first rewrite things to make them properly

11:02 AM

Dont build on bad code that will be rewritten anyway

11:02 AM

I may share a TODO for inkbox if you want to start

I probably want to start by rewriting how book metadata is stored.

11:04 AM

Right now it just passes json objects around and deserializes what it needs, often repeatedly.

11:04 AM

imo we should deserialize that once into a struct and then only pass that around. Would be far cleaner code

11:05 AM

out of curiosity, what is /mnt/onboard/.adds/inkbox/eink.qss (edited)

ah, apparently that is the stylesheet. Does this change between different e-readers or why isn't this just included in /resources?

Ansraer

Right now it just passes json objects around and deserializes what it needs, often repeatedly.

Its library metadata

Ansraer

ah, apparently that is the stylesheet. Does this change between different e-readers or why isn't this just included in /resources?

Different sizes, some adjustments Making svg scale is hard, so yea. Maybe it could be one typical but im not sure its possible

Fuck this, I am PRing a platform refactor

Yes, very cool

11:15 AM

If you are so invested i could give you access to one of my ereaders

11:15 AM

Via ssh

11:15 AM

I have already a tool to view the screen on pc

tbh I am fairly happy with my current setup. Since i plan to get it running on PC anyways.

Okay

And I should hopefully have my libra2 soon. (Though I am still waiting for someone to test the kernel, cause thats something I have little experience with)

@tux-linux please

Ansraer

tbh I am fairly happy with my current setup. Since i plan to get it running on PC anyways.

So i should probably give you the todo of what to refactor in inkbox code

Btw, would it be ok if I move the UI stuff (reader, home, library, splash, etc.) into a "ui" subfolder?

11:17 AM

Maybe make a GH issue out of it?

Yep

11:18 AM

No, just do it

11:18 AM

Widgets folder too

My goal would be something like:

inkbox/
  - api/
  - audio/
  - encryption/
  - platform/
  - ui/
    - splash/
    - home/
    ...
  - telemetry/

I will post the todo later, cant on my phone

11:21 AM

Yes, cool

11:22 AM

Here are some ss of them Some of the things you cant do, but refactoring code for sure

11:22 AM

+ my recent message at #dev

Hmm, will look into this some more after work. What I could really need is a list of the different screen sizes (in pixels) that the supported devices have. Right now a lot of UI decisions (padding sizes, icon sizes, ...) are based on the device id, but imo going by screen size would make much more sense and also have the advantage to work out of the box for new devices once their screen size has been added.

Not all devices have the same screen size despite having the same resolution

1:58 PM

Hence the need for device ids

Well, the current way of doing it just isn't feasible long term

So yes it would be great but wouldn't be perfect for every device

Right now screen sizes are hard coded in massive if/else statements. We either need to have a limited number of different icon sizes (e.g. small medium and large) that can be hardcoded for a specific device or we need a way to calculate icon sizes automatically based on data we have about the device (e.g. resolution and/or dpi)

Yes, I already calculate icon sizes

2:12 PM

The current deviceID implementation should be improved but I don't really see how

Via configs and classes

@Ansraer do you have a fork of inkbox repo on github?

I am at work right now, will upload my stuff in 2 hours.

2:32 PM

The device related stuff is pretty much done, I am fighting with functions.h right now.

2:33 PM

That file contains way too much code from all over the project.

2:33 PM

I am trying to split it up, but it is a difficult process.

yea, thanks for your work (edited)

I will probably stop soonish and just PR what I have right now, I can continue cleaning stuff up as I refine and rewrite things during my next PRs.

1

it's better to leave functions.h unchanged for now until you redesign it completely then I think

The one thing I really want to figure out is how I can make stylesheet loading better. Right now we are using hardcoded paths to qss files all over the place, so changing those styles would be a nightmare. Having a small utility function that handles the majority of that would help to keep code duplication down while also giving us a single central spot we would need to edit if we want to change something.

the qss file is integrated into the binary

2:37 PM

but yea

The problem is that right now there isn't really a good spot where I can put a small utility function.

2:37 PM

uhm no?

2:37 PM

Since it has device specific overwrites it is loaded from outside the binary

oh

2:38 PM

yes

2:38 PM

sorry i was confused from when it was integrated in the binary

2:38 PM

that was before we had different screen sizes

2:38 PM

but it's a fixed path in the os

So we have dozens of hardcoded paths to a random location on the filesystem, that only work when the app is running on the custom OS.

2:39 PM

it is fixed, but every time the Stylesheet is loaded it needs to supply the full path:

yes

2:39 PM

thanks qt

QFile stylesheetFile("/mnt/onboard/.adds/inkbox/eink.qss");
stylesheetFile.open(QFile::ReadOnly);
w.setStyleSheet(stylesheetFile.readAll());
stylesheetFile.close();

We have the above code snippet dozens of times throughout the code base. I would prefer it if we could do something along the lines of: Style::applyStyle(&w, "eink"); This way we won't need to make sure that everything uses the same path (since that is handled by the function) while also having a really easy option to switch the path when running on a platform where we don't control the devices full file system.

2:44 PM

The thing is that right now I have no clue where to put this. Since I REALLY don't want to add any new code to functions.h

yea maybe a macro

2:47 PM

at worst

tux-linux

it's better to leave functions.h unchanged for now until you redesign it completely then I think

No, let it finally burn

3:08 PM

@tux-linux @Ansraer applying stylesheet from a file should and is app wide, so its not needed everywhere Look at sanki code, it uses it only once As for how to use it on PC... Just include it in the binary if the target is PC, some ifdefs will do for that

Uhm... The current codebase does it 25 times

Yea we were really stupid

at least. Search for "stylesheetFile("

3:09 PM

So, when and where should I do this instead?

Szybet

@tux-linux @Ansraer applying stylesheet from a file should and is app wide, so its not needed everywhere Look at sanki code, it uses it only once As for how to use it on PC... Just include it in the binary if the target is PC, some ifdefs will do for that

no, it is

3:09 PM

qt is fucked

If its using it for something specific thats another thing

tux-linux

no, it is

Dont force me to turn my laptop on to show you sanki code

Because it looks like I need to set it for every widget

Oh god eh

yes, you need for every widget

@Ansraer look up sanki repo on my github

tux-linux

yes, you need for every widget

Ah and i wanted to sleep, give me a minute i will go to my laptop

3:13 PM

yes its only once

3:13 PM

        a.setStyle("windows");
        QFile stylesheetFile("://other/eink.qss");
        stylesheetFile.open(QFile::ReadOnly);
        a.setStyleSheet(stylesheetFile.readAll());
        stylesheetFile.close();
        qDebug() << "Applied stylesheet for ereader";

3:13 PM

here is how to do it in main.cpp

3:14 PM

the path i use is in binary via qrc files

did you try it in inkbox

listen

3:14 PM

inkbox is not a cursed demon

3:14 PM

we can make it work everywhere

3:14 PM

thank you

Szybet

inkbox is not a cursed demon

it is

https://github.com/Szybet/sanki/blob/f710ebc41b4fc89187ee1e376c6a5354c7f497d9/main.cpp#L187-L192

sanki/main.cpp at f710ebc41b4fc89187ee1e376c6a5354c7f497d9 · Szybet...

small anki app rewritten for e-readers, with focus on InkBox support, written in Qt5 & C++ - Szybet/sanki

tux-linux

it is

sanki was too after i have rewritten it

3:15 PM

the real demons are all the errors we have done when we started coding

Ansraer

QFile stylesheetFile("/mnt/onboard/.adds/inkbox/eink.qss");
stylesheetFile.open(QFile::ReadOnly);
w.setStyleSheet(stylesheetFile.readAll());
stylesheetFile.close();

We have the above code snippet dozens of times throughout the code base. I would prefer it if we could do something along the lines of: Style::applyStyle(&w, "eink"); This way we won't need to make sure that everything uses the same path (since that is handled by the function) while also having a really easy option to switch the path when running on a platform where we don't control the devices full file system.

now for the mainwindow but for the qapp

3:16 PM

thats the difference

3:16 PM

:D

3:16 PM

so discussion closed

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/blob/master/src%2Fmain.cpp#L220-L223

inkbox/src/main.cpp at master · Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos (and other devices). - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

3:16 PM

See? It didn't do anything

MainWindow w

Hm

QApplication a(argc, argv);

3:17 PM

ah, kobo nia, nice

8:50 PM

I have it too, I ported it

8:50 PM

I develop inkbox on it

8:50 PM

usb should work ;p

8:50 PM

well the issue then is the small size, right?

yeah,the size of the SD card is the issue.. yeah

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/wiki/Resizing-USB-mass-storage

Resizing USB mass storage

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos (and other devices). - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

8:52 PM

Here, it's a flaw of the current implementation, I plan to fix it this summer

hey this is great

for now it's needed to be done manually

anyway to do it from WindBlows?

use the second solution directly

Xsf_Nrg_4fr

anyway to do it from WindBlows?

what is that

8:52 PM

windows?

8:52 PM

ah

yup

Hmmm, I quess from virtualbox or WSL with no issue (edited)

okay, I see

or other linux to windows toolkit or smth

I will see what i can come up with, tahnk you

1

turn of kobox if the device feels too slow for you (edited)

BlinkOS is a less clear name

6:29 PM

Dosen't advertise itself well

It's not a copyrighted tatoo technology name

You need people to be able to read the name and have a clearer hint of where the product is used

6:30 PM

Like something related to the fact that this is ereader software

6:30 PM

BlinkOS feels generic

Blink OS hmm, it's an OS for what? blink? what electronic do blink? EINK screen blink a lot from white to black :D

Yeah, no

we had a lot of propositions at #future

6:31 PM

this is really the only one

hm no?

this one makes the most sense

That's really not going to be people's first guess

6:32 PM

OH YEAH BlinkOS that must be for ereader devices because only eink blinks

6:32 PM

Who would think this

there are worse names used for bigger things, you know

I can imagine the brainstorming that lead to the name

https://answers.justia.com/question/2023/05/03/can-i-trademark-a-name-that-may-be-used-960038

Can I trademark a name that may be used by another company on a dif...

Read 4 Answers from lawyers to Can I trademark a name that may be used by another company on a different industry? - Intellectual Property Questions & Answers - Justia Ask a Lawyer

But I don't think it's a great name

Szybet

there are worse names used for bigger things, you know

I understand, InkBox isn't a good candidate any longer, as well

mintpilo

Who would think this

I hope for an "Oooh that's why it is so"

But neither is BlinkOS

Xsf_Nrg_4fr

https://answers.justia.com/question/2023/05/03/can-i-trademark-a-name-that-may-be-used-960038

this is reassuring

InkBox OS seems okay to me... is a decidedly different use case and industry from some tatoo company

6:34 PM

If the name is always appended by OS, then it will clearly avoid confusion, and the due diligence is exercised

Xsf_Nrg_4fr

https://answers.justia.com/question/2023/05/03/can-i-trademark-a-name-that-may-be-used-960038

To you and @mintpilo regarding this even if the tatoo company will be okay with it, in our 2.0 release every post had a comment "What? the tatoo thing?"

Yes

And yes it's bad

I'm not saying you should go with InkBox

6:34 PM

This needs more brainstorming

well, any other, better propositions ~~that nicolas will accept~~?

mintpilo

This needs more brainstorming

a few months is enough for me

Hi, I was trying to install inkbox on my Kobo Nia. When I try to flash the image with balena etcher it says that the image is corrupted.

hi

10:58 PM

ss?

Szybet

ss?

?

Did you try to checksum the image?

2:11 PM

inkbox-2.0-n705.xz    2e103043cafe391b75d37907c25f5a5d1437f1e630008c612c882d19ff837446
inkbox-2.0-n905b.xz    3e0a1826aefc2ee801b4333e8a4666bf83cb0ab025ea0f156ffc650fccc23b57
inkbox-2.0-n905c.xz    4a163146b09faff5d0051c1f7521cc05e0563b879b33e44a4c23146232c78b6d
inkbox-2.0-n613.xz    d62d6fd2a20170e0d000635ac89005fee335f04749686062aaea3878ce240a6e
inkbox-2.0-n236.xz    fbf846fcd9111fc0f09961c62b98e2249f1032822497a5ba00f1afe4b63d69c7
inkbox-2.0-n437.xz    fb5f083b3c2c878bb66cf7a732e6dc4d9fc68707e9a6bf5efc1e43b2d0b3ece5
inkbox-2.0-n306_a.xz    6f86d2924d11b063286875fa18c57e6dd221d484ab49340db3686f3e7a61963e

2:11 PM

sha256sum

tux-linux

Did you try to checksum the image?

I wanted to do so but didn't know how to do that on windows

https://techdocs.akamai.com/download-ctr/docs/verify-checksum

So I tried another image of another device but still the same error in balena etcher I even changed pc

dont try another image

2:12 PM

it will brick your device probably

2:13 PM

maybe etcher is the problem otherwise you can try with linux vm/livecd

tux-linux

it will brick your device probably

I know I was trying to see if etcher was ok

1

2:14 PM

I even changed PC but still the same error

tux-linux

https://techdocs.akamai.com/download-ctr/docs/verify-checksum

Anyways, thanks for the link (edited)

Tell me if the checksums match

Ok

2:17 PM

I'll let you know

Leo Chrom

?

screen shot

tux-linux

Tell me if the checksums match

They match

hmm

2:46 PM

try linux livecd

screen

2:46 PM

shot

2:47 PM

It's a very long error

run with root

2:47 PM

balena dtcher

Same error

try a different sd card

2:49 PM

I changed SD but still the same problem

2:50 PM

I'm trying with linux

fucking javascript

2:50 PM

try linux, yea

Szybet

try linux, yea

Still etcher?

2:50 PM

Or dd

yes, if that won't work then dd

I found an iso in my pc

2:52 PM

Mint 21

will be fine

It's not reading my SD card

Uhuuu

3:28 PM

It's working after lots of typos

3:28 PM

Probably

Nothing is happening (edited)

3:40 PM

Oh yes it's flashing

idk what you are doing but your sd card maybe entered read only mode

4:09 PM

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-fix-my-micro-SD-card-that-became-a-read-only-memory-card

How do I fix my micro SD card that became a read-only memory card?

Answer (1 of 23): A micro SD card becoming read-only can be frustrating, but there are several ways to try and fix it. Here are some methods you can try, starting with the least intrusive and progressively moving towards more advanced options:

Physical Lock Switch: Some micro SD cards have a ...

@Szybet @tux-linux thank you so much

3

How are the impressions?

Do you mean mine?

5:23 PM

I'm trying rn to make the otg thing work

5:24 PM

But overall it's amazing there is a huge work behind this project

I'm still learning how to use the user apps and how kobox works

Leo Chrom

I'm trying rn to make the otg thing work

WHY DONT YOU ASK :(?

What's wrong

He's burning with motivation

everything is perfect. https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio

GitHub - Szybet/niAudio: Kobo nia ereader with audio added

Kobo nia ereader with audio added. Contribute to Szybet/niAudio development by creating an account on GitHub.

6:14 PM

i have been using my kobo nia with keyboard for a year in school

Szybet

i have been using my kobo nia with keyboard for a year in school

Well idk what I'm doing wrong but it's not doing anything

the TLDR is that you need to charge your Nia and change a few things inside the device

6:15 PM

a few commands

6:15 PM

first root your device

Leo Chrom

I'm still learning how to use the user apps and how kobox works

kobox is a bit bad, i suggest you turn it off

Szybet

the TLDR is that you need to charge your Nia and change a few things inside the device

Oh, well I'm not too experienced

Szybet

everything is perfect. https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio

this is a project which uses a custom PCB and 3d printed parts to create a modular laptop, look up here: https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio/tree/main/keyboard

Oh ok

6:17 PM

I'll try thank you

so it's a overkill solution to what you are trying to do

Leo Chrom

Oh, well I'm not too experienced

yea i propose you ask me everything about usb otg because i have spent one year making it work with inkbox (edited)

allright

6:20 PM

Seems like it's well spent time

6:20 PM

Bc it's so useful with a keyboard

for a year I have been writing notes on it in school

6:21 PM

worked awesome

Wow

It's a full working prototype

6:22 PM

would need a 2.0 version for sure but yea

Szybet

would need a 2.0 version for sure but yea

ofc it is i've just installed yesterday lol (edited)

I mean the niaudio thing

6:23 PM

inkbox supports USB in a fair way

Szybet

I mean the niaudio thing

electronics etc.

great

yes, usb on the kobos is nice

so basically you can connect lots of pheripals (edited)

I am also using it in an unusual way

6:26 PM

if you provide the external power

6:26 PM

yes

Leo Chrom

so basically you can connect lots of pheripals (edited)

it depends

6:26 PM

now it's a yes

6:26 PM

making hot plugging input devices was hard

6:26 PM

mouse support was hard to implement too

6:27 PM

audio support is still complicated

what is a bit nasty: if you have old kernels and usb devices not supported by them

how nia can play audio

6:27 PM

you need an ext speaker

usb soundcard

Via usb sound card ;p

Szybet

Via usb sound card ;p

ohhh

that's the thing why i created this thing

6:27 PM

it has a slot on the back where the usb audio card slides in

so basically with feather notes otg keyboard is supported

mouse too

6:29 PM

keyboard in rss guard also works

6:29 PM

audio is complicated but can be done to work

6:30 PM

but yes, feathernotes was my main target

amazing

6:33 PM

i always wondered if it was possible to mess around with a kobo nia but i didn't know that all of this was possible

everything is possible if you spend enough time on it

6:33 PM

I spend a year

well now i have a strange problem

6:34 PM

i put feather notes inside .apps folder but it disappeared (edited)

what

yes i tried 2 times already

you unmounted it incorrectly?

no

whatever, root your device

6:39 PM

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4407543#post4407543

Nia Niaudio - Kobo nia with full USB capabilities - MobileRead Forums

Nia Niaudio - Kobo nia with full USB capabilities Kobo Developer's Corner

6:39 PM

i posted about it here too

Szybet

i posted about it here too

alr, hope i'm able to

Szybet

whatever, root your device

then upload this app remotely, usb is finnicky

6:40 PM

you won't be able to make usb work without rooting the device anyway

but do you need any particular hardware?

nope, not really

Szybet

everything is perfect. https://github.com/Szybet/niAudio

so how can i do it is it in here?

you mean what

6:42 PM

make usb work?

root my kobo

nooo

6:42 PM

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/wiki

Home

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos (and other devices). - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

6:42 PM

here

oh arl thx

https://github.com/Kobo-InkBox/inkbox/wiki/How-to-root-the-device-and-how-to-connect-to-WiFi-using-USBNET-or-ITERM-CLI

How to root the device and how to connect to WiFi using USBNET or I...

An open-source, Qt-based eBook reader for Kobos (and other devices). - Kobo-InkBox/inkbox

6:42 PM

here exactly

6:43 PM

a bit chaotic

6:43 PM

but you will figure it out

ye i already read the wiki didn't notice this article

its chaotic

yes but after this what i get

6:44 PM

the usb thing?

I will give you a funny command and it will make your usb work

6:45 PM

after that we will see

6:45 PM

also figure out a way to power the device while having the keyboard plugged in

yes but if i do this procedure basically i'm able to do more intresting things

rooting the device? yes, obviously

alr

6:48 PM

well if i don't understand something i'll let you know

1

6:49 PM

since i don't have linux installed is it all possible on a live cd?

yea

6:50 PM

or virtualbox

6:50 PM

maybe virtualbox or wsl, you will waste time booting the things

i've got wsl but it's a mess when you have ext devices

you only need ssh & scp

well idk what they are

magick tools

6:52 PM

google it, wsl has them for sure

Idk what's going on everytime I put feather notes it disappears

6:54 PM

Is it limited to 3 apps?

no

So how it's possible

idk

6:54 PM

@Szybet

6:54 PM

is the scrollbar at the most farther down position

It simply disappears

hm

tux-linux

is the scrollbar at the most farther down position

Yes but as you can see it disappears completely

wait for szybet he designed user apps

create an empty folder, unmount, mount and check if it exists

6:58 PM

also root the device as i said to upload the app manually

Szybet

also root the device as i said to upload the app manually

Well I can't do that right now since I don't have much time left

you can just launch diags process to root it

But I'll try to make the folder

tux-linux

you can just launch diags process to root it

Really?

you need to do it anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

go to diags->reset as root

7:00 PM

will take ~20m

7:00 PM

also

7:00 PM

leave it plugged in

tux-linux

go to diags->reset as root

Uh. Diagnostics?

click power button repeatedly at boot

tux-linux

click power button repeatedly at boot

Yes ik I've discovered that

7:00 PM

I'll try

Szybet

create an empty folder, unmount, mount and check if it exists

It exists

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

7:03 PM

no idea

Lol

root the device

I'm resetting with root

Leo Chrom

I'm resetting with root

What is this

choose 512

Is it related to my SD card size

yes but no

Oh

choose 512, can be changed later anyway

Szybet

choose 512, can be changed later anyway

Oh ok but it's not the storage size for the user

yes but no

7:29 PM

its complicated

In the meantime it's resetting

It's black

it rebooted?

7:42 PM

did you try to power it on

It just turned black

tux-linux

did you try to power it on

No

well, try to

I'm keeping this off as you suggested

7:48 PM

even bc i noticed that sometimes it made my kobo freeze

7:54 PM

Awesome

7:58 PM

Wahoooooooooooooo

1

now, i have rooted my device, so what should i do to enable the otg

8:30 PM

the keyboard and mouse

do you have any way to charge the device while the keyboard is connected

oh

8:30 PM

probably

figure this out first

8:30 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mhm can this work?

9:13 PM

The keyboard only powers up briefly (edited)

9:16 PM

It's charging but the keyboard doesn't work

caution, this icon does not necessarily update in real-time

9:16 PM

only when you change tabs

Leo Chrom

The keyboard only powers up briefly (edited)

maybe is it too power-hungry somehow

yea, but now try to unplug it

Well it's not updating

9:19 PM

But the point is that the keyboard seems to work but then it turns off

do you have another one to play around with

Another what

keyboard

Oh yes

9:22 PM

The other doesn't work too

9:23 PM

This powers up though

9:25 PM

Well, this usb doesn't so maybe everything is not working

oof, don't expect anything to work

9:25 PM

are you sure the keyboard and the ereader is charging / has power?

9:25 PM

and they are connected?

The ereader is charging

well ok, connect to the ereader via ssh

9:27 PM

then upload feathernotes ( its in /data/onboard/.apps/ )

9:27 PM

reboot

9:27 PM

make sure feathernotes is working now

9:27 PM

upload feathernotes via scp

9:27 PM

then in ssh execute

dmesg -c
echo host > /sys/kernel/debug/ci_hdrc.0/role
dmesg

and show the output

Leo Chrom

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i doubt this will work

9:30 PM

why should it?

Szybet

i doubt this will work

Mee too

how is power delivered via usb a?

Szybet

how is power delivered via usb a?

Kobo recives the Power and it's charging

whatever

9:32 PM

do what I said

Yes

9:34 PM

What is the SSH passwd

9:34 PM

Root?

root

9:35 PM

root

9:35 PM

root

Permission denied

9:36 PM

It's not the correct password

9:36 PM

BC I checked the IP and it's correct

are you sure

Yes

what is the prompt looking like

Wait a moment

9:42 PM

Do I need to enable something here?

usbnet^

9:43 PM

?

Oh ok it was disabled

9:44 PM

I turned it off bc usb mass storage doesn't work

9:44 PM

With it enabled

dont care about usbms

9:44 PM

usbnet is superpower

Ik

9:45 PM

If it works

well, try it

Yes

9:46 PM

1

9:49 PM

Connection timed out

9:50 PM

Port 22

ifconfig please

?

run ifconfig on your pc

It's not a valid command

win?

Do you mean ipconfig?

what do you use for ssh

Powershell

what is the ip of your kobo

are you trying to access it via usb or ssh

9:54 PM

or wifi i mean

ssh

9:55 PM

try ping 192.168.2.103

I already tried it

9:56 PM

it basically says request expired

9:57 PM

4 sent 4 lost

can you install iterm user app

tux-linux

can you install iterm user app

9:58 PM

Already here

ifconfig

ifconfig | less

10:01 PM

try ssh root@127.0.0.1 password root

10:01 PM

then do ifconfig usb0 down

10:01 PM

then try sshing from your pc to the kobo

Ok

10:02 PM

What I'm supposed to do here

q

tux-linux

then do ifconfig usb0 down

idk what is going on, i dont have time now but this wont help

its on the same subnet

10:03 PM

.2.x

10:03 PM

so obviously can cause problems

tux-linux

then try sshing from your pc to the kobo

10:06 PM

ok but now you get to something

what do you mean

busybox telnetd -F -l /bin/sh (edited)

10:07 PM

launch this from iterm

10:07 PM

see if you can telnet 192.168.2.103

Still in kobo:~# ?

yes

wow

10:11 PM

this is telnet

yea but thats only telnet

10:11 PM

half bad

And why ssh doesn't want to work

idk

10:12 PM

maybe try restart sshd

Where

in the prompt

10:13 PM

kobo prompt

Ok it has done

try sshing again

and local ssh from kobo works?

Yes

idk

10:15 PM

at least you have telnet for now

to run telnet headless omit -F option

10:15 PM

so you can quit iterm

10:15 PM

it should work

?

10:16 PM

Wait

tux-linux

busybox telnetd -F -l /bin/sh (edited)

.

What is this

because you have a local ssh session from iterm

10:16 PM

it wont suspend the device

Oh

it knows youre doing something

Now what should I do

btw, fun thing: notify-send "hello there"

Leo Chrom

Now what should I do

maybe try sshing via usbnet

10:18 PM

you need to set usb interfaces' ip address to 192.168.2.1 (edited)

10:19 PM

but since you have a bad wifi router that is on the same subnet, you should echo 192.168.3.2 > /boot/flags/USBNET_IP before, then restart usbnet

10:19 PM

then set kobo interface ip address to 192.168.3.1

tux-linux

but since you have a bad wifi router that is on the same subnet, you should echo 192.168.3.2 > /boot/flags/USBNET_IP before, then restart usbnet

Bad?

kobo's ip will be 192.168.3.2

10:19 PM

youwill be 192.168.3.1

Leo Chrom

Bad?

im just saying routers like that annoy me

10:20 PM

nothing against your router

10:20 PM

because they use a random subnet

10:20 PM

why not just .0 or .1

Idk

10:21 PM

try busybox telnetd -l /bin/sh so that you can exit iterm

10:21 PM

and also ctrl-c to terminate current command

I'll try to change the router

well if telnet works, the router,s not the problem

tux-linux

but since you have a bad wifi router that is on the same subnet, you should echo 192.168.3.2 > /boot/flags/USBNET_IP before, then restart usbnet

thats probably better

just use a hotspot ;/

Szybet

just use a hotspot ;/

I'll try both

Do you think that sshing from Linux would change something?

Yes

7:16 AM

Because windows is shit

Hi! I've got a Kobo Touch N905B. Can I assume that the internal uSD card has both the OS as well as well as the books that were loaded onto the device? And also, how big an uSD card will work? Could I put a 64G card in there?

https://inkbox.ddns.net/wiki/index.php?title=Resizing_USB_mass_storage